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After violent weekend, Milwaukee officials seek tougher gun laws
Milwaukee J-S ^ | 06 aug 2013 | Don Walker and Ashley Luthern

Posted on 08/06/2013 5:50:40 AM PDT by rellimpank

With non-fatal shootings in the city up 19% in June and July compared with last year, Police Chief Edward Flynn and Mayor Tom Barrett on Monday called on state legislators to pass laws boosting penalties for criminals who possess firearms.

Three people were killed and eight others were wounded over the weekend, a toll more violent than the same weekend last year. Milwaukee police statistics also show that June and July this year have had the most non-fatal shootings since the same months in 2006.

Flynn and Barrett said the linkage between firearms-related deadly violence and criminals was clear-cut.

"The culture of retaliatory violence is aided and abetted by the fact that it's more dangerous to see your enemy without your gun than with it," Flynn said.

He added that the majority of shooters and their victims were people with long criminal histories.

Both called on legislators to enact a law that calls for a three-year minimum mandatory sentence for illegally possessing a firear

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: banglist; blackcrime; guncontrol; secondamendment; wis

1 posted on 08/06/2013 5:50:40 AM PDT by rellimpank
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but will the youth gangs and other criminal element be deterred by more gun restrictions?


2 posted on 08/06/2013 5:53:33 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: rellimpank
---gee whillikers---Barrett and C of P admit there may be a connection between criminals and crime--

--this is a bit different than the usual J-S stuff--

3 posted on 08/06/2013 5:53:42 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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Flynn and Barrett said the linkage between firearms-related deadly violence and criminals was clear-cut...

Well I'll be, who would have thought.

4 posted on 08/06/2013 5:55:54 AM PDT by Old North State
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To: rellimpank

It is the number of criminals, not the number of guns that drive crime stats.


5 posted on 08/06/2013 5:59:47 AM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The gang bangers and the rest of the crud will not be deterred by the laws because they think they won’t get caught and prosecuted now. What it will do, if they get caught and the system doesn’t let them go, will be to warehouse them for three years so that they will be off the streets.


6 posted on 08/06/2013 6:01:16 AM PDT by Glennb51
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To: rellimpank

...and the criminals (being the good citizens there are) will follow those laws??? Idiocy!


7 posted on 08/06/2013 6:02:15 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
but will the youth gangs and other criminal element be deterred by more gun restrictions?

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I wouldn't call it a gun restriction. Milwaukee's Mayor is pressing legislators to "pass laws boosting penalties for criminals who possess firearms." The Mayor isn't asking that citizens be prevented from possessing guns legally, nor is he calling for any penalties for those who use their guns legally. He's simply calling for sentencing penalty enhancers for people who use a gun while committing a criminal act or for possessing a gun illegally. As long as Wisconsin doesn't make it difficult to possess a firearm legally like other blue states often do, then I don't have a problem with the Mayor's suggestion.

8 posted on 08/06/2013 6:02:17 AM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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9 posted on 08/06/2013 6:02:29 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: rellimpank
Hmmm - I think I see the problem. And gun control won't solve it.

He added that the majority of shooters and their victims were people with long criminal histories.

10 posted on 08/06/2013 6:03:30 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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Make every violent criminal act committed with a gun a crime punishable by life without parole and leave the honest law abiding gun owners alone. Any violent crime committed with a gun is attempted murder.

Governments at all levels have let every crisis be an opportunity to remove, or restrict our Creator Given Rights, supposedly guaranteed by the Constitution. Nice, criminals commit a crime and the honest public pay twice. Once for the original crime and secondly for the loss of freedom.

Time is long passed where we need to treat all levels of government as criminal enterprises subject to RICO prosecution.


11 posted on 08/06/2013 6:03:33 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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And have thoes life sentences carried out working chain gangs.


12 posted on 08/06/2013 6:11:25 AM PDT by VRWCarea51 (w n)
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To: rellimpank
Both called on legislators to enact a law that calls for a three-year minimum mandatory sentence for illegally possessing a firearms

Zero tolerance laws are needed because of crappy judges.

13 posted on 08/06/2013 6:13:52 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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To: Wurlitzer
Make every violent criminal act committed with a gun a crime punishable by life without parole and leave the honest law abiding gun owners alone.

And hope if you ever need to use your legal gun in self defense, it won't be ruled a crime by a liberal judge/jury/DA.

14 posted on 08/06/2013 6:17:23 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: rellimpank

Gee Whiz. Why don’t they just raise taxes. That should solve the problem.


15 posted on 08/06/2013 6:19:14 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: rellimpank

So if I’m willing to murder someone, why would I give a whit about a 3 year sentence for firearm possession?


16 posted on 08/06/2013 6:19:56 AM PDT by barefoot_hiker
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To: 2banana; All
-- I thought it astounding to see Barrett and Flynn admit this-

-- will we now see them admitting that the "majority of shooters and their victims" are members of a certain ethnic group?

17 posted on 08/06/2013 6:22:48 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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That’ll do the trick.With about the toughest gun laws in the nation Chicago's murder rate has plummeted 2% to only 75 per weekend.
18 posted on 08/06/2013 6:25:22 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit.)
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Was alcohol involved? Are they going to crack down on beer production?


19 posted on 08/06/2013 6:39:44 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
"...but will the youth gangs and other criminal element be deterred by more gun restrictions?"

Well actually these aren't "gun restrictions", they are sentences on/for commission of crimes using firearms.

My take.....the law should REQUIRE that violent firearm crimes should ALWAYS be tried, and not "plea-bargained" away as they for the most part are currently.

Also, that each use of a firearm in a violent felony count as a separate instance towards "three-strikes" permanent incarceration. In theory, a perp could then get life imprisonment for a single crime, if more than one firearms violation occurred during commission of the original felony.

20 posted on 08/06/2013 6:42:20 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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But that might hurt their feelings and self esteem. Can’t be doin’ that. Incidentally, I read that kalifornia is prepping to turn a whole bunch of “reformed”(?) criminals out of prison under mandate from some court due to overcrowding.


21 posted on 08/06/2013 6:49:55 AM PDT by rktman (Inergalactic background checks? King hussein you're first up.)
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To: rellimpank

Longer sentences and tougher judges for armed criminals makes sense. So does imposing the death penalty for murder, as long as it is carried out expeditiously.


22 posted on 08/06/2013 7:56:44 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!)
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To: rellimpank

Leave it to the liberal press. This isn’t a gun control law, it is a punish the criminals for the crime of carrying a firearm and using it illegally. The NRA has pushed these type of laws for decades. Pass laws that have mandatory sentencing for committing crimes with firearms and for felons who carry firearms. Real common sense laws, unlike the liberals BS of banning guns for everyone.


23 posted on 08/06/2013 8:49:38 AM PDT by calex59
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Because tougher gun laws worked so well for Chicago, D.C., Detroit, L.A. .......


24 posted on 08/06/2013 12:09:25 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Where's my pressure cooker backpack wmd ricin laced al qaeda terrorist BASSELOPE?)
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--yep--several posters didn't read it--

-(I only posted it because it is almost the direct opposite of what Barrett and Flynn have been preaching previously---)

25 posted on 08/06/2013 3:50:23 PM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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