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Ex-pope Benedict says God told him to resign during 'mystical experience'
The Guardian ^ | 8/21/2013 | Tim Klington

Posted on 08/21/2013 8:05:05 AM PDT by Vermont Lt

The former pope Benedict has claimed that his resignation in February was prompted by God, who told him to do it during a "mystical experience".

Breaking his silence for the first time since he became the first pope to step down in 600 years, the 86-year-old reportedly said: "God told me to" when asked what had pushed him to retire to a secluded residence in the Vatican gardens.

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To: .45 Long Colt
;-)


51 posted on 08/21/2013 1:01:38 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: .45 Long Colt

Everything a Calvinist says or does is an attack on the Master! I cannot be quiet while Calvinist spread their soul-destroying propaganda. Repent!


52 posted on 08/21/2013 1:21:55 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: pgyanke
I don't mean to be offensive with this... but there is no such thing as a "casual" Catholic. You either accept the identity and authority of the Church or you don't. "Casual" Catholicism gets us the Kennedy's, Kerry's and Pelosi's of the world.

So does that mean you have accepted Pope Francis' teaching to "not marginalize homosexuals but integrate them into society," in your mind, heart, words and actions?

Or is your treatment of this papal teaching more casual than that?

53 posted on 08/21/2013 2:50:46 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM
I’m not aware of murderers, rapists, child molesters etc. on this forum.

They are the ones that excerpt their own blogs.

Easy to spot.

54 posted on 08/21/2013 3:34:17 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: D-fendr

“The old truth that Calvin preached, that Augustine preached, that Paul preached, is the truth that I must preach to-day, or else be false to my conscience and my God. I cannot shape the truth; I know of no such thing as paring off the rough edges of a doctrine. John Knox’s gospel is my gospel. That which thundered through Scotland must thunder through England again.”—C. H. Spurgeon

I stand with the Apostle Paul, Augustine, John Knox and Charles Spurgeon! Calvinism is New Testament Christianity, nothing more, nothing less.


55 posted on 08/21/2013 3:36:11 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

While I am concerned about eternal souls, you’re posting cartoons? Clown all you want, these aren’t trivial matters to me.

As to the substance of your cartoon, I know what I know and I know WHO I know. My faith is in Christ alone, the Christ Jesus of the Bible. Your faith is in the unbiblical rituals of religion and an old fool most Catholics had never heard of before this year. Don’t let the joke be on you.

“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” (Ephesians 2:8-9)


56 posted on 08/21/2013 4:04:49 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

I cannot disagree. God can indeed speak to those who want to listen to Him. In a way that is unmistakable. If someone doubts that, he’s an atheist.


57 posted on 08/21/2013 4:36:06 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

If Christians, instead of attacking each other (what comes to mind especially is the vicious hatred towards Catholicism, I remember one incident when a statue of Mother Mary fell while in a procession in some South American country, and the glee that caused among some Catholic haters), but preached to atheists, what a different world it would be.

There are millions and billions of people with either no faith in God at all, or messed up faith in something they may think is “God” but is a creation of their own minds, or a wretched misunderstanding. For instance, thinking that “God” will be pleased by torturing and killing people for “Him”, etc.

The attacks in particular against the Catholic path disgust me because they are so extreme. If people used their energy to convince atheists of God’s existence, instead of attacking others who also worship God and accept the teachings and person of Jesus Christ - imagine how different things would be.

That is my position. I can see not one single good reason for such attacks and hatred, whether against Catholics or Protestants. Defending oneself is a different matter; if one’s faith is blasphemed, then it is a sacred duty to speak the truth. But since FR (and I guess other places, I don’t know or go to such places) has hammer and tongs hatefests in the religion forum, maybe if the people whose faith is being attacked just didn’t show up on the thread, the attacks would stop.

Just an idea.


58 posted on 08/21/2013 4:48:00 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: humblegunner
Ah, now it all makes sense. Thanks.
59 posted on 08/21/2013 6:13:21 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: .45 Long Colt

Some posts are so ridiculous, all one can do is post cartoons in response.


60 posted on 08/21/2013 6:14:21 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: glorgau

-— Yep, the Pope gets the exception on this one. It is called speaking “ex cathedra” - i.e infallible. -—

The doctrine doesn’t apply, since he is no longer the pope. Even if he was the pope, he wasn’t teaching regarding faith and morals, and he wasn’t invoking the charism of infallibility..

But I believe that he is telling the truth.


61 posted on 08/21/2013 6:21:31 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

Isaiah 5:21


62 posted on 08/21/2013 6:42:06 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: .45 Long Colt

May God bless you and enlighten you.


63 posted on 08/21/2013 8:02:00 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: DoughtyOne

I would think that it’s obvious that he was listening to God. Don’t we all try to discern God’s will in prayer and contemplation, regardless of our labels? Yes, I’m a Catholic, but I’d be shocked by any non-Catholic, church going Christian who wasn’t seeking God’s way.


64 posted on 08/21/2013 8:07:20 PM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: Talisker

We should treat all people with dignity as befitting their status as a child of God. Or are you saying that we should treat them with contempt?


65 posted on 08/21/2013 8:10:04 PM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: pgyanke

Anti Catholic bias? The Vatican bank is one of the most corrupt organizations in Italy, Europe, and perhaps in the world.

Even as I type this, I understand the disconnect between you and me. It is that you are looking at this Pope as the spiritual head of the church—leading the flock.

In this context, I am looking at him as the CEO of the Catholic Church Corporation.

Both of these jobs are the responsibility of the Bishop of Rome.

I do not think the religious/spiritual side of the church is corrupt. I think we can both agree that the “Church of Rome, Inc.” has some work to do.


66 posted on 08/22/2013 6:03:30 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Who will watch the watchers?)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

There’s lots of evils. And anti-Catholicism is one of the worst.

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Top 10 worst? Perhaps you can share the prioritized list of evils for all of our benefits.


67 posted on 08/22/2013 6:53:31 AM PDT by dmz
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To: dmz
See this post.

Thanks.

68 posted on 08/22/2013 7:10:24 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Patriotic1

I agree.


69 posted on 08/22/2013 3:08:37 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today, from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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