CHP encounter while concealed carrying

8-24-2013 | self

[03A3]

It must suck to live in Vermont. Period.

[Wonder Warthog]

"I fully expected to receive a citation. I deserved a citation. I do not know why she decided not to cite me."

Because it was blatantly obvious that you knew what the CCW law was, and were following it scrupulously. That gave you increased credibility as a law-abiding citizen in the very serious area of armed usage....something far more critical to a cop than a speeding citation. And I think any officer who did NOT have JBT (jack-booted-thug) tendencies would have done the same......even in California.

[Wonder Warthog]

Most states REQUIRE that if you have a CCW, that you so inform the officer(s) immediately, especially if you are actually carrying. Once she had his license and registration, it WOULD be computer checked with the state databases, which would then flag him as a CCW, and, having not so informed the officer, he would be in REAL trouble.

[Patriot Babe]

Yes if you recall what happen to CHP Officer Kenyeon Youngstrom a year ago. That is why many who are in this job are kinda of apprehensive when they approach a car.

[Utilizer]

Yeah? My encounter with Kalifornia chippies was most instructional -to the point where I have absolutely no trust at all that they are there to enhance the safety and well-being of the general populace.

Wannabe bloody JBT's, the lot of them.

[logi_cal869]

Kudos on your handling; good story to share.

However, my mind is in the gutter:

A female CHP officer “...started to remove the gun and I asked her to stop and slide the gun back into the holster...”

And you thought it was just your smile...

(”weapon”, ya know...)

“This is my rifle and this is my gun...”

[Lancey Howard]

Glad I’m in Pennsylvania. I checked and could find nothing about any requirement to notify a cop who pulls me over that I have a CC permit or a gun in the car.

[Navy Patriot]

(I) essentially believe along with most others locally that what I carry and shoot is no-one else’s business or requires a “permit” to do so.

I'm sorry you construed my post as endorsing state concealed carry licensing laws.

I was merely informing a FReeper that the entirety of California was not controlled by a Marxist Democrat tyranny.

I support only one gun law, and that is:

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

There are no others, none.

[FreedomPoster]

OK, LMAO on that!

Don’t think I’d have ever tried that, but now I know!

[RobinOfKingston]

I agree. Never tell anyone you have a weapon.

I recently made a lengthy weekend trip several hundred miles from home. The night before leaving, I knocked the front license plate holder off my car on a parking barricade. I knew when it happened, retrieved it, and placed it on the rear seat. No time to replace it before leaving the next morning. Idaho requires license plates front and back.

A couple days later, on my way home, I was passing through a small town and a ISP officer noticed my plate missing. He stopped me, and we had a good chat on the road side. I told him what happened, he told me to fix it. I said I would. He then ran my drivers license, registration and insurance through his on-board computer. Everything ok. No citation. Just before we parted company he asked if I had any weapons in the car.

"No, sir, I don't have."

"Thank you, have a good trip home."

I have a CCW card. I often do have a weapon with me. I got to wondering how the encounter would have ended had I answered that I did have one with me.

It continued to bother me and I ended up writing to the ISP Region One commander. He contacted the officer who confirmed my story of a good, friendly stop. The officer told him that when he checked my license he was also informed of the CCW permit. It was only then, near the end of the conversation, that he knew to ask.

Moral of the story is. When they check your license, they will know that you have a permit and may be carrying.

Let that knowledge inform you in your interaction with the officer, should it ever be necessary. You may not be required to volunteer the information, but, answer truthfully if they ask.

[martin_fierro]

I told her my license was in my right rear pocket, my permit to carry a concealed weapon was in my left rear pocket and the handgun was in my right front pocket. I asked her how she wanted to proceed. She asked me to exit the vehicle and meet her at the back of the truck. She had me turn-away from her, place my hands on the back of my head, and she started to remove the gun from my right pocket. She started to remove the gun and I asked her to stop and slide the gun back into the holster and take the gun and the holster out in one motion as the gun was a Glock and I wanted to keep the trigger covered. She did, and then placed the gun on the front seat of her vehicle. She came back and I repeated the hands on the head while she searched me for any other weapons. I told her I had a knife in another pocket, which she removed, and then asked me for my driver license, and my ccw permit. She looked at my license and my permit and requested that I slow down while driving, returned my knife and my gun. We exchanged pleasantries and I went on my way. I fully expected to receive a citation. I deserved a citation.

