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Paglia: "It remains baffling how anyone would think that Hillary Clinton is our party’s best chance"
Salon ^ | Wednesday August 21, 2013 | By Tracy Clark-Flory

Posted on 08/21/2013 10:11:42 AM PDT by Bigtigermike

Full Title: Camille Paglia: “It remains baffling how anyone would think that Hillary Clinton is our party’s best chance”:

"As a registered Democrat, I am praying for a credible presidential candidate to emerge from the younger tier of politicians in their late 40s. A governor with executive experience would be ideal. It’s time to put my baby-boom generation out to pasture! We’ve had our day and managed to muck up a hell of a lot. It remains baffling how anyone would think that Hillary Clinton (born the same year as me) is our party’s best chance."

"She has more sooty baggage than a 90-car freight train. And what exactly has she ever accomplished — beyond bullishly covering for her philandering husband? She’s certainly busy, busy and ever on the move — with the tunnel-vision workaholism of someone trying to blot out uncomfortable private thoughts."

"I for one think it was a very big deal that our ambassador was murdered in Benghazi. In saying “I take responsibility” for it as secretary of state, Hillary should have resigned immediately. The weak response by the Obama administration to that tragedy has given a huge opening to Republicans in the next presidential election. The impression has been amply given that Benghazi was treated as a public relations matter to massage rather than as the major and outrageous attack on the U.S. that it was."

"Throughout history, ambassadors have always been symbolic incarnations of the sovereignty of their nations and the dignity of their leaders. It’s even a key motif in “King Lear.” As far as I’m concerned, Hillary disqualified herself for the presidency in that fist-pounding moment at a congressional hearing when she said, “What difference does it make what we knew and when we knew it, Senator?”

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KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016demprimary; benghazi; democrats; hillary2016; hillaryclinton; paglia
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I don't agree with everything she Believes in but when she nails it, she nails it big time! Succinctly!
1 posted on 08/21/2013 10:11:42 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

It remains baffling how the GOP once thought the Bushes, McCain and then Romney were our best candidates!


2 posted on 08/21/2013 10:14:11 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: Bigtigermike

Not about best, Ms. Pablo’s. Hillary is a STAR. That’s all that matters. .


3 posted on 08/21/2013 10:14:15 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Bigtigermike

She better start driving a classic car.....

Just sayin...


4 posted on 08/21/2013 10:14:26 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Bigtigermike
It’s time to put my baby-boom generation out to pasture! We’ve had our day and managed to muck up a hell of a lot.

I agree..........I'm a Boomer as well............

5 posted on 08/21/2013 10:14:41 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: Bigtigermike

Republicans should ask politely for a Hillary Clinton 2016 Candidacy with a smirk. Get ‘em guessing.


6 posted on 08/21/2013 10:14:48 AM PDT by griswold3
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To: Bigtigermike
I'm fervently hoping for her to be the Dem nominee.
7 posted on 08/21/2013 10:14:56 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Bigtigermike

Not the slightest bit baffling, Camille.

All we need do is realize that the Democratic Party’s real intention is to b*gger the United States as badly as possible, and, voila!, Hillary Clinton explained.


8 posted on 08/21/2013 10:15:01 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Red Badger

I like here comments on the feminist movement killing itself as well - they politicized it by only attacking conservative and letting dem’s have a pass on their attack on women.


9 posted on 08/21/2013 10:15:55 AM PDT by edcoil ("Thoughts become things - Think good ones")
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To: Bigtigermike

But ,..its Hillary's turn !!

See how that turned out with the GOPe in 2012!!
Bwahahahahaha!

10 posted on 08/21/2013 10:16:20 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: GraceG

CIA still couldn’t kill Dick Van Dyke- he’s unkillable like Chuck Norris.


11 posted on 08/21/2013 10:20:28 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Durus

Camille Paglia is one of my favorite liberals. Not only is she capable of original thought, she’s funny too. A sense of humor and original thought are two qualities sorely lacking in modern liberals.


12 posted on 08/21/2013 10:20:45 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Bigtigermike
And what exactly has she ever accomplished — beyond bullishly covering for her philandering husband? She’s certainly busy, busy and ever on the move — with the tunnel-vision workaholism of someone trying to blot out uncomfortable private thoughts.

Bingo!

13 posted on 08/21/2013 10:21:53 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Bigtigermike

I agree with a few things Camille Paglia says and I think that she’s out to lunch on a lot of the rest. But she does appear to try to bring some kind of moral perspective (even if it’s often rather skewed) towards both art and contemporary events, and she’s a good writer.

