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Woman Falls 17 Stories to Her Death; AP Implies She Deserved It
Slate ^ | Aug. 2, 2013 | L.V. Anderson

Posted on 08/02/2013 3:44:57 PM PDT by grundle

Every urbanite’s worst nightmare came true for one New Yorker this week: Jennifer Rosoff, leaning against the railing on the balcony of her Upper East Side apartment, suddenly fell 17 stories to her death after the railing gave way. This is obviously horrifying and tragic. Rosoff was a media executive with stints at The New Yorker and Cosmopolitan on her resume. It’s outrageous that the owners of her building were so remiss in their balcony inspection duties. But if you skimmed the beginning of the Associated Press’s account of Rosoff’s accidental death, you wouldn’t get much information about Rosoff’s promising career or about the structural inadequacies of her balcony. Here are the first two paragraphs of the AP’s article about Rosoff:

"A 35-year-old media executive on a first date plunged to her death Thursday after the railing on her 17th-floor New York City balcony gave way, police said."

"Jennifer Rosoff went outside for a cigarette around 12:50 a.m. when she either sat on the railing or leaned on it. Her date told her that she probably shouldn't do it, and then moments later, she apparently fell backward and landed on construction scaffolding at the first floor, authorities said. Police spoke to the man and no foul play was suspected."

Let’s break this down. According to the AP, the crucial facts you need to know about Rosoff right off the bat are that:

1. She was 35 and single.

2. She was a smoker.

3. She invited a man back to her apartment late at night on a first date.

4. The man warned her not to lean against the balcony, but she did it anyway.

The implication being that this smoking slut totally had it coming...

(Excerpt) Read more at slate.com ...


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To: elcid1970

I’ve never been much of a ladies man. But in single days, I have been inside a number of dates apartments on a first or second date, but never had all these other things happen. It’s presumptuous that she must have been a slut to have a man in her apartment. How do people make these quantum leaps in reasoning????


51 posted on 08/02/2013 4:46:03 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

That’s the conclusion hubby and I came to as well.

Not saying she deserved it, but a close examination of the railing should have prompted a quick exit back indoors for that sort of activity.

Gravity wins every single time.


52 posted on 08/02/2013 4:48:01 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Tea Party Terrorist; Joe 6-pack
No one’s farting, bo, perfume lingers for hours or days, nor can you smell it from across the room.

WRONG

Those other smells don’t permeate someone else’s clothing either.

WRONG

There’s no comparison.

Wrong again.

Wow, you sure are batting a thousand in the wrong column.

53 posted on 08/02/2013 4:48:28 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

And then there’s the fact that the only side of this we’re getting is the man’s.

What if he’s a psychopath who did it on purpose?


54 posted on 08/02/2013 4:50:33 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Wuli

The story was going for human interest, but either definition 2A or 3 in the MR pertained in this case.


55 posted on 08/02/2013 4:54:32 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: MNDude

Yes, someone sure did.

Near the top as I recall, climbed over the handrail to take a picture of her girlfriends that were with her. Her back was to the river, she took one more step backwards on the wet, slippery rocks, slipped, and fell a long ways.

Really sad, just a young, innocent girl who made a foolish error in judgment.


56 posted on 08/02/2013 4:54:59 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (When America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: GeronL

Based on the story, my guess is the building owner is part of the ruling class, and the reporting is supplying required cover.


57 posted on 08/02/2013 4:57:26 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: MNDude

Did you drive Gold Camp Road? Very pretty. That’s where the ice flow incident took place.

There has been at least one in Garden of Gods too.

Or the guy who decided to go off-road up near Cripple Creek. An open vertical mineshaft took him and his truck down 5 or 600 feet. It took a long time to find him, as ‘the earth simply swallowed him up’.

Some things are usually left out of the brochures.


