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Engel, Corker: U.S. action in Syria may not wait
POLITICO ^ | August 25, 2013 | LEIGH MUNSIL

Posted on 08/25/2013 7:32:22 AM PDT by maggief

President Barack Obama should not necessarily wait for Congress to return from recess before taking action in Syria, two lawmakers said on "Fox News Sunday."

"We have to move, and we have to move quickly," said Rep. Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.), the ranking member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee. "Congress needs to be involved, but perhaps not initially."

The U.S. can and should act to respond after reported widespread chemical attacks in Syria, using cruise missile strikes but not "boots on the ground" to destroy Bashar al Assad's runways, munitions and fuel, Engel added. "I think we have to respond, and we have to respond in conjunction with our NATO allies. ... We cannot afford to sit back and wait."

The Senate Foreign Relations Committee's ranking member, Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), agreed, adding that the amount of social media coming out of Syria indicates that the chemical attacks actually are happening, and weren't just invented by the opposition to drum up sympathy.

"My sense is that this has happened, I think we will respond in a surgical way," Corker said. "And I hope the president as soon as we get back to Washington will ask for authorization from Congress to do something in a very surgical and proportional way. Something that gets their attention, that causes them to understand that we are not going to put up with this kind of activity."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; US: New Jersey; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bobcorker; china; corker; eliotengel; engel; iran; israel; lebanon; newjersey; newyork; randsconcerntrolls; russia; syria; tennessee; waronterror; warpowersact

1 posted on 08/25/2013 7:32:22 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

Obama own words: No nation should tell Iran, Libya, Egypt, Yemen they can’t have nuclear weapons


2 posted on 08/25/2013 7:33:36 AM PDT by omega4179
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To: maggief

number 1: We do not “have to move”, US has no interests whatsoever in Syria

Number 2: We do not “have to move quickly” or move at all, US has no interests whatsoever n Syria

These”lawmakers” ought to keep their lying mouths shut and concentrate on their jobs


3 posted on 08/25/2013 7:35:17 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: maggief

...the big eared little boy king still has red ink left in his pencil....


4 posted on 08/25/2013 7:35:19 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: maggief

Obama explain why you didn’t care when Iran slaughtered its own People but you do when its Syrians??


5 posted on 08/25/2013 7:35:57 AM PDT by omega4179
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To: maggief

Corker..predictably on the McCain rino side of things. God help us. And their stupidity will give Obama just the shield he needs to blame any fallout on ‘republicans’.

Way to go GOPe! Morons!


6 posted on 08/25/2013 7:38:23 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: yldstrk

You are correct. We ain’t got no dog in this fight.


7 posted on 08/25/2013 7:38:40 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: maggief

Yeah, better send in cruise missiles to destroy evidence that the rebels, ie, terrorists, were behind the chemical attacks, before the UN completes its investigation.


8 posted on 08/25/2013 7:39:56 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (Border Fence Obamacare!)
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To: omega4179

Excellent point. As Sarah Palin so eloquently stated, “Let allah sort it out.” There is NO winning side for America in this Muslim on Muslim fight.


9 posted on 08/25/2013 7:40:16 AM PDT by ScubieNuc (When there is no justice in the laws, justice is left to the outlaws.)
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To: maggief

What could go wrong?!

#Syria’s Information Minister: We have incontrovertible proof that terrorists used chemical weapons

http://rt.com/news/syria-green-light-chemical-inspection-967/

Syrian govt greenlights UN chemical weapons probe

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/25/us-syria-crisis-idUSBRE97K0EL20130825

Syria says any U.S. military action would ‘inflame Middle East’

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/iran-warns-us-military-move-syria-20059876

Iran Warns US Over Military Move Against Syria

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jU4pWO1l5UxpCVbhl7q8OiMBrrLg?docId=CNG.41705513ced8faf6653743a6831fe68b.1a1

Jihadists vow revenge over Syria chemical attack claims


10 posted on 08/25/2013 7:43:00 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

Limited efforts? These ( o )s ignore irresistible mission creep.


