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The Poisonous Employee-Ranking System That Helps Explain Microsoft’s Decline
Slate ^ | Friday, August 23, 2013 | Will Oremus

Posted on 08/25/2013 6:24:11 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

There were many reasons for the decline of Microsoft under Steve Ballmer, including, as I wrote this morning, its lack of focus and its habit of chasing trends rather than creating them. But one that’s not obvious to outsiders was the company’s employee evaluation system, known as “stack ranking.” The system—and its poisonous effects on Microsoft’s corporate culture—was best explained in an outstanding Vanity Fair feature by Kurt Eichenwald last year...

So while Google was encouraging its employees to spend 20 percent of their time to work on ideas that excited them personally, Ballmer was inadvertently encouraging his to spend a good chunk of their time playing office politics. Why try to outrun the bear when you can just tie your co-workers' shoelaces?

Microsoft wasn’t the first company to adopt this sort of ranking system. It was actually popularized by Jack Welch at GE, where it was known as “rank and yank.” Welch defended the practice to the Wall Street Journal in a January 2012 article, saying, “This is not some mean system—this is the kindest form of management. [Low performers] are given a chance to improve, and if they don't in a year or so, you move them out. "

As the Journal and others have noted, what seemed to work for Welch—for a time, anyway—has produced some ugly results elsewhere. Even GE phased the system out following Welch’s departure.

(Excerpt) Read more at slate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: aboreyouknow; adoorknob; generalelectric; jackwelch; kurteichenwald; microsoft; msbuttboys; rankandyank; slate; stackranking; steveballmer; vanityfair; willoremus
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To: Cyber Liberty

Yup. And also, the second a good manager lets his guard down and hires an idiot, the whole thing collapses rapidly. That one idiot destroys the cohesion, the morale and the desire to excel in the rest.

Oh did I get an inside view on that one once.


151 posted on 08/25/2013 2:08:22 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: dfwgator
Apple made their products too good, if anything.....People don’t feel the need to upgrade from the Apple products they bought 3 or 4 years ago.

That's essentially what happened with PCs, where most people now don't feel the need to upgrade to anything new, since what they have now is more than adequate for 5 or more years. So, tablets, and even smartphones, will not be getting upgraded as often as every 1 or 2 years, like has been the case, and the biggest reason for Apple and Samsung having such good sales.
152 posted on 08/25/2013 2:19:59 PM PDT by adorno (Y)
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To: staytrue

“Ok, but in the first 2 years, was this good ? I suspect it was as the competent people stayed and the deadwood got cleared out.”

Even before this policy it was a very demanding environment where poor performers are not tolerated for very long. There wasnt alot of dead wood to start but the new policy demanded that 15 percent of people in ALL organizations were deemed poor performers. For example if you had a group of 10 nobel prize winners, one of them would have been rated unsatisfactory. Lots of good people got flushed.


153 posted on 08/25/2013 2:45:06 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: duckman

“This happened to me several years ago. I was an employee at a major computer company for 25 years. I was usually evaluated as a 1 or a 2 performer. I transfered, within the same company, to another site into a group of 1 performers. Since I was new to the department and had the timing misfortune of joining the department during a ‘ranking’ session, I was ranked at the bottom and ‘yanked’.”

I saw that happen in my organization while I was a manager. While ranking employees in other organizations if no one knew who you were you got a poor rating. Luckily I was able to get out of management and back to the bench after a few years.


154 posted on 08/25/2013 2:58:23 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Gritty; gogeo
The HR Department is a millstone around the neck of any company who has one...

I think that's true. How many businesses of a certain size do NOT have an HR Dept? Any? Why?

I think it's partly the mindset of many businesses that "expertise," however defined, is valued. The thought is that hiring and managing people is such an important function that we need "experts" which is in this case HR professionals. The results speak for themselves.

However, HR depts. serve a much more important function for a company...they PROTECT THE COMPANY FROM ITS EMPLOYEES.

I believe the #1 priority of any HR Dept is...don't let us get sued. So there are all kinds of methods and processes for hiring and firing that are legally sound but functionally null (at best).

While true for some companies, I think that really depends on the company and the HR department.