I personally think the Hillary moment came and went quite some time ago. She was a weak and almost ridiculous SOS, she had never held any elected office until she carpet-bagged her way into NY, and her performance has been extremely undistinguished in any position she has occupied. She also has a grating and unpleasant public persona.

I don’t know why the GOP is so afraid of her as the Dem nominee. First of all, she’s not going to be the Dem nominee, because even the Dems realize that she’s done; secondly, she’d lose disastrously.

The Dems are going to have to run another black person. Frankly, I think Michelle is waiting in the wings.


14 posted on 08/21/2013 10:22:23 AM PDT by livius
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To: Bigtigermike
Her epic FAILURES:

1) Russian 'reset' ('Reset' button translated to 'OVERLOADED/OVERCHARGED' instead of 'RESET')

2) Benghazi (She's responsible for the security vulnerability that caused the death of four Americans)

3) Egypt (Supporting pro-Sharia Morsi & Muslim Brotherhood AGAINST American interests, Israel and Egyptian popular opinion)

15 posted on 08/21/2013 10:23:17 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Bigtigermike

Well, what does she propose? You can’t beat somebody with nobody. Who are the prominent Democrat senators and governors who could win the nomination? The only one I can think of is Andrew Cuomo, who may well get traction.


16 posted on 08/21/2013 10:23:25 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: Bigtigermike
As a registered Democrat...

Camille's problem is she wants to pose as a fundamentally decent human being after signing on with the party of tyranny. She's as dirty as any member of the German National Socialist Party, but needs to believe she's different.

The day of reckoning is on its way. It's not going to be a joyful day.

17 posted on 08/21/2013 10:24:07 AM PDT by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: Bigtigermike
"She has more sooty baggage than a 90-car freight train.

And what exactly has she ever accomplished?

"I for one think it was a very big deal that our ambassador was murdered in Benghazi. In saying “I take responsibility” for it as secretary of state, Hillary should have resigned immediately.

Oh dammit, Camille! Come on! At this point ... What difference does it make?!

18 posted on 08/21/2013 10:25:47 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Standing Wolf
Camille's problem is she wants to pose as a fundamentally decent human being after signing on with the party of tyranny. She's as dirty as any member of the German National Socialist Party, but needs to believe she's different.

OUCH!

Truth BUMP.

"First they came for...."

19 posted on 08/21/2013 10:26:34 AM PDT by USS Johnston (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. ~ Edmund Burke)
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To: livius
Stevens, Doherty, Woods and Smith would ALL be alive today had Hillary ordered Stevens to NOT BE IN BENGHAZI on 9/11, AND if she would've honored Stevens request for additional security rather than reject his requests.

Yes, 0bama's handling of Benghazi was criminal, but it's HILLARY who set Americans up to be slaughtered there.

20 posted on 08/21/2013 10:26:41 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: AtlasStalled

“It remains baffling how the GOP once thought the Bushes, McCain and then Romney were our best candidates!....”

MaCain was never a good candidate. GWB and Mitt were at least qualified through successful governoships &/or business experience.

The conservative ideology of any candidate is still the best measure of a candidate’s worth. We need to insist on a candidate who not only believes in conservatism but who is willing to go out and promote good old fashioned American priciples: liberty & justice for all; justice is blind; Big government must be tamed and reduced; taxes must be fair; wealth belongs first to the worker who earned it. First and second amendments are not debatable; religious liberty and free speech go together under the First Amendment; The right to own and bear arms pertains to individual liberty and not to any government militia. The economy must be free to practice capitalism, promoting excellence and entrepreneurs, etc.

I could go on, but you get my point.


21 posted on 08/21/2013 10:28:18 AM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: AtlasStalled

We seem to have a media-driven system of selecting presidential candidates that seems designed to winnow out any really qualified person.


22 posted on 08/21/2013 10:28:33 AM PDT by henkster (The 0bama regime isn't a train wreck, it's a B 17 raid on the rail yard.)
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To: livius

“I don’t know why the GOP is so afraid of her as the Dem nominee. First of all, she’s not going to be the Dem nominee, because even the Dems realize that she’s done; secondly, she’d lose disastrously.”

I have an idiot neighbor who thinks hillary is so wonderful. She can’t wait to vote for her because, well, she’s great — at what, I have no idea.


23 posted on 08/21/2013 10:28:47 AM PDT by Londo Molari
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To: AtlasStalled

By the same token, when you consider those Republicans who ran in the primaries, and lost, it’s not so baffling after all.


