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Top GOP donors tell party to legalize illegal immigrants
The Washington Times ^ | 7-30-2013

Posted on 07/30/2013 11:11:46 AM PDT by markomalley

Nearly a hundred top Republican officials sent a letter to the House GOP on Tuesday urging lawmakers to pass a bill that legalizes illegal immigrants, arguing that the current system is already allowing them to stay and so it makes sense to register them and bring them into the system.

The donors, led by former Bush administration Cabinet officials Carlos Gutierrez and Spencer Abraham, also said that immigrants are potential Republican voters who can be won over — if the party can be seen as welcoming to immigrants.

“Doing nothing is de facto amnesty. We need to take control of whom we let in our country and we need to make sure everybody plays by the same rules,” the donors said in their letter.

They aimed their pitch at House Republicans, who are trying to figure out a way forward and find themselves trapped between angry rank-and-file voters who say legalizing illegal immigrants amounts to amnesty, and party elites and donors who say the GOP cannot survive nationally without embracing legalization as part of a strategy to win over Hispanic voters.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 113th; aliens; amnesty; carlosgutierrez; gutierrez; illegals; lobbyists; potentialdemocrats; potentialrepublicans; shamnesty; spencerabraham; stupidparty; undocumenteddems; unregistereddems; wronganswer; wrongissue
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To: savedbygrace

Oh, I can agree with you about the action of in-action by the government is “defacto amnesty”. However, I’m vehemently against anyone from the GOPe Regime spouting this tripe as if the inaction was because of conservatives. They only want to keep their power, or they want to appease, but they did not control the forces under the Executive Branch which has the power and responsibility to uphold the law.

This was, is, and always be primarily a new voters plan. There were/are of course, GOPe Regimists who sided with nonenforcement because of greed and some because of pure appeasing gullibility. They are the ones now abetting Obama’s new voters solely because they think they will have a replenishing stable low-IQ work force.

We have Defacto Amnesty now because the current laws on the books are not being enforced one iota. To say we need “new” reform laws is just pure BS. What they are trying to do is negate the real purpose of the existing laws.

So, while not ultimately responsible for the illegals’ invasion, the GOPe Regime certainly did not try to stop the Executive Branch from ignoring the invasion. And they are more than willing to make this an open country so they can get their low-paid workers and golly gee, maybe some [gasp] Hispanic voters and seem ‘nice’ to the media. Nothing but badddddddddddddddd will come from this.


101 posted on 07/31/2013 4:13:36 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Correct. You can have money, or you can have votes, but you can’t have both.


102 posted on 07/31/2013 4:14:17 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: af_vet_rr

The Texas homebuilder wasn’t by chance Ray Ellison, was it?


103 posted on 07/31/2013 4:16:02 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If you don't care about Antonio Santiago, sure as hell don't whine about Trayvon Martin.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I’d sooner see it totally decimated than have the GOPe Regime drive the conservative base away. If they think they can get enough Mexicans to vote Republican because the GOPe gave up its principles to offset millions of conservatives sitting home, they are smoking some pretty powerful sh!t.


104 posted on 07/31/2013 4:17:39 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
In the long run it would be cheaper for the U.S. to correct the problems in Mexico that drive illegal immigration than it will be to absorb 30 million semi-literate, low skilled Mexicans.
105 posted on 07/31/2013 4:34:38 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Sirius Lee
Correct. You can have money, or you can have votes, but you can’t have both.

The monied interests, led by the porkulent mercenary Karl Rove, believe that they can get by with just enough foolish Republican voters to allow them to thumb their noses at any and all conservative dissidents.

Considering the average low-information Republican voter, they're probably right.

106 posted on 07/31/2013 4:47:15 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: markomalley

“The donors, led by former Bush administration Cabinet officials Carlos Gutierrez and Spencer Abraham, also said that immigrants are potential Republican voters who can be won over”

Bullshit.

The corporate donors are running the party now. Its about money and nothing else.


107 posted on 07/31/2013 4:52:15 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: markomalley; Buckeye McFrog
But if we break up and form a third party than the Democrats will win and we will get things like Amnesty!!!!

.........wait what?

108 posted on 07/31/2013 5:17:44 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: txhurl

Just think of everything you buy everyday and it and its finished product....

&&&
[[ ... Sigh ...]]