Compliance is a huge issue for companies now days; federal and state DOL regulations, EEOC, FMLA, unemployment claims, workers compensation, disability claims, health and welfare benefits, wrongful terminations, fair hiring practices, background checks and drug screenings, what you can and can’t ask in an interview, policies that you can and can’t include in the employee handbook and in the case of the company I work for – payroll with all the tax and other regulations that fall on my dept which is under HR - it’s a mine field out there and having a competent HR department does help keep the company out of court and prevent them from being fined big bucks.

I’ve also seen our HR manager go to bat for our employees and she really does listen to their concerns and complaints and when valid, she tries to resolve their issues and acts as their advocate. She advises/mentors employees who want to move up, or transfer to other positions within the company, telling them if they are not qualified but also tells them why and with suggestions for further training or areas where they need improvement or if they are qualified, makes sure they have a fair shot at the promotion or transfer. She’s been with this company for over 24 years and knows our business, the area and the “culture” and really has her finger on the pulse of all our workers and is highly respected by all for her honesty and fairness.

I’ve also seen her question performance reviews conducted by a manager where that manager gives one employee a higher review score than another but the comments on the review are either exactly identical or the employee with the higher score has been recently reprimanded, has a poor attendance record or has been put on an improvement plan – yes, there is potential legal exposure for the company that she is concerned about, but she also wants to ensure that an employee is truly not being treated unfairly by a manager with a grudge or personal issue not related to their employee’s performance. She will also look at outstanding performance reviews and talk to their manager about the employee’s potential for promotion and then the employee to ascertain if that is something that they are interested in pursuing. She also makes sure that our performance reviews are written in such a way as to be both meaningful and fair to the employees and management and not onerous or overly time consuming for supervisors to complete.

And I’ve seen managers write job descriptions for new positions but when it comes to writing the job listing, they ask for things like degrees or certifications that are not at all supported by the actual job description or they have unrealistic expectations of what that position should pay, either way too low or way too high. A good HR manager can bring both the manager’s expectations of what is needed vs. what is “wanted” and what the job market is paying for those positions and for our region and our industry, what a qualified applicants expect in an offer and brings theses all in line to get the best candidate for the job. One recent example was when we had an opening for a pricing analyst. The hiring manager wanted 10+ years of experience in pricing and both a BA and an MBA in but only wanted to pay something like $15 per hour as a non-exempt (hourly) employee but the actual job description as written did not support this. She told the hiring manager it was a waste of both her and his and any applicant’s time to advertize the position that way and bring in qualified candidates and then only offer them $15 per hour and for a non-exempt position when the job description alone would make it salaried position and that the job advert as proposed would bring in only people looking for a lot more than $15 per hour. As a result, with her help, the manager re-wrote both the job description and the job advert (upgraded the job description a bit and lowered the job advert to match and more in line with what was really needed) and we hired someone who so far is working out very well and within the new job description, a job and person who filled it that are serving the business needs and well within budget and a new hire who is not likely to quit in a few weeks or months because the job and pay wasn’t what they wanted or within the market price for their skills set.

Last year we got a new president and he has tried to make a lot of changes in a very short time – some are good and make sense and some are just because that was what he was used to at his last company and or, and in my opinion, he just wants to flex his muscle and authority and make changes for the sake of making changes.

Effective January 1, we are becoming a 100% smoke free campus and while my HR manager is a smoker herself, she was more concerned and stood up for our other and especially our hourly employees when it was proposed by upper management that: we should drug test for nicotine as we would for illegal narcotics and telling hourly workers that they were not allowed to leave the building during their unpaid lunch break or if they were allowed to leave the building, that they couldn’t smoke in their own vehicle even while off company property or parked on the public street across from our facility or in not hiring new employees who were smokers (which is illegal in NC where one of our plants is located). She made it very clear that while such a policy is supposed to be an incentive to quit smoking and in theory to reduce our healthcare costs and she supports the smoke free campus idea and this policy would be “legal” except for our NC plant. She also pointed out that smoking is still legal and that by treating workers who smoke and only the hourly employees with unpaid meal breaks (as opposed to salaried or some hourly workers on 2nd, 3rd and weekend shift workers who get a paid meal break), many of them long time and productive workers, like criminals or children, that this would have a real negative effect on moral. She also pointed out that workers who are not smokers could be engaging in activities or life style choices on their free time that could also impact their health and her push back resulted in a more reasonable and fair policy.