24 posted on 08/21/2013 10:29:12 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Bigtigermike
It is high time to put the old leftist nag out to pasture.

My sincere apologies to the nag on the right.

25 posted on 08/21/2013 10:30:28 AM PDT by Slyfox (Without the Right to Life, all other rights are meaningless.)
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To: Bigtigermike
For those not aware, Here's Mr. Camille Paglia.


26 posted on 08/21/2013 10:30:47 AM PDT by TexasCajun (Creepy-Ass Cracka -- Don't Call Me Cracker)
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To: Bigtigermike

Paglia is right from a logical standpoint. But this isn’t about logic. It’s about having an all powerful national government with a permanent ruling class. Hillary most likely will win considering how bad the GOP is at nominating their own ruling class representatives.


27 posted on 08/21/2013 10:31:03 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: livius

“I don’t know why the GOP is so afraid of her as the Dem nominee.”

Because the low information voters could give a hoot about her record or past. She is a true believing progressive woman and deserves to be at the top of the ticket.


28 posted on 08/21/2013 10:31:19 AM PDT by animal172 (My new hero....Trey Gowdy)
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To: AtlasStalled
It remains baffling how the GOP once thought the Bushes, McCain and then Romney were our best candidates!

Not when they weren't "our" choices to begin with. Toss Bob Dole into that steaming pile of Vichy "Republicans" and patsies.

It's beyond time to expose and indict the RNC-GOPe as Trojan Horse traitors and collaborators to the Republican Party AND America.

29 posted on 08/21/2013 10:31:33 AM PDT by USS Johnston (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. ~ Edmund Burke)
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To: Bigtigermike
And what exactly has she ever accomplished — beyond bullishly covering for her philandering husband?

Exactly! Hillary Clinton is the biggest screwup ever. Other than her skillful lying under oath what has she ever done that wasn't turned into a huge flustercluck?

30 posted on 08/21/2013 10:32:37 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: livius
I don’t know why the GOP is so afraid of her as the Dem nominee. First of all, she’s not going to be the Dem nominee, because even the Dems realize that she’s done; secondly, she’d lose disastrously.

Agree, and especially becuase she has none of Bill's charisma and political skill (I couldn't stand the guy, but he did have political skill).

For some reason, my money is on the Castro guy from TX that spoke at last year's Rat convention.

31 posted on 08/21/2013 10:37:17 AM PDT by Marathoner (Sarah Palin is our Esther, for such a time as this)
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To: proxy_user

Cuomo will be as popular in the west and mid-west as a boxcar full of cattle with mad cow disease. Christie has the same problem.


32 posted on 08/21/2013 10:38:38 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: TigersEye

Bookmark


33 posted on 08/21/2013 10:40:24 AM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: Bigtigermike
“What difference does it make what we knew and when we knew it, Senator?”

It will make a great ad for whomever her opponents are.
34 posted on 08/21/2013 10:44:50 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Bigtigermike
There are (were) only 2 "liberals" I respected. The late Christopher Hitchens and Camile Paglia. While I strongly disagree with many, if not most of their views, they hold to their principals and were capable of reason.

Mark

35 posted on 08/21/2013 10:47:52 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: livius; GeorgeWashingtonsGhost; Standing Wolf; Bigtigermike
She Who Must Not Be Named is the most ruthless woman ever to stalk the halls of power. Never forget that she was, and is, a student of Saul Alinsky. She has used the Rules for Radicals extensively in clawing her way to the top.

Her ultimate goal has always been the Oval Office. When her legal career was thwarted after Watergate, she married into power, using William the Impeached as a stepping stone. Her boast of being “Co-President” was not idle hubris.

She then used the NY Senate seat as another springboard to power but was foiled again, this time by the Chicago Machine, who had already chosen Odinga to carry the party banner.

Examine her personality. She has the need to dominate. It’s not enough that her subjects obey her commands; they must be forced to obey against their will, or the needed gratification is not derived.

She is a compulsive liar. She is a consummate fraud. She is most likely a lesbian with a deep-seeded hatred of the men who, in her mind, deny her her rightful place in history. Never again must she be allowed to approach the levers of authority, for that day will spell the doom of the Republic.

36 posted on 08/21/2013 10:50:06 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Opinions are like orgasms: only mine count, and I couldn't care less if you have one...)
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To: TexasCajun
Carl Sagan-esque.


37 posted on 08/21/2013 10:50:51 AM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: Old Sarge
bump to that!

Everyone should memorize what you've said about Hillary in that post and realize that it's a smack dead center bullseye of a critique.

