Skip to comments.Professor says kids no longer need to learn spelling and grammar because of smartphones
Posted on 08/04/2013 11:13:50 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
Professor says kids no longer need to learn spelling and grammar because of smartphones
The Daily Caller 4 hours ago Education
Several skills that every kid once learned in school are going the way of the dodo in a hurry. Diagramming sentences is practically an extinct art, for example. Cursive handwriting and memorized multiplication tables look to be swiftly headed that way.
Apparently, the next thing that kids will no longer need to learn is spelling and grammar.
Sugata Mitra, a professor of educational technology at Newcastle University in northeast England, announced that traditional language rules are out of fashion, reports the Daily Mail. Kids dont need to waste time on those things, see. State-of-the-art computers and mobile phones can make the necessary corrections.
Spelling and grammar are a bit unnecessary because they are skills that were very essential maybe 100 years ago but they are not right now, Mitra said. Firstly, my phone corrects my spelling so I dont really need to think about it and, secondly, because I often skip grammar and write in a cryptic way.
The professor made the anti-spelling proclamation at a time when the British government is rolling out a host of educational standards including one that will require students to take a spelling test involving 200 complex words near the end of grade school.
Another exam for 11-year-olds that tests spelling, grammar and punctuation was launched this year.
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There, they’re, their, petal, metal, meddle, stuff like that. Things I learned to differentiate between when I was... what, 9, 10 years old?
Nazi Ball Soup...HAH!
And he’s Jewish...
No Nazi Ball Soup For YOU!
Changing spellings doth make no sense. What hath the author wrought?
“Brave New World”
I recall hearing the same sort of nonsense many years ago, when some education professors declared that due to the pervasiveness of calculators, children no longer needed to learn basic math.
What these morons miss is that these disciplines give a young student tools to use in more advanced studies as an older student or even in life.
Is it any wonder that schools of education usually have the lowest admission standards?
I’m a huge fan of diagramming sentences because if you can diagram them you know your parts of speech. Of course, once the Education Depts. in colleges and universities began to posture themselves in the role of “preparing teachers of the future”, and anyone wanting to teach had to go through their programs —those tried and true methods went out the window. I’ll never forget hitting 9th grade and being told by my English teacher (when I asked her how a specific sentence would look in a diagram) that she had no idea how to diagram.....It was surreal.
Two bee oar knot too be ...
wt u mean no wy cn b dis
Someone should write a science fiction story about Rachel Jeantel being transported to the distant future....
I was actually Thinking about “1984”, but yes, this fits the “Brave new World” paradigm as well.
Both Books were excellent.
If the teachers are “certified” and had to jump through the hoops of the completely useless “Education Department” of any college or university, you are correct. Pair that with how hard it is to fire incompetent teachers because of tenure and it’s a recipe for complete disaster. What needs to happen is for these departments to be abolished. Those wanting to teach others need to be masters in their subject matter. No excuses. No exceptions. Ban the unions and tenure as well. THEN — and ONLY then — would you begin to see the state of education in this land rise.
All kids need to learn for 12 years is to obey master government, fill out welfare forms, where the nearest abortion clinics are (already a big lesson in NYC schools) and crap like that
I want one of those.
Maybe I could “dial” a number without accidentally hitting the wrong number for a change
I fear that they would marvel at her brilliance and diction.
Exhibit A: Travon’s text messages. Some phones is smarter’n some folks.
We’re getting closer and closer to the day when the machines completely take over. Some people think that’s a good thing. I remember reading some radical literature in college way back, and reading one article by some hippie who couldn’t wait for the day when machines took over and people could take drugs all day. Do I want to go back to the time before machines? No way. But the more we let some machine do some chore that we could do with a little or a lot of effort, we get closer to the day when machines run our lives. How human will we be then?
“...professing themselves to be wise, they became fools...”
On the other hand, they did look like this:
So it's not as if it's a total loss.
a professor who couldn’t teach simple grammar and spelling and now has found an excuse to avoid trying
Preparing kids for the “want fries with that” job of the future.
That one just made me LOL.
A college professor shouldn’t need to teach simple grammar and spelling if you ask me. Our schools have failed so bad that this is now a college issue?
But if you make it in 2002, she looks like this:
Which is interesting, given that in the original novel by H. G. Wells, they are described as the Eloi are described as being smaller than modern humans, having shoulder-length curly hair, chins that ran to a point, large eyes, small ears, and small mouths with bright red thin lips.
many colleges are cutting out advanced courses or even Shakespeare and Chaucer and so forth,
and putting in remedial English classes
due to the need, failure of grammar schools and high schools...to do the job..