The new president also recently wanted us to change our Paid Time Off (PTO) policy, originally wanting to institute effective January 1, an annual “use it or lose it” policy and then when that was struck down, a reduced number of hours one could carry over from year to year (to only 40 hours), and reducing the maximum caps on accrued PTO hours to 120 hours across the board, regardless of how long they’ve worked for the company and totally eliminating the ability to cash out unused PTO. While again, she understood the economic reasons for the proposed changes and supported it, she also brought to the president and the compensation committee’s attention the fact that some employees with more than 20 years with the company have banked up to their max, in some cases up to 300 hours of PTO and that there was no way they could use all that time between now and the end of the year without impacting production and that it was unfair for them to lose this time especially if they were not able to cash it out or use that time due to business needs. She also advocated for a cap and carry over limit higher than 40 hours as because if an hourly employee goes out on short term disability, they have a four week wait period and can use their banked PTO as a float until their STD kicks in. In this case she looked at what was good for the company but also what was fair to the employees.

While I’ve worked for some companies where HR was only looking out only for the company, even ignoring or supporting illegal or unethical employment policies, that’s not how it works at the company I work for presently - and thank goodness.

155 posted on 08/25/2013 3:43:16 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: varmintman
Thanks but no thanks.

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156 posted on 08/25/2013 4:29:09 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: MD Expat in PA
It sounds like the head of your HR ought to be the head of you company. That's unusual.

...it’s a mine field out there and having a competent HR department does help keep the company out of court and prevent them from being fined big bucks.

You're right about that. In the end though, the value of HR is mostly related back to government, lawyers, and unions - all parasites or sand-in-the-gears people who add little or nothing much of value to either the company or the product.

157 posted on 08/25/2013 4:31:55 PM PDT by Gritty (The idea social progress can never be uninvented is one of the left's laziest assumptions-Mark Steyn)
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To: SunkenCiv
Yeah, I still recall, back in the days when digital cameras were becoming seriously comparable to film in quality, the geniuses at E.Kodak announced that they were dropping their entire digital photography efforts" to "focus on their film business".

Now, with thousands of $$$ worth of film Nikons (for which film and processing are hardly available) in the safe, I'm 100% digital, and my hold-out wife is just about to give up film...

Even back when Kodak pulled that dumb@$$ move, it didn't take a futurist with a computer to predict Kodak's demise...

158 posted on 08/25/2013 4:32:25 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: adorno; llevrok
"I'd say that Apple is closer to being like Kodak was, than MS or even Google. "

Bravo sierra! Kodak rode one old horse (film) into the ground; Apple keeps inventing new horses.