109 posted on 07/31/2013 6:03:06 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Let me hear what God the LORD will speak. -Ps85)
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To: Jane Long

I am not familiar with Melaleuca, but I have plunked down quite a bit with Overstock over the years. Another one bites the dust.

Not that my purchases amount to “quite a bit” in the big picture, but I will definitely follow my conscience and boycott them.


110 posted on 07/31/2013 6:05:12 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Let me hear what God the LORD will speak. -Ps85)
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To: omega4412

And “Somebody Else Pays”.


111 posted on 07/31/2013 7:17:37 AM PDT by Huskerfan44 (Huskerfan44)
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To: jimbo123

GOP-e bump for later........


112 posted on 07/31/2013 7:26:18 AM PDT by indthkr
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To: markomalley

It’s because the greedy biz owners are paying these corrupt politicians off...Bankrolling their campaigns to keep that dirt cheap labor coming..


113 posted on 07/31/2013 7:42:06 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: markomalley

The LOVE of money is the root of all evil.


114 posted on 07/31/2013 8:01:02 AM PDT by RginTN
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115 posted on 07/31/2013 8:37:50 AM PDT by RedMDer (When immigrants cannot or will not assimilate, its really just an invasion. Throw them out!)
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To: iacovatx
The big donors don’t control a lot of votes. Will those big donors donate enough money to gather not only a majority of illegals’ votes but the votes lost due to the lowering of economic opportunities and violation of rule-of-law that would drive away any sane conservative?

You're right in that most "legalized" illegals will vote for Democrats no matter how much liberal Republicans pander to them. The Democrats have been playing this game longer and better than the GOP, and neither blacks nor hispanics will forget it.

The trouble is, no matter how many times the GOP betrays conservatives and runs lackluster (or worse) candidates, threats among rightwing voters to defect to a third party never materialize. Every four years, the refrain from the GOP is "where else are you going to go?" or "do you really want the Democrat to win," and conservatives run back to the GOP plantation with their tail between their legs.

Maybe this needs to change. If having a few more liberal democrats as POTUS is what it takes to either get the GOP's act in order or successfully launch a third party, so be it. It isn't as though the last crop of Republicans is much better than their "opponents."

116 posted on 07/31/2013 9:14:36 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: jimbo123

ping


117 posted on 07/31/2013 9:50:11 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: COBOL2Java

Correct.


118 posted on 07/31/2013 10:00:21 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: Dante3

Very True...


119 posted on 07/31/2013 11:02:12 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Ben Carson/Rand Paul or Sara/Nikki in 2016)
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To: COBOL2Java

” The monied interests, led by the porkulent mercenary Karl Rove, “

Rove is buying Republicans every week now.


120 posted on 07/31/2013 11:27:46 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

They’re pressing hard for this. All the harder we’ll need to work to stop it. We stopped it the last time it came up. We CAN do it again.


121 posted on 07/31/2013 2:38:25 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: ScottinVA
The Texas homebuilder wasn’t by chance Ray Ellison, was it?

Bob "No Relation" Perry. Passed away not long ago.
122 posted on 07/31/2013 2:59:58 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Gaffer

We agree 100%.


123 posted on 07/31/2013 3:10:19 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: rockinqsranch

The big money is amoral and has no loyalty to anything but themselves. Always been the case, always will be.

Retarded elected officials that think they are buying the loyalty of the big money with these sorts of sell outs are just that - retarded. As well as being lying, amoral bastards themselves. Most members of congress are bought and sold. If not before election, certainly shortly thereafter.

They rationalize their traitorous actions as being “realistic” and “pragmatic” Nothing but whores that tell us they love us every two years.


124 posted on 07/31/2013 7:10:00 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: markomalley

Brings it all into focus it’s all about cheap labor.


125 posted on 07/31/2013 7:33:57 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: iacovatx

“Perhaps those big donors are mostly Democrats and this article overlooks that?”

Either Democrats or RINOs who wish to be “socially acceptable” with the Manhattan, Hollywood and Washington cocktail party crowd more than they support the good of the nation as a whole.


126 posted on 08/01/2013 5:29:18 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: af_vet_rr
Bob "No Relation" Perry. Passed away not long ago.

Ah... OK.