I used to live in Orick. Auto correct does a fine job with that one.
no need of real English classes, Shakespeare or? anymore....
not with modern technology
I thought it ironic that this thread and the "Voluntary Human Extinction Movement" thread should be posted back~to~back. They both represent the nihilistic bent of humans that is rapidly reaching the tipping point.
When a significant number of people devolve to the point where they no longer hold any interest in the future of their own species it bodes ill for all of us. Because in one way or another they will seek to drag us down with them.
I wish I knew what could be done - all I know is to separate myself from them and try to shield my family from their degenerate influences.
Oh, well then.....what a great way to communicate your ideas: Cryptically!
Well, after being lectured by MSNBCNN about what an intellectual Rachel Jeantel was, perhaps he has a point.
Oh come on, Sub-Driver, why should kids bother their busy little heads with spelling and grammar when they have such interesting video games and ‘n stuff?
And gangs to play with. And stores to rob. And citizens to murder.
Have a heart, fellah.
hunka hunka burning crap
omg that made me smile a big smile. so many years ago....
this is hugh and series
There is just no way to make the seventies not look stupid is there?
“I recall hearing the same sort of nonsense many years ago, when some education professors declared that due to the pervasiveness of calculators, children no longer needed to learn basic math.”
Every now and then, I get out the old bamboo slide rule and give it a spin just to see if I still remember how it works.
They need to know spelling just enough to vote Democrat (with a little help from a friendly “poll watcher).”
He also set the original in London. What can you say? Movie writers take creative license.
Noam Chomsky’s brilliant Whole Language English instruction single-handedly reduced the literacy skills of black children from almost on a par with white children, to illiterate, in a little more than a single decade, insuring failure in school and perpetual impoverishment for millions of black people.
Thus Noam Chomsky has done more than any other person, alive or dead, to “Keep the black man down”. So much for his “bright idea”.
But this being said, pronouncements about what children need and what they do not need from such academics has lost so much credibility, that it will take 500 or more years before *anything*, *any* of them say should even be considered as possible.
if they do this their is going to be troubul
Using autocorrect is stupid. Better to just learn to do it right!
There’s no autocorrect for stupidity. If there were, every time I type in imposter, it would correct it to 0bama.
They are learning the environmental 3 r’s, reuse, recycle and reduce. Guess they are training them all to be trash men.
On the subject of learning multiplication tables, long division; etc., the Ct. school system around the U. Conn. area announced its decision to stop teaching the multiplication tables and long division. My sister, herself a teacher, was next to an old German engineer during the decision. The brilliant engineer shook his head sadly, turned to my sister and told her the school board was making a serious mistake. As a old, wise engineer, he should know what he is talking about.
From a physiological perspective,what the process of education requires of the student through his exercises is and actual imprinting of his brain. Yet, under the influence of the philosophy of Romanticism, contemporary education is fundamentally opposed to these essentials of education.It draws a distinction between "problem solving," which it views as "creative," and claims to favor, and "memorization," which it appears to regard as an imposition on the students, who's valuable, executive time, it claims,can be better spent in "problem solving."
Contemporary education is responsible for the growing prevalence of irrational skepticism. The students subjected to it do not acquire actual knowledge, The have no firm foundation in a base of memorized facts, and they have not acquired any solid knowledge of principles, because their education has, as far as possible, avoided the painstaking processes of logical proof and repeated application of principles, which latter constitutes a vital and totally legitimate form of memorization.
Their failure to memorize such things as the multiplication tables in their childhood makes it impossible for them to understand whatever directly depends on such knowledge, which in turn makes it impossible for them to acquire the further knowledge that depends on that knowledge, and so on. With each passing year of their education, they fall further behind.
Last year I cudn’t spel collige student now I are one...
If Einstein then asked them to be quiet so that he could teach, 10 of them would collaborate to write a statement that he said something sexual or threatened them, and then Einstein would be removed and put into the Absent Teacher Reserve or worse. Whatever the kids say is "substantiated" and the teacher is not believed at all. The teacher's authority is undermined, heck, blown to complete hell. The teacher is the prey of the students, who don't want to do any work and yet want a passing grade.
But all you can complain about is teachers unions. Walk a mile in the moccasins of a NYC high school teacher, then get back to me. If you live long enough. I've seen 2 colleagues carried out on stretchers and numerous others assaulted and injured.