11 posted on 08/25/2013 7:43:11 AM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: ScubieNuc

We have no declaration of war with Syria, they have not attacked us nor even threaten to do so. Any such act by this asshole needs to have him impeached immediately, period, end of story.


12 posted on 08/25/2013 7:43:32 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: penelopesire

“Corker..predictably on the McCain rino side of things.”

Yep.

United States Senate Committee on Foreign Relations

Minority:

Bob Corker, Tennessee Ranking Member
Jim Risch, Idaho
Marco Rubio, Florida
Ron Johnson, Wisconsin
Jeff Flake, Arizona
John McCain, Arizona
John Barrasso, Wyoming
Rand Paul, Kentucky


13 posted on 08/25/2013 7:47:15 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Mouton

Obama did not consult with Congress on his intervention in Libya. Why start now? I sense that Obama wants to share the blame and will ask for approval from Congress or at least consult with top leadership. The vast majority of Americans are against it.


14 posted on 08/25/2013 7:49:39 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

I agree with your assessment, however, consulatation is not sufficient IMO for it to be a constitutionally approved action. When this goes bad, hopefully, we can get the Congress to do its thing and remove the turd.


15 posted on 08/25/2013 7:53:12 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Mouton

Agreed, but I doubt there is enough balls in the GOP to even push for impeachment.


16 posted on 08/25/2013 7:53:16 AM PDT by ScubieNuc (When there is no justice in the laws, justice is left to the outlaws.)
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To: maggief

two or three bombs directed on the bunker where Assad is known to be will end the current war.

Bibi will know the targets


17 posted on 08/25/2013 7:55:41 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Mouton

Obama has done so many unconstitutional acts that this will just be added to the list and no action taken. The GOP lacks the cojones to hold this tyrant to account. He should have been impeached long ago. Yes, the Senate will never approve it, but the GOP controls the House and should proceed apace.


18 posted on 08/25/2013 8:02:39 AM PDT by kabar
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To: maggief

........why should the U.S. spend a billion or so on Tomahawks and other weaponry to blow up a few jihadis that but for their brothers distracting them by trying to kill them with poison chemicals they would be planning more 911’s against us.

And, people like Corker make me more ill than the Dims! This country is BROKE and he wants to save a few jihadis from themselves. Let them continue to self eradicate and do the world a favor! The fewer of them on this planet the better! Period!


19 posted on 08/25/2013 8:14:30 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: yldstrk
Our "Interests" are created in part by the continuity of career foreign service officers and other agency personnel operating either undeclared or declared from our own Dept of State. In some instances, a political appointee into an Ambassadorship can either break that "profession trajectory" and alter the course. Of course most political appointees have no clue about US interests and thus become pawns of the president in implementing diplomacy.

Our interests in Syria are linked to Lebanon and most importantly to Iran. Unless the US takes on Iran, we are forever destined to have this splinter in our eye, and someday they can and will succeed in harming the Great Satan.

Iran is at WAR with the US; Syria is a proxy.

In the greater global chess match with Iran, the death of Hugo Chavez in Venezuela slowed down the Iranian foray into South America which also could have drawn Cuba into another nasty web. Syria is one of four countries along with Venezuela and Lebanon that are in the Orbit of Iran. Iran is in the Russian Orbit, as are Syria and Venezuela. The chess match continues and removing Syria from the chess board will open further diplomatic and military opportunities to reduce, ultimately Russian influence. Russian influence has and always will be linked to proxy wars with the neighbors of their surrogates. Finally, the pressure on Iran being denied Syrian (and the Bekaa Valley Lebanon) will further isolate them into their own national boarders. Those boarders are completely surrounded by US military bases in every country. Those US bases have on hand fighter bombers and can serve as a final military-diplomatic reminder that a now weakened Iran faces a final Red Line. Without removing Syria from Iranian orbit, we do not have the option to deal with them on issues of terrorism and nuclear issues.

20 posted on 08/25/2013 8:21:33 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: Jumper

So, Jumper; explain to us the reason behind our supporting Al Qaida in Syria, especially as the idiots made the mistake of announcing the ‘chemical attack’ the day before is happened!


