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Driver accuses Texas DPS of extreme humiliation (Warning: Graffic language)
http://www.youtube.com ^ | December 18, 2012

Posted on 08/03/2013 6:14:22 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

In a new lawsuit, Angel Dobbs and her niece Ashley Dobbs, of Irving Texas, say they were searched inside their underwear by female Texas Trooper, Kelley Helleson, after a routine traffic stop in Dallas in July. The trooper who pulled them over, David Farrell, says on tape he saw them throw a cigarette butt out the window and smelled marijuana when he pulled them over. No drugs were found and they were released with a warning. The cousins say the trooper who performed the search used the same pair of gloves on both women. The cousins are now suing the Department of Public Safety.

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The first thing that jumped out at me, who in the hell gets pulled over for throwing cigarettes out the window, on the interstate? The female cop asked for it to be videoed. Didn't seem to be worried at all that she might be doing something unethical. Something don't add up here.
1 posted on 08/03/2013 6:14:22 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

Texas will stop you for throwing a cig out the window on the highway if they see it, especially during fire season.

That “Don’t Mess With Texas” is actually an anti-litter campaign.


2 posted on 08/03/2013 6:19:40 AM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: NKP_Vet

That was very graffic indeed. But a bit too graphic for my tastes.


3 posted on 08/03/2013 6:20:18 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: NKP_Vet

We are in a horrid drought here in Texas right now. Throwing a cigarette out of the window of a car could conceivably cause a prairie fire that could have horrible consequences.


4 posted on 08/03/2013 6:22:03 AM PDT by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: NKP_Vet

Seems like here in Texas the DPS has been seriously downgraded by poor hiring. These new patrolmen are nothing like the DPS Officers we used to have. Same can be said for local and county. Get a funky haircut and you are god to go.


5 posted on 08/03/2013 6:22:53 AM PDT by Comanche
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To: NKP_Vet

Aunt and niece does not equal “cousins”.


6 posted on 08/03/2013 6:23:35 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Well maybe in Arkansas.


7 posted on 08/03/2013 6:24:03 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: Little Pig

And Fire Season is 3/4 of the year in Texas!!


8 posted on 08/03/2013 6:26:15 AM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: NKP_Vet

Female cop looked like a dyke from Austin we use to see walking down 6th street looking for some action.


9 posted on 08/03/2013 6:28:25 AM PDT by shadeaud (Stay Thirsty My Friends)
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To: 2harddrive

It’s not really that bad. At least in the DFW area, it’s pretty wet from October through the end of April.


10 posted on 08/03/2013 6:31:30 AM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Seems to me, the crime of sexual assault is much worse than the crimes of which the drivers were suspected.


11 posted on 08/03/2013 6:31:30 AM PDT by Gumption
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To: Conspiracy Guy; NKP_Vet
Aunt and niece does not equal “cousins”.

Well maybe in Arkansas.

Then it would be sisters.

12 posted on 08/03/2013 6:34:18 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: Gumption

You’d think so, and in some parts of the country you’d be right, but the risk of grassfires in TX in mid-summer is real, and they can be severe. What the cops did after they got those women pulled over was moderately reprehensible, but the reason for the stop itself was laudable.


13 posted on 08/03/2013 6:34:46 AM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: NKP_Vet

I don’t have much pity for smokers that toss butts out of their cars. That’s littering for one and a fire hazard for another.


14 posted on 08/03/2013 6:34:49 AM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: NKP_Vet
The first thing that jumped out at me, who in the hell gets pulled over for throwing cigarettes out the window, on the interstate?

If I was a cop, I'd ticket everyone I ever saw do this. The world isn't your damn ashtray; throwing butts out your window is disgusting, trashy behavior. So I think a ticket is well warranted. Sexual assault is a different matter though. Now excuse me, I have to make a ffone call.

15 posted on 08/03/2013 6:36:19 AM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: NKP_Vet
Regardless of how one feels about marijuana or drug use in general, it seems to me to be totally ludicrous that police officers should have the right to do full body cavity searches on the side of a public road on people who are suspected of having marijuana in their possession. And so what if their search did turn up a marijuana cigarette or two. Do we really need to be filling up our prisons over such nonsense as this?

As for throwing cigarettes out the window, yes, definitely issue a citation for that. I hate it when people litter too. But no way did that traffic stop warrant a search like that.

16 posted on 08/03/2013 6:37:15 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: NKP_Vet

I believe the cops involved with this were fired and are being sued.


