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HOUSE GOP LEADER: DEFUNDING OBAMACARE 'NOT REALISTIC'
Breitbart ^ | Aug 24, 2013 | By Mike Flynn

Posted on 08/24/2013 10:04:25 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers, number 4 in House GOP Leadership, said the effort by conservatives to defund ObamaCare is "not realistic." She advocated a piece-meal approach to repeal, delay or defund individual provisions of the sweeping health care overhaul. The debate will likely dominate discussions within the Republican caucus when Congress returns next month.

“To get the entire bill repealed, or defunded, is probably not realistic,” McMorris Rodgers said. “But I do think there are provisions in the law that we can get delayed, or provisions in the law we can get defunded.”

The government's spending authority expires on September 30th. To avoid a government shutdown, Congress must pass a continuing resolution authorizing continued spending. Many conservatives, led by Sens. Mike Lee and Ted Cruz, want Republicans to strip spending for ObamaCare out of this continuing resolution.

Eighty House Republicans sent a letter to House Speaker Boehner on Thursday endorsing this plan. More moderate Republicans, however, are worried that such a move would garner a veto of the continuing resolution from Obama and lead to a government shutdown. Party leaders are concerned that they would be blamed for any shutdown.

GOP Leaders seem to be galvanizing around a plan to delay by a year the implementation of ObamaCare. “The delays the administration has been forced to implement in the healthcare law have given us a golden opportunity to talk about fairness," Boehner said Thursday, according to The Hill. "‘If big business gets relief from the president's healthcare law, families and small businesses should, too.’ This message strikes a chord with Americans. When people hear it, it resonates.”

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KEYWORDS: cowards; defund; delay; elections; gope; obama; obamacare; romneyagenda; romneycare; romneycare4all; romneycare4ever
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To: usconservative

“Since there’s realistically not a dimes worth of difference between the R’s and D’s, wouldn’t it really be a second party?”

Yes.

As Michael Savage says let’s just have an opposition party


51 posted on 08/24/2013 10:34:37 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: BigSkyFreeper
I heard Rush mention it, I read it on The Blaze, I heard Mark Levin report it, it was in the Washington Post, the LA Times and the Associated Press.

I work during the day so I don't get to listen to Rush. The Blaze? Please ... Glen Beck's nothing more than a useful idiot. Newspapers? Really? A few reported it? Color me shocked. It probably got what, three sentences on p. 64 in the "lifestyles" section.

(I'm just that skeptical of the media. Hate 'em all.)

52 posted on 08/24/2013 10:35:38 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: All

53 posted on 08/24/2013 10:37:52 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: Jim Robinson
She advocated a piece-meal approach to repeal, delay or defund individual provisions of the sweeping health care overhaul.

I must be dumb, but the above says that they can defund pieces of it, so, simple question....if it works for pieces, why doesn't it work for the whole?

Defunding is defunding...right?

54 posted on 08/24/2013 10:38:33 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
You can't do that.

The tragedy of low expectations...

No one ever told Hussein YOU CAN'T DO THAT!!! ---- and made it stick.

55 posted on 08/24/2013 10:38:48 AM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
"I’d love to know what’s in those FBI files that’s been accumulating on Republicans since Hillary was co-president."

Everything. The entire spectrum of human failings. Like savings bonds. The longer held, the greater they mature.
56 posted on 08/24/2013 10:40:03 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Jim Robinson

Does the liberal republican from Ohio want to defund anything? If not, the why is he a Republican?

John Boehner is a moderate Democrat pure and simple.


57 posted on 08/24/2013 10:40:34 AM PDT by o2bfree (Lindsey Graham is left of South Carolina.)
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To: Jim Robinson

They won’t even throw us a bone. :(


58 posted on 08/24/2013 10:40:36 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Jim Robinson

We will never win with losers like Boehner in the leadership.

He is the first thing that needs to go.


59 posted on 08/24/2013 10:41:49 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: xzins

More power to play with a piece against a time. Leverage...

