Posted on 08/03/2013 9:03:50 PM PDT by cambyses
Do you have gun in the house?
GOOD TO KNOW!
When I had my gangrene gallbladder taken out and spent 10 days in the hospital for what should have been an overnight stay, the insurance company kicked me out. I had home nurse visits for two weeks and was asked if I had guns in the house. I respond that if I did I would not tell them. So the below has some merit.
FYI, I am passing this along... there are comments from two other people I have also been asked if we keep guns in the house. The nurse just kinda slipped it in along with all the other regular questions. I told her I refused to answer because it was against the law to ask.
Everyone, whether you have guns or not, should give a neutral answer so they have no idea who does and who doesn't. My doctor asked me if I had guns in my house and also if any were loaded. I, of course, answered yes to both questions. Then he asked why I kept a loaded gun close to my bed. I answered that my son, who is a certified gun instructor and also works for Homeland Security, advised me that an unloaded, locked up gun is no protection against criminal attack.
The Government now requires these questions be asked of people on Medicare, and probably everyone else.
Just passing this along for your information: I had to visit a doctor other than my regular doctor when my doctor was on vacation.. One of the questions on the form I had to fill out was: Do you have any guns in your house?? My answer was None of your business!!
So it is out there! It is either an insurance issue or government intervention. Either way, it is out there and the second the government gets into your medical records (as they want to under Obamacare) it will become a major issue and will ultimately result in lock and load!!
Please pass this on to all the other retired guys and gun owners... Thanks, from a Vietnam Vet and retired Police Officer: I had a doctor's appointment at the local VA clinic yesterday and found out something very interesting that I would like to pass along. While going through triage before seeing the doctor, I was asked at the end of the exam, three questions: 1. Did I feel stressed? 2. Did I feel threatened? 3. Did I feel like doing harm to someone?
The nurse then informed me that if I had answered yes to any of the questions I would have lost my concealed carry permit as it would have gone into my medical records and the VA would have reported it to Homeland Security.
Looks like they are going after the vets first. Other gun people like retired law enforcement will probably be next. Then when they go after the civilians, what argument will they have? Be forewarned and be aware. The Obama administration has gone on record as considering veterans and gun owners potential terrorists. Whether you are a gun owner, veteran or not, YOU'VE BEEN WARNED !
If you know veterans and gun owners, please pass this on to them. Be very cautious about what you say and to whom.
And those who hang up particularly. I refuse to answer any questions over the phone. I just hang up. Yes, it makes things difficult at times but if I didn’t initiate the call or if the question has no relevance to the reason for the call, forget it.
Ever have a hunting license? Ever go through a background Check for a gun purchase? The info you tell your doctor is going to go up to big brother.
Would a "NO" to your doctor, in light of the fact that you have conflicting information result in a visit from the feds?
I don't know. But would that justify a early morning raid based on the fact that you lied?
Just wondering.
A few months ago I had to go the emergency room. When they were admitting me, taking blood pressure, temperature, etc, and the guy was typing on the computer and asking all these questions and he said to me, “Have you brought any weapons with you?” Without even thinking, (and knowing what they were going to have to do to me), I blurted out, “No. Should I have?”
I guess I’ll put all my guns in my truck when I go to the doctor.
Just like the people used to do in the old Soviet Union. That's what happens when the government becomes an oppressive tyranny with no respect for individuals or their rights.
Sad to see how quickly it seems to be happening here. When no one trusts the government, when laws are twisted or malleable, when no one has any trust or faith in common decency or morality, this is where it leads. Everyone becomes a criminal when their government goes off the rails and creates laws that violate the people's rights.
This is a hoax that has been floating around the internet for several years now.
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That you Neville? Mr. Quisling? I give up-Please sign in.
yes, you can answer that question with that answer, honestly.
the following two responses work well.
1. for safety reasons, i do not discuss my personal security requirements with people i don’t live with.
2. immediately askcthe doctor how many weapons s/he has and how much ammo, and thenstart asking how many patients have they made iatrogenic mistakes on, and how many they’ve injured and killed over the years, how many lawsuits they’ve had, how much losses they’ve had to pay, etc. watch their reaction.
I try to make sure never to have “a” gun in the house.
“OBAMACARE AND THE MONKEY BEHIND IT CAN GO TO FUC**** HELL!”
Really?
I get so tired of people mistaking chimps for monkeys.
I would say show up uninvited at 1 am and find out
In general, I approve of honesty and am almost compulsive about it. However, when you are being robbed or otherwise attacked, there is no moral obligation to cooperate truthfully. The government and the medical community can no longer be considered friendly, and we should immediately and without shame lie in response to any question that is none of their business. If you’re there for heart/gall-bladder/physical/whatever, a professional has no business asking about peripheral issues such as firearms, and a free American has no business answering, at least not truthfully. If I am in a situation in which the police have a right to know (pulled over while armed), I will tell them. Otherwise, no one has a right to know unless they are shooting with me.
Note to the NSA: This is purely an academic comment. I have no firearms in my home.
1. Did I feel stressed? 2. Did I feel threatened? 3. Did I feel like doing harm to someone?
Practice, Practice,Practice.........at some point it becomes so routine that stress no longer enters the equation and one no longer feels threatened. And the “doing harm to someone” turns into self preservation....which feels Good !
Just say no I do not have just one gun in the house.
The correct response is, “You’ll have to open my door uninvited in order to find out what’s in the house...”
Do I feel stressed, threatened, or like I want to hurt someone?
No, but then again, I haven’t gotten your bill yet, either.
There are a few valid reasons to ask about firearms in the home, along the same lines as, “Your father’s dementia getting worse and his unpredictable hostility is concerning. If he keeps a gun in the home, that’s probably not a good idea anymore.” If you have firearms in the house, remember to make them chid safe, Johnny is going to start crawling soon.”
That said, the issue can be addressed without asking about ownership, and there is zero reason to enter ownership into a medical record.
Probably because you are on the national gun registry.
“Just say no.”
In general I agree, but down the road the forms will include a “perjury proviso” of some sort, saying that if you lie on the form it’s a felony. Gotcha both ways, when their computers tally up your “virtual gun ownership list” from your past purchases etc.
I would not put it past them to match up people who answer “No” with CC holders and then claim you must have lied.
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