17 posted on 08/03/2013 6:38:04 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Little Pig

A warrantless roadside cavity search without probable cause is only “moderately reprehensible”?


18 posted on 08/03/2013 6:38:52 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Little Pig

They were searching for drugs (Pot) not cigarettes.


19 posted on 08/03/2013 6:40:36 AM PDT by Gumption
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To: NKP_Vet
Graffic language is the worst.

Especially during a traphic stop.

20 posted on 08/03/2013 6:41:53 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Comanche
These new patrolmen are nothing like the DPS Officers we used to have. Same can be said for local and county. Get a funky haircut and you are god to go.

Love the typo. Very appropriate.

21 posted on 08/03/2013 6:45:58 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: BipolarBob

I don’t think it merits a cavity search on the side of the road.


22 posted on 08/03/2013 6:54:17 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: basil

I doubt either of the girls had a lit doobie in their panties so I think we can rule out the danger of a prairie fire as an excuse.


23 posted on 08/03/2013 6:58:25 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: NKP_Vet

Official oppression...plain and simple.

Hope they sue the crap outta these officers.


24 posted on 08/03/2013 6:59:53 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: TangoLimaSierra

Sister Aunt Momma.


25 posted on 08/03/2013 7:01:54 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: basil
Throwing a cigarette out the window should get’cha a fine...not freakin cavity searched. These officers were way out of bounds.

The whole, “I smell the odor of marijuana” is a ruse some officers use to gain access to the inside of a persons vehicle.

I would have refused a search and asked they get a dog out to sniff the vehicle. If they want to trump up charges, make’em work for it.

26 posted on 08/03/2013 7:03:03 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: NKP_Vet

State Troopers Suspended after Extreme Cavity Searches

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGRyMXyfztk


27 posted on 08/03/2013 7:07:23 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: NKP_Vet; mickie; flaglady47; seenenuf; seekthetruth; pax_et_bonum; Maine Mariner; hoosiermama; ...
What strikes me in this thread is the casual chit-chat and light-hearted repartee about "littering", "cousins", "two f's" in "graphic", etc. when what we see in the video is a hideous violation of rights, a total debasement and humiliation of women out in public view...... medical procedures without permission, the ranger without medical license, experience or taking sterile precautions...the male ranger not defending or protecting these upset and powerless women against both anal and vaginal penetration.....a nightmare to view this video of a purposeful sexual totalitarian outrage in this supposedly-Constitutional republic in the middle of a public highway with passenger cars passing only a few yards away....

There should be OUTRAGE on this thread....by women and men alike!

How can ANY free American view this video and not be affronted, shocked and infuriated !!!

Leni

28 posted on 08/03/2013 7:24:51 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Little Pig

Dude!
Bad comment placement; not your fault.
You are #10; see #9.


29 posted on 08/03/2013 7:29:41 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Once an idiot threw a cigarette out his window, it landed in the hood of my car, and the vents began blowing stinky smoke into my car!


30 posted on 08/03/2013 7:31:06 AM PDT by MNDude (The system worked!)
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To: wildbill

I see what you did there....


31 posted on 08/03/2013 7:32:16 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: BipolarBob
I don’t have much pity for smokers that toss butts out of their cars. That’s littering for one and a fire hazard for another.

Speaking strictly as a smoker: no pity here, either.

32 posted on 08/03/2013 7:36:57 AM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: NKP_Vet

I’m amazed at all the cross contamination, anal, shoulder, coat, vagina, and then the other one, all while wearing the same gloves.


33 posted on 08/03/2013 7:39:56 AM PDT by ansel12 ( The difference between libertarianism and conservatism is the libertarian liberalism, not economics)
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To: Little Pig

Lesbian rape on the roadside is “moderately reprehensible”?

Wow. Just wow.


34 posted on 08/03/2013 8:38:14 AM PDT by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: MinuteGal

I watched the video and my first thought was a little heavy handed for a litter violation. I get the cigarette butts on the side of the road, I live in SoCal with heavy fire danger, but then I realized just what I was watching. Full cavity search on two females, on the side of a highway, cause an LEO says he smelled marajuana!!?? WHAT THE HELL!!?? Not even taking into account the cross contamination in using the same gloves. Where is the outrage indeed.


35 posted on 08/03/2013 8:42:32 AM PDT by Conservative4Ever (I'm going Galt)
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To: Rusty0604
I don’t think it merits a cavity search on the side of the road.

