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“We Have Become a Nation of Hamburger Flippers”: Dan Alpert Breaks Down the Jobs Report
The Daily Ticker ^ | August 2,2013 | Aaron Task

Posted on 08/02/2013 6:17:16 PM PDT by Hojczyk

At 162,000, the July jobs report fell short of expectations and well shy of “whisper” numbers for payroll figures above 200,000. In addition, job tallies were revised down for May and June and average hourly earnings fell 0.1% in July, the first decline since October.

The data disappointed Wall Street economists but are consistent with the trends Dan Alpert, managing partner at Westwood Capital, cited in a recent report: “The fact is that the U.S. employment situation is more of a wounded beast than a bull,” he writes.

According to Alpert’s analysis, 69% of the jobs created in the second quarter – and 57% in the first half of 2013 – were in the three lowest-paying sectors of the economy: retail trade, administrative and waste services, and leisure and hospitality. These jobs, which account for 33% of all private sector jobs, pay an average of $15.80 per hour.

“What you’re seeing is now the spreading of low wage growth,” he says, noting those trends continued in Friday's July jobs report. “Really we have become a nation of hamburger flippers, Wal-Mart sales associates, barmaids, checkout people and other people working at very low wages.”

The growth of low-wage jobs helps explain why the majority of Americans continue to believe the economy is in recession, despite a falling unemployment rate – now down to a four-year low of 7.4% – a record-setting stock market rally and a rebound in the housing market.

Taking it a step further, Alpert says the low-wage trend also explains why GDP growth remains so weak despite monthly average private sector job growth of nearly 200,000 in the past year.

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: mcjobs; obamanomics

1 posted on 08/02/2013 6:17:16 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/become-nation-hamburger-flippers-dan-alpert-breaks-down-145831220.html


2 posted on 08/02/2013 6:17:41 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

He used to play a mean trumpet.


3 posted on 08/02/2013 6:18:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He used to play a mean trumpet.

Indeed. He smoked herb!

4 posted on 08/02/2013 6:22:58 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2013/08/02/stinking-jobs-report-11-5-million-still-unemployed-part-time-jobs-77-of-jobs-created-in-2013/

Correct. We are becoming Russia under Stalin,


5 posted on 08/02/2013 6:23:08 PM PDT by whitedog57
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To: Hojczyk

And worse, in Obamaville, burger flippers can’t work more than 29 hrs. a week so they aren’t an insurance drag on their employer. They will be much poorer burger flippers than ever.


6 posted on 08/02/2013 6:23:47 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Hojczyk

At this rate, we can compete successfully with China.


7 posted on 08/02/2013 6:23:48 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.))
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To: Hojczyk

8 posted on 08/02/2013 6:25:45 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sadly, the members of The Tijuana Brass never made it beyond the border fence and are still awaiting amnesty it seems.

9 posted on 08/02/2013 6:27:05 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vltC-O7PDYQ


10 posted on 08/02/2013 6:31:54 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Hojczyk

Too bad the GOP can’t be bothered to carpet bomb the media with these facts while King Barry is camped on Martha’s Vinyard. The optics are terrible and the kenyan’s second term agenda would be knee capped.


11 posted on 08/02/2013 6:32:51 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Hojczyk; All
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12 posted on 08/02/2013 6:34:48 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: whitedog57

Five scary charts and facts about who’s working and not working in this economy
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/08/02/five-scary-charts-and-facts-about-whos-working-and-not-working-in-this-economy/


13 posted on 08/02/2013 6:34:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: Hojczyk

Back when Bush was POTUS, Pelosi and the Dems snarked at him for creating “McJobs”

That’s a term the MSM put in storage in Jan 2009.


14 posted on 08/02/2013 6:39:14 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: whitedog57
Correct. We are becoming Russia under Stalin,

Yep. The Soviets may have had "100% employment" but this was only because they had people "employed" to stand in front of a public restroom and sell toilet paper to those who needed it.

Actually, they still have people employed in such fields.

15 posted on 08/02/2013 6:45:26 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: nascarnation

Back when Bush was POTUS, Pelosi and the Dems snarked at him for creating “McJobs”

That’s a term the MSM put in storage in Jan 2009.

The problem is the beltway GOP has also. All they need to do is just run clips of Reid & Pelosi slamming W. for 300,000 jobs created. Too much work I guess.


16 posted on 08/02/2013 6:45:40 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Hojczyk

Thank you Walmart and all the people that shop there. Keep supporting those low wage, minimum work hour companies and there are less and less people that can afford to spend at your place of business.

Insanity that conservatives seem not to understand this basic principal, instead hanging on to the idea a company like Walmart should be free.


17 posted on 08/02/2013 6:47:53 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He used to play a mean trumpet.

Interesting.

His best song was "Work Song".

Now he analyses work reports.

