Posted on 08/23/2013 7:55:15 AM PDT by chessplayer
If slavery is still keeping folks down how does he explain all the black Americans who have succeeded? Did whitey give them all a hand up to their jobs? Does he think blacks are not smart enough or driven enough to succeed on their own?
“Neblett on Wednesday had some things to say about the black unemployment rate both nationally and in specific parts of the country.
Follower MojoMoe retweeted one saying “Blame slavery.”
I actually agree, but from a different perspective. By passing Obamacare, the federal government has transferred ownership of my phyical being from me to the multitude of federal agencies. Therefore, we have all been enslaved by the first black President and this is discouraging employers in all sectors of the economy....
You make a hell of a point. Unless the war wasn't over slavery.....
He may have something here. Several of my ancestors fought so that his ancestors could be free. So if I am ever out of work, do I get to perch on his lawn until he provides me with a “living wage”?
Remember this story?
[Minnesota Vikings Running Back Adrian] Peterson compares NFL labor to slavery
I swear the reason you can no longer have a rational discourse with most people is that slowly and deliberately critical thinking skills have been removed from education and society.
“kad the founders had the good sense not to impose such a morally bankrupt notion as slavery,”
The founders did not IMPOSE slavery on the nation. They knew it was immoral, but they did recognize that if they completely resolved slavery then there would be no “United States.” Instead, they DID create a country and provide tools that would allow for it to be addressed by future generations.
Would slavery have been eliminated without a United States?
Reparations for slavery?
When a black woman is one of the richest people in America?
When a black man was Secretary of State??
When a black woman was Secretary of State?
When black men have sat — and do sit — on the Supreme Court??
When a black would-be despot sits in the White House?????
When countless black men have risen to the top of the ranks of the richest in professional sports and show business?? Men like Hank Aaron. Men like Bill Cosby who... (Never mind. As we all know, Bill’s either an Uncle Tom or Oreo Cookie, depending on which black race pimp you listen to.)
And, how about Liberation Theology?
Liberation from WHAT? The chance to achieve and succeed??
Give me a break!!
Let me make it clear right up front: I am NOT a racist. I supported Herman Cain in his run for the Senate and supported him in his run for the WH. And if Allen West goes for it, he, too, has my support.
I also consider Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams two of the finest economists and minds extant today. In case you don’t know them, both are black.
Sowell, Williams and Cain – among others — have spoken out against those fellow blacks who castigate and vilify America for a slave system now long in our past. And ALL thinking men and women oppose the periodic calls for reparations. (When he ran, I supported Alan Keyes. I even spoke in his stead on the RTKABA at a Capitol rally and was asked to fill in for him on his radio show at the time. Sadly, while I still consider Alan a good man, I have had to rethink my support since he came out FOR reparations.)
The fact is that the modern descendants of slaves brought here in chains in admittedly miserable, soul-gutting conditions now calling for reparations need to remember something:
They should not only be glad to be in America, they should be glad to be ANYWHERE!
Had their ancestors NOT been brought OUT of Africa – many by Muslim slave raiders —the blood of those ancestors would have run into the earth over there several centuries ago, victims of the OTHER black tribes that captured them in one of the interminable tribal conflicts STILL ravaging that sad continent and these modern day would-be “plaintiffs” would not even exist.
And I would remind you that slavery is STILL practiced in parts of Africa (mainly by – American BLACK muslims LISTEN UP!! — MUSLIMS) and Asia today. How ironic that disgruntled American blacks are embracing a system that participated mightily in their initial bondage – and would, if Islam takes root here, probably put any who cling to their Christianity back INTO BONDAGE – or to the sword. In fact, as the majority of muslims consider black folks as “sub-human”, many of you black muzzies will get the axe.
95% of the African slaves who were transported across the Atlantic went to South and Central America, mainly to Portuguese, Spanish and French possessions, and that less than 5% of the slaves who crossed the Atlantic went to the United States, it was remarkable that the vast majority of academic research, films, books and articles concerning the slave trade concentrated only on the American involvement, as though slavery was a uniquely American aberration.
And should the great-great-great grandchildren of SLAVE OWNING BLACKS also be subject to PAYING these reparations? If so, how do we find THEM?
And I have traced MY family back to the SLAVS. Although the term looks to be related to “slave”, depending on your source, it either means “glory” or “worshipper.” But my family research indicates that many of my of my ancestors LIVED lives of virtual slavery to some despot or other. Do I qualify for reparations? From whom?? And it begs a question: Are most of us now living here headed into a modern form of that servitude? But that’s a topic for another discussion.
The official US Census of 1830 lists 3,775 free blacks who owned 12,740 black slaves. Furthermore, the story outlines the history of slavery here, and the first slave owner, the Father of American slavery, was Mr. Anthony Johnson, of Northampton, Virginia. His slave was John Casor, the first slave for life. Both were black Africans. The story is very readable, and outlines cases of free black women owning their husbands, free black parents selling their children into slavery to white owners, and absentee free black slave owners, who leased their slaves to plantation owners.
