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Part-time women doctors ARE a real problem. Why is it sexist to say so? (Melanie Phillips)
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 9 June 2013 | Melanie Phillips

Posted on 08/03/2013 5:22:57 PM PDT by neverdem

Never did three words, surely, have a more explosive and utterly disproportionate effect.

In a Commons debate last week on the deficiencies of the new 111 emergency service, a Tory MP, Anne McIntosh, suggested one reason why there were too few GPs to answer urgent calls.

Since some 70 per cent of medical students were now women, she said, the fact that many of them wanted to have children and then go part-time meant a ‘tremendous burden’ on the NHS if it effectively had to train two GPs to do the work of one.

In reply the junior Health Minister Anna Soubry said: ‘You make a very important point when you talk about, rightly, the good number of women who are training to be doctors, but the unintended consequences

She didn’t actually finish her sentence, but left the thought of ‘the unintended consequences’ hanging in the air. For these three words, she was instantly jumped upon and metaphorically beaten up by a steady procession of angry women.

Dr Clare Gerada, head of the Royal College of GPs, was incredulous ‘that women doctors are being blamed for problems in the NHS’. Another commentator accused Ms Soubry of having delivered ‘the biggest guilt trip of all when it comes to flexible working’.

Yet others heaped withering scorn upon the hapless Health Minister. Didn’t she understand that women had babies? So of course women doctors wanted to work part-time. Duh! And because it suited women to do so, there couldn’t possibly be any problem with that. It was obviously the perfect solution for absolutely everyone. End of argument. No awareness whatever of the total absence of logic in such claims — not to mention the failure to acknowledge the interests of anyone other than women doctors.

No, the only possible explanation for Ms...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
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To: ClaytonP
Yep .. I'll be goin' out with just as much as I came in with, and thanks to that traitor negro's destruction of the economy, I'm only hopin' to keep the lights on in the meantime.
21 posted on 08/03/2013 6:11:09 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: neverdem

Don’t know why women doctors need special treatment.
They can just put their kids in the government creche
with all the other children of the state.


22 posted on 08/03/2013 6:12:34 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: BlueStateRightist

So we sterilize these women or do we lock them up when they want time off?


23 posted on 08/03/2013 6:16:14 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: tomkat
. . . illustrating yet again why it's a good time to be old.

Ain't that the truth!

The reality is that the good times have come and gone. I am so glad and very appreciative that I lived in those days.

24 posted on 08/03/2013 6:27:01 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: onyx; musicman; RedMDer
Well heck, guess I best *git* me one of them danged Facebook accounts :)
25 posted on 08/03/2013 6:27:07 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz......Nuff said.)
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To: BlueStateRightist

Sincere question: I am a woman over forty whose children are grown. I am applying to med school and seek a specialty that is NOT female-dominated. Any suggestions?


26 posted on 08/03/2013 6:27:34 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: The Cajun

27 posted on 08/03/2013 6:28:12 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: utahagen

why does the sex matter in choosing a speciality? The ones with mostly women are low paying.


28 posted on 08/03/2013 6:32:45 PM PDT by cajungirl
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To: cajungirl

Not true. Dermatology refutes that assertion.


29 posted on 08/03/2013 6:36:12 PM PDT by BlueStateRightist
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To: utahagen

” I am applying to med school and seek a specialty that is NOT female-dominated. Any suggestions?”

Most all surgical subspecialties.


30 posted on 08/03/2013 6:41:38 PM PDT by BlueStateRightist
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To: Kirkwood

Neither. We complain about them not staying home and raising their kids. When they decide to work part time to both make a living and be moms, we complain that they’re screwing things up by not working full time. When they quit their part time jobs and have no retirement (because a one income household in this economy has ever increasing expenses to pay instead of investing for mommy’s later years) we complain about their government dependency.

Big Gov has made it quite difficult to stay home. That is not a design flaw on Big Gov’s part. Our costs of living have skyrocketed thanks to entitlement programs, expanding regulations, bureaucracies, etc. Families, even our very frugal family, need two incomes to compensate for obama giving millions in aid to every foreign despot with his or her hand out. If I stayed home there would be no money to invest for my later years, and God only knows what to expect with healthcare alone!


31 posted on 08/03/2013 6:42:25 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: OldPossum

Amen . . . one of my few sources of sincere gratitude is having grown up in small towns in the midwest from the mid 50s to mid 60s . . . to be a kid today and know very little of this country pre-USSA is truly tragic.


32 posted on 08/03/2013 6:46:01 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: goodwithagun
.. That is not a design flaw on Big Gov’s part ..

wanna bet ?!

33 posted on 08/03/2013 6:47:43 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: SampleMan

Women are killing the veterinary profession. Newer veterinary classes are almost 70-30% women to men. Women don’t want to own a practice, don’t want to work full time and therefore the glut of veterinarians brings the income lower for each one. Men that want to be breadwinners and intelligent enough for a veterinary curriculum are not entering the profession.


34 posted on 08/03/2013 6:50:31 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: utahagen
I am applying to med school and seek a specialty that is NOT female-dominated. Any suggestions?

Orthopedics
Neurosurgery
Urology
Cardiothoracic Surgery

35 posted on 08/03/2013 6:51:02 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: tomkat

Perhaps writing in the negative muddied my intent: Big Gov designed the current system so that it is quite difficult for moms to stay home.


36 posted on 08/03/2013 6:51:24 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun
The DC communists and their apparatchiks throughout this once free nation have, at least since the mid 50s, ALWAYS been about ANYTHING that lessens individual freedom and eviscerates the Constitution.

McCarthy was right all along, and how presciently he nailed it has never been more apparent than today.

/.02

37 posted on 08/03/2013 6:58:07 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: HangnJudge; utahagen

There’s a reason those are male dominated - cardiothoracic for example requires an insane amount of hours in the hospital to be available for surgery. (And, it is a dying field as many surgeries now can be performed in new, less invasive ways). Few women, especially those that want children, would be willing to put in those types of hours. Neuro has a brutal residency requirement - 12 years plus - and that’s after med school. Again, women who want to have children have to make a choice.

Ortho is a legit choice, but know that you need tremendous upper body strength to do some of the expected operations.

This information my daughter (who is in med school) has shared with me in regards to her own field choices.


38 posted on 08/03/2013 7:03:26 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: BenLurkin

I had a coworker that was a local farmer boy and carded IAM machinist working aside me as management in a locomotive shop. He was well-respected by the Craft we oversaw, technically knowlegeble on the product and maintenance tasks, and absolutely did not get along with our shithead drunk shop manager, that knew absolutely nothing about the product line, and just wanted us to abuse the labor for the sake of abusing the labor... the guy was a serious jackass and a liar.

When my coworker’s wife had her baby, my coworker, having fully read up on corporate policy, and FMLA... used it to tell the manager, in essence, “Go F*** Yourself!”. He was on “vacation”, “helping his wife” for many weeks... I think it was somewhere from 3 to 6 weeks.

While I was kinda pissed at all the OT that caused me to work... I couldn’t be pissed at him... the real problem was the Shop Manager.


39 posted on 08/03/2013 7:06:01 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: vetvetdoug

How does a vet NOT own a practice, I’m wondering? The only option is to work for a vet who does, or try to work for a vet school. Or maybe become a bureaucrat in the licensing board? What else?


40 posted on 08/03/2013 7:10:06 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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