When I was in San Antonio in 1984-88, the Ray Ellison Co., an unscrupulous homebuilder, used illegal help to slap up cheap (and I mean REALLY cheap, low quality) homes, then offered some wildly "creative" financing, i.e., graduated payment ARMs starting at 6% in an era when the going 30-year fixed rate was around 13.5%. Ray Ellison "developed" neighborhood after neighborhood, and when ready to move to the next spot of empty real estate, sold off the remaining unsold inventory to Epic Realty, who then dumped them onto the Section 8 rental market. All those ingredients totalled up for gross failure of the housing market in the mid-1980s for that area... It was a friggin' mess.

127 posted on 08/01/2013 6:31:56 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If you don't care about Antonio Santiago, sure as hell don't whine about Trayvon Martin.)
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To: LtKerst
Romney would have knifed us in the Back......

This is the simple truth that a lot of the Romney -voters/-apologists miss out on.
He was a terrible candidate, and there seriously are ways that he could be a worse president than Obama:
-- Imagine how much less show [of anything sorta like opposition] the Republicans would be putting up if they had "their guy" in.
-- Imagine if he had issued those ACA exemptions to the states… and how revocation could be used to extort them.

128 posted on 08/01/2013 6:36:57 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Graewoulf
Most State Politicians cower when our sorry NINE SUPREMES dictate that the State has no authority to protect itself from illegal alien invaders.

No kidding; the lacking of real replies I got sending out letters detailing how the States can keep amnesty from passing to 48 states.

129 posted on 08/01/2013 6:47:08 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: markomalley
So if we have a problem with gangs breaking and entering houses in some city, we should just arrest them, then give them all a blanket pardon, since they already did the crime anyways?
130 posted on 08/01/2013 9:35:10 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: markomalley

I would rather the Republicans legalize marijuana than provide citizenship for illegal aliens.


131 posted on 08/01/2013 3:02:14 PM PDT by magellan
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To: henkster
who brought us two Bushes, Dole, McCain and Romney?

Yes, and they have a new refrain: Let's say it together, "It's Jebbie's turn!"

132 posted on 08/01/2013 8:52:46 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Mitt and the grand poo-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!")
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To: Brad from Tennessee

If it’s rational, then the Republican primary voters aren’t interested. Need proof: Lindsey Graham and John McPain but so many, many more too


133 posted on 08/01/2013 8:55:32 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Mitt and the grand poo-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!")
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To: markomalley

How about a list of names and companies that are supporting legalizing the illegals.


134 posted on 08/01/2013 9:07:34 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Kick them out. It works.


135 posted on 08/01/2013 10:28:18 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: ScottinVA
When I was in San Antonio in 1984-88, the Ray Ellison Co., an unscrupulous homebuilder, used illegal help to slap up cheap (and I mean REALLY cheap, low quality) homes, then offered some wildly "creative" financing, i.e., graduated payment ARMs starting at 6% in an era when the going 30-year fixed rate was around 13.5%. Ray Ellison "developed" neighborhood after neighborhood, and when ready to move to the next spot of empty real estate, sold off the remaining unsold inventory to Epic Realty, who then dumped them onto the Section 8 rental market. All those ingredients totalled up for gross failure of the housing market in the mid-1980s for that area... It was a friggin' mess.

Bob Perry and Charles Butt (grocer) were the two largest/richest donors to Republicans and Democrats in Texas, both legislature and state offices, for quite a while, and together they worked to kill off legislation that was seen as anti-illegal immigrant. Very disconcerting how much influence they had over the Governor and the legislature, but money talks and all that.
136 posted on 08/02/2013 1:50:17 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: skeeter

“Through everything that has happened since Reagan left Washington - the surrendering, the cowardice, all the accommodations made to the media & the left - I am still a registered Republican.

“This is THE issue for me.

“If the GOP takes this step then I am gone, gone, GONE. I suspect I am not alone.”

You’re not alone.


137 posted on 08/04/2013 10:43:13 PM PDT by Pelham (Deportation is the law. When it's not enforced you get California)
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To: henkster
Are these the same “big donors” who brought us two Bushes, Dole, McCain and Romney?

LOL!

138 posted on 08/05/2013 11:12:39 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: txhurl

I heard the KOCH brothers were part of this faction


139 posted on 08/07/2013 8:23:17 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: freedomfiter2

Post 40 has the list of the traitors


140 posted on 08/07/2013 8:35:40 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

Post 40


141 posted on 08/07/2013 8:38:19 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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