...to keep you voting GOP. “We’ll kill this part for now...we promise...”


60 posted on 08/24/2013 10:42:12 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Jim Robinson

The US Congress —and their staff and Islam
are not under ObamaCARE/ROMNEYcare anyway,
so they do not care.

Also, it is called RomneyCARE because it was
imposed by the GOP (just like gay marriage)
and by Mr.Willard Romney, himself.


61 posted on 08/24/2013 10:44:06 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Norm Lenhart
We have a short time to make a collective decision. Lesser evil with the GOP that gets us Obamacare and Amnesty...

Please go away!
Join the criminals that actually get things done (legally, Constitutionally, or otherwise) !

62 posted on 08/24/2013 10:46:00 AM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim, Jim, Jim...you must try to stop sugar coating how you really feel about this.


63 posted on 08/24/2013 10:46:38 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”- Voltaire)
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To: Jim Robinson

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2013/aug/22/lawmaker-faces-impassioned-crowd/

She’s a silver tongued RINO, Jim.


64 posted on 08/24/2013 10:47:02 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
E: "Those [FBI] files are not just on politicians. They have plenty of leverage on the media, too." That's a very good point.

They don't really need FBI files - The clown admin just threatens the press with loss of access to the WH press events.
65 posted on 08/24/2013 10:49:24 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: xzins
I must be dumb, but the above says that they can defund pieces of it, so, simple question....if it works for pieces, why doesn't it work for the whole?

Exactly.

Further, aren't the only pieces that the Democrats would agree to delay or defund, the pieces they want to delay or defund? The ones that may make them pay a political price?

Seems to me the two best ways to kill the monster are:

a. Smother the whole damn thing in the crib.

b. Or let it happen...without any sugar-coating. Let it wreak its havoc on the economy...and prove impossible to administer and ghastly to experience. Then repeal it...like the 18th Amendment (only quicker).

66 posted on 08/24/2013 10:52:44 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Cheerio
The clown admin just threatens the press with loss of access to the WH press events.

And how useful is that?
I find it bizarre that anyone would get on their knees and beg to be fed pure, unadulterated BS lies and propaganda.

67 posted on 08/24/2013 10:54:31 AM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: Jim Robinson

The Republicans did not vote for this monstrosity of a bill. Why then should they vote to fund it?


68 posted on 08/24/2013 10:56:00 AM PDT by NotTallTex
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To: publius911

And so one appears.


69 posted on 08/24/2013 10:56:03 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: xzins; onyx; trisham; TheOldLady; DJ MacWoW; RedMDer; musicman; Lady Jag; Alamo-Girl; bd476; ...

The Republicans hold the majority power in the congress and there’s absolutely no reason whatsoever for them not to use it. They’d have all the Republicans behind them, all of the tea party people behind them, and the majority of all American citizens behind them. Very few working citizens or retired folks who have worked all their lives are in favor of fascist/communism. Not even the unions. And that’s exactly what Obama’s pushing here. Fascist/communism!!

Congress do your duty!! Do what you were elected to do!!

Now is the time to strike!!

Do NOT piss it away!!


70 posted on 08/24/2013 10:58:23 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Some people have no concept that caving in to the Obama programs is just the other side of the coin for losing any determination of government.


71 posted on 08/24/2013 11:00:22 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: EternalVigilance

The effort by conservatives to defund ObamaCare is “not realistic.”

Are you freaking kidding me?? We need to get rid of ALL of these RINOs in 2014 — starting with Boehner!!


72 posted on 08/24/2013 11:00:49 AM PDT by Polyxene (Out of the depths I have cried to Thee, O Lord; Lord, hear my voice.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim Rob— my apologies for this blog-rant. I hope someone with guts will listen/discuss and take action. Thank you for your post, Jim:

NO, boner....funding the DELAY will allow the reality of single payer as the “last resort” plan (their true goal) to come true in 2016 (and elect hillary Lol). The delay of corporate mandate was a democrat play— an admission of failure (but part of the plan). “Fairness”? What, Boehner- you still on the lost battle of a DELAY for the individual mandate? Idiot. Defund the process— it dies. Keep funding it— it morphs into a massive indestructible morass of absolute socialist crap.