Microsoft can barely stay in the saddle on horses others invented...

~~~~~~~~~~~

Nice try, Steve...

159 posted on 08/25/2013 4:42:48 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: TXnMA

Microsoft is still sitting on a ton of cash. Things can change in an instant.


160 posted on 08/25/2013 4:44:10 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: TXnMA
Apple keeps inventing new horses.

That's a whole lot of horse crap!

Apple didn't invent anything in the last 10 years or more. Apple just took what was out there, and made it better. That's not inventing; that's basically, the same as reinventing the wheel.

Apple is still, basically, a one trick pony, with minor upgrades or tiny increments to their devices, in order to create a new sales cycle for the same basic things. There is one iPHone, with a tiny increment each year, and there is basically one iPad, and a tiny version of that same iPad. Apple does make Macs, but, those aren't even in the picture for what constitutes Apple.

Nice try, but your comments are the biggest load of crap on the planet.
161 posted on 08/25/2013 5:06:19 PM PDT by adorno (Y)
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To: SunkenCiv
LOL


162 posted on 08/25/2013 5:31:12 PM PDT by Daffynition (Life's short- paddle hard!)
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To: TXnMA

:’)


163 posted on 08/25/2013 5:35:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Apologies; forgot your OP courtesy ping to my #111...
164 posted on 08/25/2013 5:44:19 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: TXnMA

Thanks for the ping. Bean counters have a role to play, but they aren’t fit to lead.


165 posted on 08/25/2013 6:31:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Dr. Deming’s 14 Points for Management, Point #12:

12. Permit pride of workmanship:

Remove barriers that rob workers and people in management of their right to having pride in their work. This means, for example, abolishment of the annual or merit rating and of management by objective.


166 posted on 08/25/2013 7:38:43 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: SunkenCiv

I work in a company that does this. I think that *on the whole* talent is recognized. But there are exceptions as well. And there are probably many more cases where someone is ranked middle of the pack (not bottom 5%) when they should be higher, or someone who is ranked higher when they should be middle of the pack.

But I strongly agree that it creates a fearful, political atmosphere. People in this environment will tend to do the safe thing, not the innovative, courageous thing. And there’ll be a bit less of a tendency to help one’s peers.

Having said all of that - no system is perfect - at least none that I can see or even imagine.

The biggest thing is that if you’re at a company that’s “flying high” - say like Google - everything is going to come out smelling like roses. You’ll get the smartest people - they will get stock options that actually are worth something and you’ll get to develop new and innovative products.

If you’re working at a company in decline - nothing is going to seem like it works. People will leave, the ones that stay won’t be happy and the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer.


167 posted on 08/25/2013 7:41:29 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: SunkenCiv

bookmark


168 posted on 08/25/2013 10:01:36 PM PDT by John Galt's cousin (WTF? We couldn't rescue four men in Benghazi? Is our military IMPOTENT? ( /s ))
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To: TXnMA

“...that company — in my rear-view mirror — for the final time...”

I felt the same way. On my last day I was ‘checked out’ of the company, I could not say good bye to my work associates and was escorted to the parking lot. As I approached my car, I looked back and felt like a newly released prisoner just given a gray suit and $5 dolars spending money.


169 posted on 08/26/2013 5:28:43 AM PDT by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: adorno
Sure- I've only been writing software for twenty years on multiple platforms, so I don't what I'm talking about.

As soon as a major manufacturer can get an alternative OS installed in bulk that supports viable consumer and business apps that doesn't cost $2000 a la apple MS is toast. Already any business using Windows servers on its back end is run by fools (having just seen a back end server on hosted network get infested with viruses).

I think everyone who works in IT owes MS a big debt because computer use would never have gone anywhere if everyone were stuck having to a $20k SG workstation. But that doesn't mean Windows isn't a POS.

170 posted on 08/26/2013 11:17:58 AM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: pierrem15
Sure- I've only been writing software for twenty years on multiple platforms, so I don't what I'm talking about. Woah! Am I supposed to be impressed?!?

But, buddy, I've got you beat by at least twice your number of years of experience, at development and analysis and management in IT. But, neither your experience nor mine are material to the subject at hand.

As soon as a major manufacturer can get an alternative OS installed in bulk that supports viable consumer and business apps that doesn't cost $2000 a la apple MS is toast.

Not likely to happen.

Linux is "free" and there are major companies that have used Linux for their devices and services, and lately, Linux in the form of Android has tried its hand, and they're still not breaking into the consumer or business sectors with any kind of success. Then there is OSX and it's many variations, which many thought could be a major competitor to Windows, and it's only been able to garner not much better than around 5% of the market.

But, keep waiting and dreaming. What hasn't occurred in the last 30 years or so, could happen. But then, MS would have to make some real awful and major mistakes for that to happen.

That Windows that you call a POS, has been driving business, small/medium/large, for over a generation, and quite well, as witnessed by how not many opted to go with Linux of OSX or any other. That POS is still installed on over 2 billion computers around the world, even if they're not in use all the time. What other piece of software can make that claim. No, Android can't make that claim, because, it's still a fairly new player and the staying power of the OS is still in doubt.

Now, since your experience, nor mine, matter in the discussion, the only other thing that matters, is the general consumer and business users, who've decided that, your dislike for MS is not how things work when it comes to their IT/computer/software decisions. Already any business using Windows servers on its back end is run by fools (having just seen a back end server on hosted network get infested with viruses). I think everyone who works in IT owes MS a big debt because computer use would never have gone anywhere if everyone were stuck having to a $20k SG workstation. But that doesn't mean Windows isn't a POS.

171 posted on 08/26/2013 5:57:46 PM PDT by adorno (Y)
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