21 posted on 08/25/2013 8:32:26 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITIZEN: BORN IN THE USA OFCITIZEN PARENTS)
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To: Jumper

Are you kidding me? Iran is no longer ‘surrounded’ by any effective US military! Obama has removed our best assets in Afghanistan and Iraq. The time to take on Iran was during the revolution....and Obama refused to do it. Obama has no intention to take on Iran. He is installing Islamists, AQ and Muslim Brotherhood in power all over the Middle East.


22 posted on 08/25/2013 9:02:02 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: maggief

The word surgical always comes just before 150,000 US boots on the ground. We are going to end up in WWIII real soon.


23 posted on 08/25/2013 9:14:55 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: maggief

we have no dog in this fight - stay out!!


24 posted on 08/25/2013 11:01:24 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: SatinDoll

How could anyone defend Obama’s actions. His leading from behind has allowed AQ to assume a greater role, along with the MB in Syria. America’s interests have been subverted and literally flipped upside down the CHANGE. There is no support within the rational echelons of our government to support AQ. But is it not an opportunity to let yet another killing field occupy AQ’s ambitions and attrite their numbers in a nasty war where they yet again have to face a superior military that is fashioned upon the old Soviet Order of Battle. Chemical weapons were a reality for those of us who were expected to confront the USSR or Soviet forces in any scenario. If you believe the US is supporting AQ then you must also believe that the Obama Administration has double-crossed the American people and our Allies.


25 posted on 08/25/2013 12:30:06 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: penelopesire

Wow, you guys are hysterical and completely wrapped up in “news”. If you have any doubts about the USA seeking an opportunity to dismember Iran’s allies then you have no vision of how containment and isolation works when dealing with a terrorist support government such as Iran’s. The US is quite aware of Iran’s Rev Guards performing recon of US Embassies and Consulates in S. America and other places globally; it is complicated confront them militarily when the collateral damage will be to our diplomatic missions abroad. The best solution to dealing with Iran is to break their military strongholds in allied countries and then to blockade them with military forces from both sea and air. Obama would have been crazy to try to seek a military solution without decoupling Syria and Lebanon, as well as containing Iran’s assets in S. America. Patience.


26 posted on 08/25/2013 12:37:19 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: ScubieNuc
Now there is a statement that I can agree with.
27 posted on 08/25/2013 12:47:11 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: kabar
Sorry, that one won't work either.
28 posted on 08/25/2013 12:52:41 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: yldstrk
There are one h**l of a lot of Ragtops over there that hate us. If we get into a scrap with anyone we will have to take them all on. As the man said, We don't have a dog in that hunt. This time, let's just watch and see who wins.
29 posted on 08/25/2013 12:59:38 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: maggief
"We have to move, and we have to move quickly," said Rep. Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.), the ranking member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee. "Congress needs to be involved, but perhaps not initially."

Oh, really? Tell us again about Bush's "unilateral declaration of war on Iraq" that involved no fewer than two Congressional votes and formal presentations to the UN. The rules sure have changed since then.

30 posted on 08/25/2013 1:13:47 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: maggief

Corker is becoming another Gramnesty a-hole. What a disappointment.


31 posted on 08/25/2013 1:24:53 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Jumper

“... If you believe the US is supporting AQ then you must also believe that the Obama Administration has double-crossed the American people and our Allies.”

Yes, I do so believe.

Furthermore, there is something else in the arsenal of the new Russia that didn’t exist twenty-five years ago — weaponized ‘Black Pox’ (India 1 smallpox) and refrigerated warheads mounted on intercontinental ballistic missiles suitable for delivery on our doorsteps.

We’re vulnerable.

Russia now has a keen financial interest in maintaining a direct access port on the Med for their natural gas exports. Our using any faction in the Middle East to stem their economic interests would be foolish, and the Ruskies would respond vehemently. That’s national interest of a type most Americans can understand.

Your explanation is too complicated and frankly sounds like something a policy wonk would use. I suggest you try using common sense, instead.

There is a reason the ME is known to historians as “the graveyard of empires”.


32 posted on 08/25/2013 2:50:38 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITIZEN: BORN IN THE USA OFCITIZEN PARENTS)
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33 posted on 08/27/2013 7:00:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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