-”Selling Poor Steven”, American Heritage Magazine, Feb/Mar 1993 (Vol. 441) p 90
Of course, a full telling of Black History would not be complete without a recitation of the origin of slavery in the Virginia colony:
Virginia, Guide to The Old Dominion, WPA Writers’ Program, Oxford University Press, NY, 1940, p. 378
A few more salient points on the subject:
Until the US declared independence, the Colonies were REQUIRED by the King of England to embrace slavery.
The Northwest Ordinance (1789) prohibited slavery in federal territories.
A law prohibiting the importation of slaves into the US became effective in 1808.
Beginning in 1820, the Democratic Congress started passing laws allowing and encouraging slavery.
It was only after the Republican Party (many of whom were southern Blacks) was formed some 40 years later that the anti-slavery movement was able to move forward.
And the holier-than-thou Northern liberals are strangely silent on recent archeological evidence from NEW YORK CITY clearly tracing the financing of the slave trade to NORTHERN BUSINESSMEN!!
At the height of his remarkable boxing career, Muhammad Ali (born Cassius Clay), once declared, “I’m glad my great-grandpa got on that boat.”
And speaking of ancestors, my paternal grandmother’s daddy joined with the 80th Ohio Volunteer Infantry early in the War Between the States (re-upped twice) and fought on the Union side at Chickamauga, Vicksburg, Jackson then joined up with Sherman for that infamous march to the sea through Georgia. My wife’s great grandpappy ALSO fought for the Union. While I revere the memory of my ancestors, inasmuch as that conflict was less about slavery than it was the economic exploitation and abuse of the South by the North, I fear they MAY have been on the wrong side.
Author Robert Hitt Neill tells of attending a Tennessee Mountain Writer’s Conference years ago with several other authors. Among them was Alex Hailey, celebrated author of “Roots.” Watching a TV news show, a group of them watched a demonstration in a Southern state against the “Rebel” flag incorporated into that state’s flag. The very next report covered a famine in Africa. Graphic images showed dead bodies, starving children with distended tummies and runny noses and dying people covered with flies, too weak to brush them away.
Mr. Hailey intoned in a low, serious voice, “Every time an American black sees a story like that, they should find a Confederate flag and kiss it.” He then pointed to the TV screen and continued, “Because these would be me and my descendants, except for American slavery. I thank God that my family and I are here instead of there.”
Next problem!
Dick Bachert (Original created circa 2008 with edits/additions as required)
(Please feel free to use this little essay in whole or in part so long as attribution is extended to the author.. I may require some notice to permit me to enhance security here.)
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Got this email from a fellow Freeper:
From BTCM | 01/08/2013 4:21:57 AM PST replied
Thank you for an intelligent post. Locally we had one of the largest slave holding families in Virgina. The Jones family was a wealthy black family whose main product was breeding an selling slaves. When the local mullet wrapper paper printed the historical story a few years back, I thought the local NAACP was going to burn down their building.
It (slavery) was a probably the flint that sparked the tender, but there were other issues of course. The rise of the middle class and the industrialist class in the north was making the agrarian south less and less economically relevant. The influx of new citizens by both natural increase and emigration greatly favored the free states thus the power of the slave states in the House of Reps was in decline (only the 3/5ths compromise kept the south even marginally relevant in the House) The senate was kept frozen slave / free by way of the Compromise of 1850.
(had not kad..sorry about that)
Actually before of the Civil war the worlds true super power had (The United Kingdom )decided to end as much as was possible the African slave trade.
To American credit there was an attempt to aid them in this cause and laws made ships sent.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade_of_Africa
This of course is in all likelihood the read the reason the CSA ended IMPORTATION of slaves from Africa as the British blockade being run by CSA flagged ship would not aid in the hope of the CSA to be recognized by the Crown.
My plan would force no person to be sterilized. Only if they asked for gov. aid. Why should my and your tax dollars keep on supporting people who use welfare as a lifestyle and pop out kids like a pez dispenser. All these welfare mothers do is create more uneducated, violent morons who drain billions of tax dollars and cause mountainous levels of crime. Something has to be done.
1) lack of knowledge, skills, and experience due to their own personal anti-success attitudes and their own personal decisions to avoid learning and developing what is necessary to gain the necessary qualifications
2) lack of a free market in labor with unions and minimum wage laws causing wages at the low end to be too high in relation to the demand for labor.
That sir is a small carrot and a very big stick.
Again I agree on the problem, the safety net has become a net. I disagree with your solution.
At some point in history.... We were all slaves, black, white, yellow,Christian, Jewish,.... Well, Muslims still believe in slavery.
Also, to blame only the mothers is myopic.
The FATHERS that let the people pay for there children as as much or more to blame. IMHO. That the system makes NO ATTEMPT or so little as to be laughable to make these “fathers” take responsibly is also a travesty
They are of course not alone.. but it is something that needs to be brought up OFTEN when the apologists of Mohammedanism speak of how civilized they are.
A lot led up to the end of slavery and I was only addressing your original point. The founders of the US did not IMPOSE slavery on the country. They recognized that it was immoral and sinful, however they also recognized that the Constitution would not be adopted by all of the colonies if they addressed it immediately. However, they did present a constitution for adoption that provided the tools to future generations to resolve slavery.
Slavery existed long before the founders and although they were uniquely suited to the founding of the United States, they could not solve all evils in one fell swoop.
But for some reason relevant enough to go to war over.
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