Dude, that's hot.

[yadent]

I don’t believe K. Youngstrom was a CCW holder. I can’t recall any officer being shot by a CCW holder in the past few years. Statistically, a civilian is many more times likely to be shot by an officer than an officer by a civilian. If officers are that ‘apprehensive’ when dealing with the public, they need to find another line of work. They are a danger to themselves and the public they are supposed to serve. If anyone should be ‘apprehensive’ it should be an increasingly disarmed public.

[yadent]

I meant to say Christopher Boone Lacy, Youngstrom’s killer, wasn’t a CCW holder.

[Lazamataz]

Dude, that's hot.

Dear Penthouse,

I have always read your stories with some disbelief, but finally, it happened to me.

She was a law enforcement officer, and she stopped me after we made eye contact on the highway. She asked me who I was....

I told her my license was in my right rear pocket, my permit to carry a concealed weapon was in my left rear pocket and the handgun was in my right front pocket. I asked her how she wanted to proceed. She asked me to exit the vehicle and meet her at the back of the truck. She had me turn-away from her, place my hands on the back of *** ******, and she started to ***** *** **** from my right pocket. She started to *** *** ** and I asked her to stop and slide **** **** ** ***** **** out in one motion **** *** ***** ** and I wanted to ****** *** ***** covered. She did, and then placed the **** ** **** *****. She came back and I repeated **** ******* *** **** while she **** **** ** * for any other **** *** ***** . I told her I had **** ** ** ***** ***, which she *** *** ***** and then asked me for *** *** ****** ** ****. She looked at my *** **** ** ****** and requested that I slow *** ***** *** ********. We exchanged *** ****** ***** and I went *******. I fully expected to ***** *** *******. I deserved a *** ****** ****.

[Utilizer]

No worries, mate. I was just having a bit of fun pointing out that as you admit, not all of the state is the same as say, San Fran or Berkely.

Here, nobody cares what the local authorities consider to be "needing a permit for". We have our own problems with wildlife and see no reason for government intervention in what occurs in our daily lives.

What I shoot, and "what" I shoot is no one else's business and needs no permits nor will I ever voluntarily agree to one. Glad you and I appear to be of a similar mindset about that.

[Chesterbelloc]

Thanks for sharing your story.

[Chesterbelloc]

Rural California counties are nothing like the Marxist tyranny urban and suburban counties. In counties like Calaveras, Amador and others, the Sheriff is objective and reasonable in the issuance of CCW to law abiding citizens.

Echoing what you said, the Sheriff in Fresno County is very friendly and has said that she considers living in Fresno County as a valid reason to issue a CCW. A big part of our county is rural and mountain folk. She is currently helping with an endangered frog issue: http://www.ksee24.com/news/local/Frogs---DRU-212235441.html

[Navy Patriot]

As an aside, your local county Sheriff (and thus his deputies) is a Constitutionally addressed and authorized Peace Officer, and is usually elected.

Your "police" are not. Nor your highway patrol, or state trooper, or state investigator, state police, governors police or any other state appointed bureaucrat. There are no such entities in the Constitution.

It's not surprising to find rural Sheriffs willing to serve the public.

[S.O.S121.500]

Arizona’s Constitutional Carry allows LEO to figure most everyone is armed........we generally have polite encounters.

[Mr Radical]

Man, you took this? She obviously stopped you only because of your race. You should have put her straight with something like, “Yo pickin’ on me, b*tch cracka?” Then smacked her head against the pavement a few times until she saw sense. Never fails.
/s