The fact is that obamaumaocare was designed from the first to fail- a cloward-piven intentional screw up, of a massive but functional existing system in need of reform. A plan to destroy it by overwhelming it with forced rules, regs and mandates that cannot be supported. That has been the plan.

Enter the insurer of last resort— the exchanges, the competing subsidized saviour govt. The go along get along GOP thinks they can game this? Idiots— they are caddies to the main players. All it takes is guts— stop this— stop funding with money we do not have. Stop playing to the same “EBT, on the dole” electorate that will not vote for you anyway— they don’t know anything, so educate them what it means. Talk to Sarah speak in language regular people understand.

If the GOP gives the dems the delay.. they aren’t going to be talking about fairness (can you hear the suddenly waking up insurance industry lobby, who now is just realizing they are having to double and quadruple their rates as the risk pool enrollment dries up in competition with the lower rate govt. payor, thereby becoming obsolete— and are now covering their asses lobbying the GOP with this “negotiable” non argument?). The dems don’t give a rat’s about fairness. Again, these bozos accept the dem agenda and then REACT. The country is 60% against this, even with 30% still saying they “approve” of obamaumaocare (”approve” being a meaningless uninformed term of art in a poll).

No, funding the “Delay” means implementation and empowerment of the ever tipping weight of the federal bureaucracy. In 2014 the few small business and individuals who are not in a large corp. which now have another year, must by mandate insure themselves, and report this to the IRS. You idiot GOP-e continue to fund the IRS to do this task (no doubt out of the FEAR of the IRS that was designed to do this vs. patriots and the GOP-e)and you will continue the plan. It means single payer, the ultimate goal. Along the way, disruption of quality care- a population in disarray, the IRS used as gestapo for population control and much else.

A returning million plus veterans (well maybe not if Syria can be ginned up) from the middle east added into the mix and pre-targeted one could say. Many pro obamaaus are in for a rude awakening (unless they can snag obamaumaocare jobs).

It is ALL part of the fabric of this plan, Boehner. And you—Boehner— are a tool. We need brave patriots, not tools. The insurance industry needs some balls, at the very least.

Want to know a clue, that the dems are desperate in reality (unless they can get Boehner’s idiots in line and co-opted)? It is Sebelius saying “pass immigration so we can increase enrollment”. Appalling— undocumenteds instantly then would be numerically enrolled, just like they illegally vote for candidates. This is a numbers game— these racketeers. Even the UNIONS know this is the scam played on them (See: UPS decision)- the ultimate democrat constituency. So now idiot Boehner is playing into their hands, as a chicken crap “how can I keep my office”, burrowed in like a tick owned officeholder. A Bob Michel of this day, traffic cop on the road to serfdom.

Never forget— it’s fundamental marxist transformation, with graft and Detroit as the endpoint reality.


73 posted on 08/24/2013 11:01:15 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Black Agnes
Rush is a member of at least one international organization (either CRF or Trilateral) that supports the NAU.

Excuse me. But that strikes me as an absurd assertion.

I'd appreciate some proof of claim...

74 posted on 08/24/2013 11:02:16 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Jim Robinson
The GOP-e is playing with fire and I bet trying to keep Obama care as an issue for the 2016 elections. In the meantime they are destroying our Country by funding the tyrannical law.

Defund it now or get out!

75 posted on 08/24/2013 11:02:17 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: Jim Robinson

THere is no opposition. That is our real problem. Devils will be devils. But there is no one opposing them. For some reason they don’t want to win. Bribed? Blackmailed? Don’t want to upset the gravy train? Just plain chickens*** cowards?


76 posted on 08/24/2013 11:05:16 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: AtlasStalled
I want a third party.