38 posted on 08/21/2013 10:54:48 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Democratic Party = “Vote for the most entertaining candidate!”


39 posted on 08/21/2013 10:54:56 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: Bigtigermike
Paglia: "It remains baffling how anyone would think that Hillary Clinton is our party’s best chance"

Paglia now knows what it feels like to be a Republican (Dole, McCain, Romney...)

40 posted on 08/21/2013 10:55:55 AM PDT by kevkrom (It's not "immigration reform", it's an "amnesty bill". Take back the language!)
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To: MarkL

she is a hoot. IIRC at one of the dinners years ago they put her with rush expecting fireworks. they got along great. my only comment would be i bet no one else at the table could get a word in.


41 posted on 08/21/2013 10:57:26 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government should fear us.)
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To: TigersEye

Thank you, TE.

I have observed this woman since the days of Gennifer Flowers. I know Her personality type all too well.

And I dread the idea of having Her claws near the nuclear codes.


42 posted on 08/21/2013 11:00:58 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Opinions are like orgasms: only mine count, and I couldn't care less if you have one...)
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To: Bigtigermike

It’s easy for me to see how. Theys dun seens’ hu on da tv


43 posted on 08/21/2013 11:05:30 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Old Sarge
Hillary Clinton's college these on Saul Alinsky, 1969:

An Analysis of the Alinsky Model, by Hillary D. Rodham

44 posted on 08/21/2013 11:09:57 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Bigtigermike

Hillary’s like Obama. Scrape the bottom of the barrel or clean off the soles of your shoes.

The Republicrats, with the exception of Sarah Palin, are in the same boat.

Rescue America, third party, and get moving quickly!


45 posted on 08/21/2013 11:11:37 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Old Sarge

Same here. Both Hussein and Hillary are sociopaths. Hussein is a pathological narcissist type ie. “I love myself so much there’s nothing left to care about anyone else.” Hillary is more in the mold of a psychopath like Stalin or Himmler. She is not so concerned about personal affronts like the Boy WONder is but get in the way of her power and ambition and the long knives come out.


46 posted on 08/21/2013 11:22:51 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: Bigtigermike; Mickey; flaglady47; pax_et_bonum; seenenuf; seekthetruth; ExTexasRedhead; ken5050; ...
"I don't agree with everything she says but she's my favorite liberal".....hah, and barf. I've been reading this favorite disclaimer on FR for fifteen years. Disgusting.

Paglia is just as dirty as Obama, Hitlery and the Democrats.

She's just like Obama who distances himself from his destructive policies by going on the national stump trail to actually speechify AGAINST his own destructive policies.

Paglia is of the same ilk.

She is so high-and-mighty and virginal when it comes to her personal dislike of Hillary....but still, she refers to the Dem's as HER Party, even though HER party is evil and actively participating WITH OBAMA (and Hillary) in the destruction of our country.

This is more than hypocracy on Paglia's part.

It's the snobbism, the elitism, the snooty-ism, the know-it-all academia-ism, the misguided emotionalism, the misplaced idealism, the cultism of leftist hags like Paglia who, like a dog, deposits her steaming marxist business on her reading public, then when it suits her to obfuscate her hypocracy, like a dog she turns around and scratches to cover it up.

Leni

47 posted on 08/21/2013 11:38:20 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: MinuteGal

Yup....she’s a sloppy, lazy, disjointed thinker. She came along when PC was blazing in the early 90s & threw a few bones to conservatives. She’a a mile wide & an inch deep. I’ve talked to her several times for extended periods & came away shaking my head at her inability to get it.


48 posted on 08/21/2013 11:44:29 AM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: Bigtigermike

It remains baffling to me how she can be against Hillary and not understand it’s Hillary’s principles and actions that define Paglia’s beloved demonrat party.


49 posted on 08/21/2013 11:46:44 AM PDT by Lakeshark (KILL THE BILL! CALL. FAX. WRITE)
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To: animal172

The low information voter only cares about the personal connection, and frankly, she can’t make that connection.

Bill Clinton was an odious human being and a very unpleasant politician, but he was good at the “feel your pain” thing and connected with the low information crowd.

Hillary won’t be able to do that. The only group who will like her a lot, I believe, are older female academics and maybe a few confused Muslims or other non-Hispanic immigrants. I don’t even think she’s likely to get the black vote, which is crucial to the Dems because while it is very small numerically, it exercises a lot of power because of the gerrymandering of districts to accommodate it.


50 posted on 08/21/2013 11:48:49 AM PDT by livius
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