I don't either but if it makes them think twice about being careless, lesson learned. Give them both (officer and offender) a stern warning and let them go.

36 posted on 08/03/2013 8:57:50 AM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: NKP_Vet
"Two Texas state troopers indicted for roles in roadside body cavity search of two women

Trooper Kelley Helleson, who was later fired after the Texas Department of Public Safety investigated, was charged with two counts of sexual assault and two counts of official oppression. Trooper David Farrell was charged with theft after the women said their prescription went missing following last summer’s incident. The women, Ashley Dobbs, 24, and her aunt Angel Dobbs, 38, filed a suit last year saying they were traumatized by the search.
By Erik Ortiz / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Sunday, March 24, 2013, 10:56 AM

37 posted on 08/03/2013 9:10:23 AM PDT by moovova (Sell everything, folks. Be poised to run.)
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To: xjcsa

Unless the patrolman is side by side with the motorist, or tailgating them, there is no way in the world you can see someone throw a cigarette butt out the window. To me it’s just a convenient excuse to pull someone over, about like seeing them with no seat-belt on and pulling them over, which is just another reason for stopping someone, then acting like they are a mass murderer on the loose.


38 posted on 08/03/2013 9:26:44 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: shadeaud
Female cop put her gloves on to protect herself from having some bacteria transmitted to her, but never ungloved and regloved when she searched the second set of cavities. This was rape, clear and simple. These 2 women were overpowered by the fear of government force based on a predetermination by the cop he was going to search that car before he pulled them over. These two cops should be criminally prosecuted for sexual harrassment, rape, battery, and anything else the law can bring against them.

It was disgusting to see these two women profiled and assaulted by the state of Texas.

The two "perps" got away with," you may go now". The cops acted this way because they could.

Consider....if they were smoking marijuana....does that constitute the right of the government to rape them? Arrest them and draw a clot on them and check their blood for THC and any other drug they want....but they are not there to be raped by the capriciousnes of two cops representing the state of Texas.

They are out of control.

39 posted on 08/03/2013 9:32:28 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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Unless the patrolman is side by side with the motorist, or tailgating them, there is no way in the world you can see someone throw a cigarette butt out the window.

Sorry, but that's just not true. I see it all the time and I never tailgate. Maybe I just have good eyes (I did have LASIK), but it's perfectly visible to me when it happens.

40 posted on 08/03/2013 9:33:16 AM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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Lesson learned?!!
WOW.

Is your tongue sore yet from boot-licking?

The tossing of a cigarette butt merits a modest littering fine AND NOTHING MORE.

Two Americans are assaulted by police officers and it doesn’t bother you?

The War on Drugs has been nothing more than the most often used and useful justification to intimidate and rob American citizens of possessions and freedom;now our leaders also use the War on Terror in the same way.

Both Wars were started by Republican presidents as fatally flawed answers to real problems,and embraced by statists of both parties.

Freedom for the peasants is just so damn inconvenient for the ruling class.

Neither of those officers should ever be allowed any government job again.And I would give both officers a stern warning to behave better in the future as they were being escorted out the door after serving a year in jail.


41 posted on 08/03/2013 9:33:45 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: driftdiver

They should be criminally prosecuted.


42 posted on 08/03/2013 9:34:30 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: xjcsa

I can see it when I am directly behind someone, especially when the SOB throws it out the window the the little fireball comes straight at me. Even in my smoking days I never threw a cigarette out the window. It’s stupid and dangerous.


43 posted on 08/03/2013 9:47:36 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: hoosierham
Americans are assaulted by police officers and it doesn’t bother you?

Yes it does bother me. I said it was unwarranted. They don't litter again. No problem. The officers don't unnecessarily harass motorists again. No problem. Both were in the wrong. I live on a road in which motorists routinely toss their trash for yours truly to pick up. So I don't care for either behavior.

44 posted on 08/03/2013 9:50:34 AM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: BipolarBob
Are you actually putting on par discarding 2 cigarette butts and sexual assault and battery, rape, and the humiliation these two women had to endure? If these women broke the law, give them a citation, arrest them, fine them.....but don't rape them.

The male cop made his mind up with a conjured 'pretext" of "I smell marijuana", before he even pulled these 2 women over. These cops are no better than the jerk who imprisoned and raped those little girls. No, they did not use steel chains to control these women, but they did use fear and intimidation to control them, raped them, then, finding nothing, they said the women could leave.

So rape = littering. Nice.