18 posted on 08/02/2013 6:48:49 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Hojczyk

We’re not a nation of “hamburger flippers”—we’re a nation of hamburger flippers and coffee pourers! Hooray for us!

While we’re on the topic....why do hamburger flippers get maligned while coffee pourers hold an esteemed position in society? For starters, a coffee pourer can easily be replaced by a vending machine. It’s much easier to make and pour your own coffee than it is to make your own burger. So where do coffee pourers get their holier-than-thou ‘tude?

I think it started when the art fags decided that consuming large quantities of coffee was healthier than consuming meat and they all started hanging out in coffee shops. Some of them decided to dedicate their lives to their passion after graduating college with a liberal arts degree. With no job skills and an ego the size of Detroit, they dubbed themselves “baristas” to counter the “loser” image. Yeah, that’s probably it.


19 posted on 08/02/2013 7:07:09 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: Hojczyk

Hamburger flipping is a manufacturing job.

The more hamburger flippers there are, the more hamburgers there are to choose from.

Imagine a world without hamburger flippers. We’d all have to eat at Der Weinerschnitzel.


20 posted on 08/02/2013 7:07:28 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: whitedog57

Russia made a 180 turn from Stalin days. They now have a very reasonable rate flat income tax!

China has also jumped on the capitalism bandwagon, getting away from Mao’s Great Leap Forward. China now has one million (US $$) millionaires, where as during Mao’s China had 13.

But good ole USA elects a community organizer from Chicago political background who wants to create trickle up poverty with his Obamacare and redistribute the wealth dogma.


21 posted on 08/02/2013 7:16:56 PM PDT by entropy12 (Even tho Obama is now a lame duck, with 2014 House majority, he will be a dangerously socialist!)
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To: Hojczyk

But let’s not forget the promising career in pizza delivery.


22 posted on 08/02/2013 7:30:50 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: Hojczyk

Bump


23 posted on 08/02/2013 7:32:04 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Hojczyk

All B0 has to do now is raise the minimum wage to $15/hr (for starters).


24 posted on 08/02/2013 7:38:56 PM PDT by Zuse
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To: All

I remember when we were talking about full employment back in 2005/2006 and the dummocrats were saying this was the worst economy since the great depression and all Bush created were McJobs and the media was agreeing even though the numbers didn’t support it..
now, we are now in the worst economy since the Great Depression and all Obama has created are McJobs and the numbers actually support it and what is the media saying...


25 posted on 08/02/2013 7:45:31 PM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Hojczyk

This is because the stuff American’s should be making is being made in China. Americans would work factory jobs, many folks these would consider these ideal jobs.


26 posted on 08/02/2013 7:45:37 PM PDT by This I Wonder32460
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To: Hojczyk

But many of them have Bachelors and Masters Degrees which they can contemplate as they flip burgers and wait tables. And the thousands of dollars in student loans, well if they live in the family basement for 20 years they should be done paying the student loans if they are careful. Oh, and be sure to keep supporting those Progressives, you know, social and economic justice for all.


27 posted on 08/02/2013 7:56:36 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The only growth industries left under Progressives are government and poverty.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Bump.

America needs real jobs.

Now.


28 posted on 08/02/2013 7:58:52 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: This I Wonder32460

Yea, globalism has about run its course.


29 posted on 08/02/2013 8:05:39 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: randog

I have never had a Starbucks coffee, because what it represents is inherently degenerate, and almost perfectly represents what had gone way wrong in the US over the last 50 years. If you have some kind of insane desire to spend $4.50 for a freaking cup of coffee, buy a very good $1.00 coffee from McDonalds or Dunkin’ Doughnuts, and give $3.50 to a charity that actually does some good. I guarantee that cup of coffee will taste just great.

When I chose my screen name MANY, MANY years ago, I felt the same way about degenerate yuppie crap. At least yuppies could actually afford to be wasteful.


30 posted on 08/02/2013 8:27:14 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: The Antiyuppie

Best comment ever about Starbucks:

“Why pay $3.50 to drink what tastes like burned s***?”

Whoever called baristas `art fags’ hit a home run too.


31 posted on 08/02/2013 9:35:03 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Stop shopping at Walmart. We are exporting all our jobs and their low wages don’t leave their workers any money to circulate in the local economy.


32 posted on 08/02/2013 10:20:24 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: 353FMG

“But let’s not forget the promising career in pizza delivery.”

Those are jobs from the “before-times”; I’ve been in a few pizzerias where the drivers are all lounging around. The discretionary dollars are gone, and when we rarely do order pizza anymore I simply drive to pick it up.

Like most Americans, I have more time than money.


33 posted on 08/03/2013 3:25:05 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: entropy12

Russia made a 180 turn from Stalin days. They now have a very reasonable rate flat income tax!


This what I was thinking as I read the article.