58 posted on 08/02/2013 5:02:11 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (When America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: reformedliberal

Sure, if it’s a private house and the owners don’t mind the putrid smell of stale cigarette smoke pervading and lowering the value of the property, that’s fine.

If it is a public facility or when where employees would be exposed to the smoke, not so much.


59 posted on 08/02/2013 5:05:08 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Black Agnes

That’s why I think the reporter did a good job. She exposed possibly relevant facts, such as yes, this man wasn’t well known to her, but apparently her being out on the balcony at that hour was explained by her having a smoke. She also gave something of the man’s side of the story with his report that he had warned her away from the railing.

I’d expect a toxology report will reveal whether alcohol was impeding her judgment.


60 posted on 08/02/2013 5:08:48 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Then, please explain how the date avoided falling too.

Regardless, balcony railings are supposed to keep people from falling — including people a lot heavier than this woman.


61 posted on 08/02/2013 5:13:01 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: grundle

Bloomberg and the National Cancer Society will count it as a smoking caused death.


62 posted on 08/02/2013 5:13:20 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The only growth industries left under Progressives are government and poverty.)
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To: Black Agnes

I know this building.

Take a look at the pic and the bent metal rails, which do indeed look odd there:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2383034/Jennifer-Rosoff-Neighbors-reveal-horrified-cries-man-date-plunged-17-floors-death-date.html


63 posted on 08/02/2013 5:14:03 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: grundle

What the reporter didn’t get quite right is that the building is in Midtown East, not on the Upper East Side.


64 posted on 08/02/2013 5:16:14 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker; reformedliberal
Sure, if it’s a private house and the owners don’t mind the putrid smell of stale cigarette smoke pervading and lowering the value of the property, that’s fine.

WOW - just wow. Sanctimonious much?

If it is a public facility or when where employees would be exposed to the smoke, not so much.

HUH?

Other than government buildings, no one is forced to enter any place, and even then, government employees aren't forced to work there..............

65 posted on 08/02/2013 5:16:34 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: grundle; a fool in paradise

Smoking kills.

(Rent controlled apartment available in new York City.)


66 posted on 08/02/2013 5:17:06 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: grundle
The implication being that this smoking slut totally had it coming...

That's the beauty of the internet, everyone can be an analyst........

67 posted on 08/02/2013 5:17:34 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (')
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To: 9YearLurker
Perhaps you'd be willing to educate me--I've been in New York once, 53 years ago.

Do such references relate strictly to Manhattan?

Thanks in advance.

68 posted on 08/02/2013 5:19:47 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: grundle

She is a victim of the times.

Well off by dint of her positions (Cosmopolitan and other venues) she traded her ability for position and recompense. She had both in her high-rise apartment in the sky. Unfortunately, the order of the day is economy over empirical integrity.

Modern building technology utilizes cheaper and poorer materials more and more to ever greater standards until less and less is required of more and the pyramid or technological failure comes into play. At the apex of performance the zenith of failure is certain to occur.

She might have done better to reconsider the ephemeral nature of life and the eternal nature of her soul. Now, a cheap date and a drink on the edge of eternity have cost her the very soul she sought to satisfy.

Just my $0.02.


69 posted on 08/02/2013 5:20:31 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (You hear it here first.)
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To: Gabz

For better or worse, we’ve got a slew of workplace health requirements. Local overnment no smoking rules are considered to be in that category.


70 posted on 08/02/2013 5:20:56 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

*government*


71 posted on 08/02/2013 5:21:13 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Hebrews 11:6

What references?


72 posted on 08/02/2013 5:22:21 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: grundle

I don’t know, I read that story and I just didn’t read that much into it.

May the unfortunate woman RIP, and may her dinner companion recover from such a truly awful experience.


73 posted on 08/02/2013 5:22:56 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: beaversmom; bravo whiskey
We were halfway up and stopped at an overlook....

I saw the tiny ants way down below and realized they were cars....