I smell marijuana.....pretext......We will rape these two....after raping.....you may go. Sounds like BillClinton raping Wanita Brodderick and then tell her to put some ice on it. How magnanamous.

45 posted on 08/03/2013 10:19:05 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: NKP_Vet

Funny story... a coworker had taken up smoking cigars when he was diagnosed with throat polyps (he was hopelessly addicted to liquor, tobacco, and other illicit substances).

One night he was driving down the road in his F-250 worktruck with a Reading truck body and tossed a cigar butt out the window, oblivious to the fact that a NJ State trooper was right behind him. The cigar literally bounced off the trooper’s windshield. The lights went right on and he got pulled over... my coworker was technically drunk... but as a “functioning alcoholic”, having half a fifth of whiskey in him was about the equivalent of having a Grape Nehi.

He didn’t get a DUI, but did get a summons for “Throwing a hazardous object from a moving vehicle”.

The take-away quotable quote from the Trooper was when he initially walked up to the window and said, “What’s the matter? Doesn’t that Big Red Jalopy have an ashtray?”

To this day, we still call that truck “The Red Jalopy”.


46 posted on 08/03/2013 10:44:38 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: MinuteGal

“What strikes me in this thread is the casual chit-chat and light-hearted repartee about “littering”, “cousins”, “two f’s” in “graphic”, etc.......

I was thinking the exact same thing. A “ticket” offense that allows for an unsanitary, degrading, finger-rape of our Fourth Amendment on a public road. Scary posts from FREEpers.


47 posted on 08/03/2013 10:51:05 AM PDT by myheroesareDeadandRegistered
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To: MinuteGal
Mark :30 sec, "both going to get a citation for throwing trash out". But at Mark 4;55 Farrell says "Have a seat, I'll be over there to write you a warning." Raped as sexual assault for a warning of throwing out 2 cigarette butts. By to way, do marijuana smokers usual throw out their marijuana butts, or do they smoke them down to the numb?

Mark 1:14- "Where are you going/" Why are you going there?" Does that have anything to do with enforcing the law?

Mark 1:50sec-"I smell the odor of marijuana and am going to search the car." Subjective pretext to allow trouper Farrell to get off on watching a government sanctioned rape. Nice. I just viewed on You Tube state troupers in Brazoria county stop 2 black females for throwing out trash. Then...guess what...the trouper "smelled marijuana"...and found a butt of a marijuana cigarette....And guess what....after finding the marijuana they called for a cavity search....One of the women was crying as she was penetrated by the examining trouper. Looks like this is training coming from the top.

Mark 2:29 sec- "Both of these women are acting weird, especially the driver." Did you think she was acting weird. She sounded 100% compliant to me. But, the plan to rape had already been begun. That bastard was going through with it.

Then the threat....Mark 1"30 sec.-...."are there any drugs....and don't lie to me. It will go a lot better for you if you tell me the truth". Now, coming from a cop, that is very intimidating. Everyone this prick has arrested and or convicted should get a judicial review of their case

Mark 5:00 sec.-"We will chalk it up to daily smoking in the car, and you may go."

If these cops get away with it, if the state troupers training manual is the impetus....the state of Texas should pay big-time. Let's just break it down...How much for your mother, sister wife to be anally raped.....what is it worth for your daughter to be raped in full sight along side the highway by pervert law enforcement officers? What is the price for taking a gloved finger....jamming it up a woman's rectum ....then... whith the same giove....placing it inside the vaginal vault of the second......Infection.....fear of infection...What is the price for those actions What is the legal formula. Cystitis, vagininitus, herpes, gonorrhea, worry, anxiety of STDs,......How do we arrive at parity?

No, these two pricks should go to prison and have about 15 years to think about what they did. .

48 posted on 08/03/2013 11:26:00 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: Texas Songwriter

I didn’t watch the video. Rape is a felony. So no I am not equating the two.


49 posted on 08/03/2013 11:52:17 AM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: hoosierham

The war on drugs was started because the punks in the sixties popularized drug usage. I think of all the lives ended and/or wasted because these punks wanted to rebel against society. Today even elementary school kids are using the stuff. There were over nine hundred in my high school graduating class and I cannot remember anyone who even knew what drugs were. Those punks completely changed our culture and not for the better either. They gave us drugs, casual sex, shacking up instead of marriage, disrespect for our founders and our country.


50 posted on 08/03/2013 11:55:22 AM PDT by saminfl
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