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Ultra-Orthodox protesters shatter bus windows after female passenger refuses to sit in back
Haaretz ^ | July 31, 2013 | Nir Hasson

Posted on 08/01/2013 11:44:00 AM PDT by LonelyCon

Two buses were stoned by a group of Haredim in Beit Shemesh on Wednesday after the police arrested a man and woman who had asked a female passenger to move to the back of the bus.

The incident began on a No. 497 bus from Beit Shemesh to Bnei Brak, which is run as a mehadrin line on which men and women sit separately. Under a ruling by the High Court of Justice in 2011, such seating is strictly voluntary.

According to passengers on the bus, one of the female passengers asked a woman who was sitting at the front of the bus to move to the rear. While the seated woman did not object, the driver - who heard the conversation - summoned police, who detained the woman who had made the request and her husband, and the bus continued on its way.

When news of the incident spread, groups of ultra-Orthodox youth stoned two local buses. Moshe Schuman was a passenger on one of them, the No. 417 from Ramat Beit Shemesh to Jerusalem.

“The bus was full because of the vacation,” Schuman said. “When the driver stopped at a stop, four people in Haredi dress blocked the bus’ path and began to bang on the windows with a hammer. The passengers got upset, there were people there with babies. The driver tried to flee the scene but he couldn’t because they were blocking the bus’ path. Only after they’d smashed all the windows and ran away was the driver able to drive to a safe spot.”

The confrontations between ultra-Orthodox and non-Haredi residents of Beit Shemesh on issues of modesty and exclusion of women has made the headlines in the past few years, ever since Haredi extremists began spitting at and harassing religious girls...

(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Israel
KEYWORDS: bus; israel; orthodox
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1 posted on 08/01/2013 11:44:00 AM PDT by LonelyCon
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To: LonelyCon

Morons. Put these idiots in a pen with an equal number of islamowhacks and watch the fireworks.


2 posted on 08/01/2013 11:48:46 AM PDT by soycd
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To: LonelyCon

Tell me again, what Religion teaches that ???? What political system ? Oh, never mind. I’ll go to the NOW web site. They certainly will have a blog on it.


3 posted on 08/01/2013 11:51:08 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: LonelyCon

Haredi dress...Jewish burqas

http://kenyanjustice.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-burqa-but-not-from-our-region-and.html


4 posted on 08/01/2013 11:51:58 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: LonelyCon

I’m just glad it wasn’t the Methodists or the Mormons again.


5 posted on 08/01/2013 11:54:17 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: LonelyCon

My people perish for a lack of knowledge.

Hosea 4:6


6 posted on 08/01/2013 11:58:36 AM PDT by freedomson (Tagline comment removed by moderator)
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To: soycd
Morons. Put these idiots in a pen with an equal number of islamowhacks and watch the fireworks.

How dare G-d tell people what to do! [/sarcasm]

7 posted on 08/01/2013 12:01:59 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: LonelyCon

Tough with women but won’t serve in the Israeli army.


8 posted on 08/01/2013 12:04:18 PM PDT by Socon-Econ
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Judaism has this problem I’ve found, that the ultra-orthodox are just following Jewish law as they’re commanded to do. Tough stuff.


9 posted on 08/01/2013 12:10:38 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Zionist Conspirator

So what commandment makes them think that women must sit in the back of the bus?


10 posted on 08/01/2013 1:09:34 PM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be what you might have been.)
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To: Sender

A WOMAN asked her to move to the back of the bus


11 posted on 08/01/2013 1:11:12 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Viennacon

Not too tough to stop teaching the nonsense (women to the back of the bus etc) to young and impressionable minds. It’s similar to the muzzy scum teaching their young to hate and kill non-believers. Just not quite as violent.


12 posted on 08/01/2013 1:14:58 PM PDT by soycd
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To: LonelyCon
I found a good article about the subject, but now I am more confused than ever, for now I have to wrestle with the thorny problem of a man being prohibited to hear a woman sing.

Gender Segregation on Buses is Not Jewish Law

13 posted on 08/01/2013 1:19:09 PM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be what you might have been.)
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To: GeronL

I saw that it was a woman, but was just curious as to whether the idea of separation was to avoid impure thoughts, or whether it was a male superiority thing.


14 posted on 08/01/2013 1:24:40 PM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be what you might have been.)
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To: Sender

Yes, of course. It just never crossed my mind that she might be a male chauvinist pig. Silly me. The other choice is a moral imperative for them, which makes more sense.


15 posted on 08/01/2013 1:38:35 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: LonelyCon

Dont Worry, Americans!

You’re tax dollars will go to hastily replace those broken windows!


16 posted on 08/01/2013 1:44:59 PM PDT by In Another Time... (..In another place...)
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To: Sender

I’m not amazingly acquainted with how rabbis interpret these gender constraints, but women and men did attend separate parts of synagogues in ancient Israel.


17 posted on 08/01/2013 3:01:54 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: soycd

What I was pointing out was that this may simply be in keeping with Jewish law, under the Mosaic Covenant, rather than a random act of violence. And yes, Muslims teaching Jihad is in keeping with their law.

As a Christian, I find these things very unnecessary, peculiar, and morally wrong. However, I recognize that this is my perspective from a Christian viewpoint. How we live is very much defined by our apprehension of our origin, morality, and purpose.


18 posted on 08/01/2013 3:10:51 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: LonelyCon

Look at how far our American culture has fallen.


19 posted on 08/01/2013 3:12:23 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Viennacon

I certainly agree that it is a product of teaching. Morality and purpose have always been subjective. Perhaps there was a reason for women to sit at the back of the bus thousands of years ago when there were no modern buses. I can fathom no reason for it now and none can justify it now either. Realistic traditions are acceptable and subjugation of others without cause is intolerable.


20 posted on 08/01/2013 3:38:14 PM PDT by soycd
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