CALLING SARAH PALIN TO A YELLOW COURTESY PHONE....

There would never ever be a BETTER time for her or Ted Cruz to call these a$$holes bluff by forming a NEW PARTY.

I'd be in faster than a speeding bullet.

77 posted on 08/24/2013 11:06:37 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: RedMDer
If they[Congress, a/k/a the House A/l/a the Republicans] decide to fund it [obamacare] with this CR, it is over. You better start formulating plan B.

It is my belief, from watching how the Republicans operate, that enough Republicans will side with the Democrats to fund it. But we will find out soon enough.

78 posted on 08/24/2013 11:08:02 AM PDT by sport
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To: VideoDoctor

Agreed.

And even if we lose I’d rather lose with my core principles in tact than capitulating to some twerp like McCain, Romney, Christie, Graham or ___________ (fill in the blank) just for the sake of getting someone with the magic “R” next to their name on the ballot box.


79 posted on 08/24/2013 11:09:40 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: Jim Robinson

BTTT!

Sadly though, I believe the Republican leadership will piss it away.


80 posted on 08/24/2013 11:10:24 AM PDT by jazusamo ("I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white." T. Sowell)
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To: stanne
Make a CHOICE,

He already did - he's been at it for five years now. Drop ANY hope he will do the right thing nor those who selected him to stay in. It's by design, they know what they are doing and they hope all we do is whine and complain. If this was 100 years ago - he would be flipped out so fast he'd cry.

81 posted on 08/24/2013 11:11:30 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: okie01

http://www.thinktankwatch.com/2012/05/will-obama-join-council-on-foreign.html

I’ve seen it other places though. Back in the early ‘00’s.

Membership is 5years IIRC so he may have been a member in the past but is no longer a member now.

He certainly qualifies as the ‘loyal opposition’ though.


82 posted on 08/24/2013 11:13:25 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Jim Robinson; All
Directory of Representatives
83 posted on 08/24/2013 11:13:31 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: mdittmar
I want a third party.
Bump!

We NEED a third party
Bump!

84 posted on 08/24/2013 11:13:34 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: usconservative

That ship sailed November 6, 2012, My FRiend.


85 posted on 08/24/2013 11:13:57 AM PDT by sport
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To: publius911
I find it bizarre that anyone would get on their knees and beg to be fed pure, unadulterated BS lies and propaganda.

We are living in a pretty bizarro world - I could never have believed this clown could have been reelected.
86 posted on 08/24/2013 11:17:35 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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DEFEAT TYRANNY!
START HERE.
Please Contribute Today!

87 posted on 08/24/2013 11:17:39 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: RedMDer

There’s absolutely no way ObamaCommieCare can work. It is destined to failure. The only question is how much of our economy will go down with it until they finally pull the plug. We’re hemorrhaging jobs already. The country is hopelessly in debt and the economy is tanking, but Obama’s still spending like there’s no tomorrow. And all the while doing everything he can to go over or around the congress to get his dictatorial way. If the congress doesn’t act very soon this country is going down the tubes. And apparently Obama’s fine with that. We’re on the brink of a constitutional crisis like we’ve haven’t seen since Lincoln’s day.


88 posted on 08/24/2013 11:17:47 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

If your not ready for a revolutionary third party yet, you deserve Obamacare and homosexual public school teachers, IRS agents and boy scout leaders...


89 posted on 08/24/2013 11:18:45 AM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: sport
Bottom line for this whole cat fight...

No law that can't be summarized on one page, which nobody read or understands, WHICH AFFECTS EVERY LIVING HUMAN IN THE COUNTRY, and which exempts ALL of the "lawmakers," "RULEMAKERS," and selected privileged groups is just not right!

IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT!

90 posted on 08/24/2013 11:18:57 AM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: Jim Robinson
There’s absolutely no way ObamaCommieCare can work.

Exactly and the GOP-e is not on our side. Through them out!