...I told my husband to leave me there and pick me up on the way down, I wasn't going any higher.(he wouldn't).....I went on but it was truly terrifying.

74 posted on 08/02/2013 5:25:55 PM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: utahagen
but they scare the bejesus out of me.

At a convention in Chicago years ago, there was an upscale reception at the bar atop the Sears Tower in Chicago....there was a piano bar set up right at a corner, fully windowed area -- and my boss decided to do the Karaoke thing right there ----- beckoning me to come closer to the "entertainment area".

After about four double-doubles, I finally ventured over; thank goodness it wasn't windy, and the 99th floor wasn't wiggling.

75 posted on 08/02/2013 5:27:51 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Carlos Danger for mayor....NYC deserves him)
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To: 9YearLurker

Interesting pic.

I just assumed the railing broke away from the building structure, but that bent section looks quite robust and surely took significant force to yield it.


76 posted on 08/02/2013 5:29:22 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: grundle; a fool in paradise
she insisted she 'did it all the time'

If I had been that date, I would of said "Famous last words."

"Aaah, oops!"

77 posted on 08/02/2013 5:33:18 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I still smoke inside. It's my house.

Wifey and I - both lifelong smokers - did that until a few years ago, when we discovered "Vaping" (E-cigs).

A few months ago, she had a medical procedure which required her to lie still for most of the day, so it was a hoot to 'vape' right in her curtained cubicle for the entire period - and nobody came close to popping wise.

FReepmail me if you want details on Vapor 4 Life....the switch was a snap for both of us, with no looking back.

78 posted on 08/02/2013 5:33:41 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Carlos Danger for mayor....NYC deserves him)
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To: grundle

Smoking? So XIXth century!


79 posted on 08/02/2013 5:34:48 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: ErnBatavia

But Lake Michgan looks awesome from up there in summer, so aqua blue.


80 posted on 08/02/2013 5:36:42 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: ErnBatavia

Thanks, but no. I grow my own tobacco.

/johnny


81 posted on 08/02/2013 5:40:50 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: elcid1970
The comments on the Slate article site are vicious. No pity, she should have known the dangers, too bad for her.

It always infuriates me to see the heartlessness of some. We all make innocent but stupid mistakes, especially when we are young, and it is by the grace of God that we usually survive them unharmed. The guffawing over "Darwin Awards" and "hold muh beer" falls into the same category. Death and suffering are fit objects of ridicule, especially if they occur to someone who is in an unfavored race, ethnic group, or nationality, or someone occupying a low rung on the socioeconomic ladder.

I'm always reminded of this quote from Mel Brooks:

Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall into an open sewer and die.

82 posted on 08/02/2013 5:41:21 PM PDT by Route797
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To: grundle
was a media executive with stints at The New Yorker and Cosmopolitan on her resume.

May she happened by some "inconvenient truths" - and maybe she didn't have a car to rig

83 posted on 08/02/2013 5:43:47 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: 9YearLurker

No they’re not. They are the product of over zealous control freaks

If they were a work place health issue there would be no seafood or peanut industry or any place permitted to serve either because of adverse, and possibly deadly, reactions by workers or patrons.


84 posted on 08/02/2013 5:46:34 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Then, please explain how the date avoided falling too.

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Simple. She's facing the railing and bent over toward it. She either has a grasp of the railing with her hands or the railing is up under her armpits with her chest pressed against it and elbows resting on it. In either event she has her weight against it and pushing outward. The guy is standing behind her on the balcony. Though he's nailing her hard from behind, all of his weight is centered on the balcony. Then, during a hard thrust forcing the women to press against the railing, the railing gives. She plummets seventeen floors. He's left standing there with an erection. You act like you've never done this before.

85 posted on 08/02/2013 5:57:28 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: Gabz

Not a legitimate comparison at all.


86 posted on 08/02/2013 5:57:57 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: nascarnation

Maybe, but even Laz doesn’t hit corpses...you’re one sick puppy.