After the Second Russian Revolution,they went thru a period of economic anarchy. Then they turned to oligarchic capitalism. Lots to criticize about any country and Russia has intimidated their neighbors and worse, but isn’t it also interesting that Putin has declared support for Christianity and sees homosexuality as a national threat?

Things move fast in today’s world and 21st century Americans aren’t Russian serfs, so I think that our brand of hard socialism trending towards communism will be short lived compared to the Russian experience. It will have to be long enough for everyone to become disillusioned. No telling what the reactionary phase will bring, though. Probably some resurgence of individualism and capitalism, though. I hope.


34 posted on 08/03/2013 5:25:21 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: kearnyirish2

At $20 or more for a restaurant pizza, people will spend $7 for a frozen pizza or make their own. We consider going out for a pizza (no delivery in my rural location)a luxury. Even then, we do our own pick up as well.


35 posted on 08/03/2013 5:31:23 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal

Frozen pizza is what we normally eat nowadays; I occasionally stop & pick up a pie if I’m bringing the kids home at 8:00 pm from soccer practice and my wife and I don’t feel like cooking (once every two months AT MOST). I was pleasantly surprised that Shop-Rite’s frozen pizza was much tastier than Ellio’s.


36 posted on 08/03/2013 5:42:33 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

This country has lost its once great manufacturing ability. Skilled trades people of not long ago will never pass those skills and knowledge on to the generation that will have to replace them. Computers, automation and advanced technology can’t do everything. Guess everyone had better learn how to flip hamburgers then.


37 posted on 08/03/2013 5:48:16 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Progov

Losing the manufacturing was probably inevitable; what has magnified this problem are the costs of maintaining a permanent (and growing) underclass on the backs of a dwindling number of taxpayers. With no profit motive/incentive, there is no reason to work (or vote for policies that would enable one to do so).

Trades people were shafted by immigration policies that gave much of their work to illegal aliens; they will work in skilled capacities even if they don’t have the skills, learning on the job (mistakes be damned).


38 posted on 08/03/2013 6:05:06 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Hojczyk

Had an economic expert on CBS This Morning Saturday just now who quoted this fellow when discussing the jobs report. She will not be asked back.


39 posted on 08/03/2013 6:27:39 AM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: The Antiyuppie

You do realize that the regular coffe at Starbucks costs the same as the coffee at Dunks right? I have Starbucks all the time, I just don’t order the fancy stuff like lattes or cappucinos. Nobody is forcing you to order that stuff.

In my opinion the regular coffe at Starbucks is better than the regular coffee at Dunks or McD’s. That’s just my opinion and I won’t argue taste buds.

Starbucks is an awesone economic success story. A small Seattle coffee chain becomes a global money-printer. isn’t that the kind of business success we want?

Again, to each his own. You can compare Starbucks to a bar. Lets face it, both are dispensing a legal drug (caffeine and alcohol). Both are providing and atmosphere for their customers to relax in. If I go to a bar I can order a Bud Light on Draft for a couple of bucks. Nobody is making me order a Guiness for $6. Same with mixed drinks. The bar makes more money on the fancy drinks obviously. Same with Starbucks. Its a free country and if you want to spend $5 on a fancy coffee drink - go right ahead.

I fail to see the problem in that.


40 posted on 08/03/2013 7:07:00 AM PDT by strider44
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To: The Antiyuppie
Actually the coffee price-point between Starbucks, Dunkin Donuts and McDonalds is very similar. You must be referring to the "specialty" drinks at Starbucks like the caramel macchiottos and the lattes and those funny looking all-swirled up things with the whipped cream on top that the ladies like to buy (if you can say the name of the drink in under three syllables, it's okay for a man to drink it too).

Basically you can get a regular Starbucks coffee for about the same price as a Dunkin Donuts or a McDonalds. But not many people at the Starbucks go in there for just the coffee.

Now Starbucks also has this selection of very rich-looking pastries at their counter but I never see anybody buying them. Can anybody close to the scene confirm whether or not the Starbucks pastries sell well?

At the Dunkin Donuts, those pastries get bought by the dozen and go wicked fast. Forget about getting a Boston Creme donut around here after 9am.

I like the fact that we have all these choices available to us. I like knowing that if the urge ever strikes me to have a slice of carrot cake for $6.50, I will be able to satisfy that urge at a Starbucks near me. More often then not, the urge is for a $9 glass of cask-ale from the yuppie pub down the road from me, you know the one, the one with all the British flags around it. I also get the fish and chips there which is a relative bargain at $7.95.

Also, what charities do you recommend? I find that most of them have 90% of more of their donations go to "operating costs" which translate to perks and benefits for their "volunteers."

If you truly want to be charitable, buy that $4.50 drink and hand it to a homeless bum as a treat.

41 posted on 08/03/2013 7:17:30 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76

The bum will probably throw that drink away. He wants cash, booze, & drugs.


42 posted on 08/03/2013 9:16:52 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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