91 posted on 08/24/2013 11:19:52 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: publius911

I understand that. But the fact of the matter is that it is here. Next question is, what to do about it? It Comes down to two answers, accept it or reject it. Accept it, fine. Reject it, fight it anyway possible. It don’t mean shit, but my vote goes to reject it.


92 posted on 08/24/2013 11:24:21 AM PDT by sport
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To: Jim Robinson
"The British troops are too strong and too well equipped for us to fight against. It is simply not realistic to engage them in battle".

~ General McMorris Rodgers

93 posted on 08/24/2013 11:31:27 AM PDT by JPG (Obama, Juan and Linda Do Egypt.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Who is the conservative running against this POS Polidiot Rodgers ?

I need to send her conservative opponent some fiscal support to put her back in the pasture.

Stay Safe !


94 posted on 08/24/2013 11:34:30 AM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Jim Robinson; All
Blamed for government shutdown? Wait until you’re blamed for destroying the entire nation!!

Time for the Congress to take back control of the nation from the MSM. By saying that they would be "Blamed for government shutdown" What they are effecively saying is that the MSM controls national policy, not the Congress.

95 posted on 08/24/2013 11:38:36 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Jim Robinson
GOP Leaders seem to be galvanizing around a plan to delay by a year the implementation of ObamaCare.

Does anyone on the Republican side in DC have more than two brain cells?

Obama is delaying parts of ObamaCare so Democrats won't be hurt by the implementation of ObamaCare in the 2014 elections.

It makes zero sense to have Republicans help Obama delay ObamaCare and spare Democrats the electoral pain from this horrible legislation.

By all means defund ObamaCare, but lacking that, make the Democrats own ObamaCare in all it's glory as it's rammed down America's throat.

96 posted on 08/24/2013 11:42:45 AM PDT by RJL (There's no greed like the greed of a liberal politician buying votes with your money.)
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Somebody has to fix it.

Support Free Republic.

97 posted on 08/24/2013 11:43:37 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: Jim Robinson

These asshats broke their oaths the minute they crossed the border representing interests other than the people they were elected to represent.

YES WE CAN relate the discussion to another issue of concern, and that’s the minute the illegals crossed the border they broke the law.

The errant representatives should be impeached for non representation of their constituencies just as the illegals should be deported for crossing the border illegally.


98 posted on 08/24/2013 11:43:39 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Don’t hold back Jim. Tell us how you really feel.

As I’ve been saying for weeks now, owebamacare will go into effect on schedule. Not because the gop wing of the uniparty is cowardly so much, but because they WANT owebamacare to go into effect.

If you think about it from their perspective it makes some sense. First off, just think about all the owebamacare related graft. People will be clamoring for exemptions. An owebamacare exemption for your business will be a very nice thing to have. For a price, of course.

Then there’s all the personal data that will suddenly become available. Just think how convenient it will be to look up the medical records of your political opponents!

And then there is the propaganda value. If the gop actually defunded owebamacare, they wouldn’t have it as an ongoing issue to bring up in future elections. The gop corollary to never letting a crisis go to waste is to never let a crisis get away by being resolved.

As for the electoral implications, the gop wing of the uniparty has already done the math. Most gop seats in the house have been safely gerrymandered to the extent that they could run a broken dinner plate with an “R” after it and it would be elected. The gop wing of the uniparty has always been perfectly happy to cede leadership to the ‘rat faction, so long as they get their share of the spoils. This is no different. So a few gop members in marginal seats lose in 2014. So what? The vast majority will be back to ride the DC gravy train for the foreseeable future.

Sure. There’ll be some carefully staged theatrics and melodrama over the CR. But when all is said and done, the gop faction of the uniparty will crawl over broken glass to make sure that owebamacare comes into fruition.


99 posted on 08/24/2013 11:45:42 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: RKBA Democrat

UNLESS... we call God into our pictures again. Beginning with us. And this being a God not merely of “no” but also of “YES.”


100 posted on 08/24/2013 11:47:11 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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