87 posted on 08/02/2013 5:58:48 PM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: bigfootbob

Well she was not guilty for 16.8 floors anyway....


88 posted on 08/02/2013 6:02:00 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: nascarnation

LOL! Probably right.


89 posted on 08/02/2013 6:03:24 PM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: ansel12
I read that AP story, and while I didn’t linger to analyze it, I did catch the strange accusatory tone of the writing, it was as though they didn’t like her.

I'm guessing it's because the AP is full of beta males who have no hope of even having lunch with her, much less being invited up to her apartment. See #12.

90 posted on 08/02/2013 6:06:09 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I don't always vote, but when I do, I SURE AS HELL DON'T VOTE DEMOCRAT!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

LOL! Take care of yourself, Swampie. I hope you’re getting better every day. God bless!


91 posted on 08/02/2013 6:06:38 PM PDT by rabidralph (Gray State Movie)
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To: SES1066

I remember a series of pictures in Life Magazine, late ‘60s or early ‘70s, of a woman falling from the balcony or the fire escape of her apartment building. Still a frightening thought.


92 posted on 08/02/2013 6:09:09 PM PDT by rabidralph (Gray State Movie)
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To: 9YearLurker

In what way?


93 posted on 08/02/2013 6:16:34 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: 9YearLurker

I’m not sure those rails, which have presumably been leaned on before, would just BEND like that out of nowhere. I can see a weld failure and break. But not BENT like that.

I became suspicious of the circumstances when I saw the bend. Maybe she turned him down for sex on the balcony, there was a struggle whereupon the rail bent and she fell over.

I lived in that metro area for a while. I’ve been on many of those types of rail edged balconies. I’ve never seen one that I might suspect would BEND if you pushed on it. Break from weld/metal failure, sure, but not bend.

My spidey sense is tingling.


94 posted on 08/02/2013 6:17:39 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Gabz

People who are allergic to seafood can simply not eat it. Seafood is not harmful to the public at large. Someone who was deathly allergic to peanuts could choose not to work at a Thai restaurant, for example.


95 posted on 08/02/2013 6:26:27 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Gabz

I’m pretty social, I spend a lot of time around a lot of people. I cannot remember the last time any of their farts, perfume or BO was a problem. It never stuck to my clothes either. On the other hand, I smell cigarette smoke very often. It’s safe to say I have smelled cigarette smoke a thousand times before the last time I smelled any of the other odors you describe.

Do you think people object to cigarette smoke just because they are jerks or busybodies? Or could it be possible that it really, truly is an obnoxious odor?


96 posted on 08/02/2013 6:32:54 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Those who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: 9YearLurker
"If it is a public facility or when where employees would be exposed to the smoke, not so much."

You sound like the muslim supermarket employees who get hired, then bitch about the bacon the store sells. A private employer should have the right to have a smoke friendly business if he/she chooses. Nobody is holding a gun to the head of people to make them work there.

97 posted on 08/02/2013 6:49:37 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: grundle

Smoking kills


98 posted on 08/02/2013 6:49:45 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: 9YearLurker
People who are allergic to seafood can simply not eat it.

I can not be in the same place as raw shrimp - I can not go into most local seafood markets because they keep the shrimp on ice, but in the open not in a glass case.

Seafood is not harmful to the public at large.

It is for some people.

Someone who was deathly allergic to peanuts could choose not to work at a Thai restaurant, for example.

Those afraid of tobacco smoke can simply choose not to work in an establishment that permits smoking, for example.

99 posted on 08/02/2013 6:51:46 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

There was a time in this country when people were allowed to smoke indoors.

#########

Yes and I recall watching the movie “Inferno” in a theatre with smokers! Good times and it added reality to the show.

I worked in the operating room and we smoked at the desk by the patient holding area. Good times. Lots of patients enjoyed the smell, too.


100 posted on 08/02/2013 7:04:46 PM PDT by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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