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Let's have the conversation about race
CNN ^ | August 26, 2013 | Ruben Navarrette

Posted on 08/26/2013 2:32:05 PM PDT by neverdem

Americans are told we need to have a national conversation in which we talk about race.

And yet, when we have horrific crimes with white victims where the alleged perpetrators are African-American or Latino, we're told that we can't talk about race.

This isn't true when the roles are reversed. If the victims are African-American or Latino, and the alleged perpetrator is white, we talk about race until our throats go dry.

Confused? Join the club.

If Americans don't understand it, how are we to explain any of this to the grieving family of Christopher Lane, a 22-year-old college baseball player from Melborne, Australia, who was recently gunned down while jogging in a neighborhood a world away -- Duncan, Oklahoma?

According to police, the evidence suggests that the shooting was not premeditated and random. It could have been part of a gang initiation, according to a theory floated by the father of a boy who the three teenagers allegedly tried to recruit.

But here's the headline: Prosecutors say that the killing was not about race, despite the fact that one alleged assailant left a long cyber trail on social media where he talked about hating "woods" (derogatory slang for white people) and glorified guns and violence.

"At this point, the evidence does not support the theory that Christopher Lane was targeted based upon his race or nationality," said District Attorney Jason Hicks.

As ghoulish as it sounds, it may be that the three teenagers responsible for the shooting -- 15-year-old James Edwards and 16-year-old Chancey Luna, who have been charged with first-degree murder, and 17-year-old Michael Long, who has been charged with being an accessory after the fact to murder for driving the car -- were simply bored and decided to kill someone. Unfortunately for Lane, who was visiting his...

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To: dfwgator

I agree. It goes without saying that a black person can be Thomas Sowell, Clarence Thomas, Larry Elder, Marva Collins, Alveda King ... or a black person can be “Tres Von” and a lot of worse people. It’s not because of their genes. It’s because of their character, and their character is formed, to a large extent, by their culture.

By leaving “race” out, we can all discuss what leads to a functional and productive life, irrespective of who people’s ancestors were.


21 posted on 08/26/2013 2:52:32 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Ask me about the Weiner Wager. Support Free Republic!)
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To: Olog-hai

in the lingo of The Hood...”Holder a PUNK!”


22 posted on 08/26/2013 2:54:09 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team / al-Kilab Division)
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To: neverdem

Ever since the general belief that “You can’t say the N word”, that was it, game over.

EVERY behavior by them has some excuse.
But don’t you dare say the N word!
Don’t you dare be critical in any way at all!

Not saying the N word has morphed into this kind of idea that we can’t do anything to “hurt their feelings” even if what someone wants to say IS THE TRUTH!!

But, as always, “He’s a good boy...”

I’m quoting numerous grandmothers there, I’m not calling anyone a “boy”.

But there are few I would call “men”.


23 posted on 08/26/2013 2:57:39 PM PDT by djf (Rich widows: My Bitcoin address is... 1ETDmR4GDjwmc9rUEQnfB1gAnk6WLmd3n6)
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To: neverdem

If a Muslim kills people, it is never terrorism regardless of the number hurt or killed.

If a black injures or kills a white it is never the result of racism regardless of what is said before and after the crime.

If a white man spends their entire life trying to help and assist the black community, that person is still a racist not because on any thought or deed, but simply because of their race.

It is getting to the point where words no longer have any meaning.

The left decide what a word means and worse yet, are just as likely to change the definition when ever it suits them.

I no longer speak to my leftest family members since we are speaking different languages, there can be no communication and without communications problems can not be resolved.


24 posted on 08/26/2013 2:58:10 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I do not doubt that our climate changes. I only doubt that anything man does has any effect.)
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To: neverdem

I don’t believe what they call racism today is what one normally understands as racism.

The segment of society represented by the blacks have changed from the past. I have worked with, played with and enjoyed being with, a number of blacks in my lifetime. They were good, honest, hard working, family oriented people - and those who are alive still are. The others are probably rolling over in their graves.

I have changed, some,in that today I am apprehensive driving through black communities in urban areas, lock my car doors when I am passing by a groups of blacks hanging out on a corner, etc. I don’t want to feel this way, It was’nt this way a few years ago, I wish it wasn’t so.

But as a community they have changed as evidenced by the latest published data that 72% of black births are to unwed mothers, that the prisons are heavily disproportionately filled with blacks, not because of racism but because they disproportionately commit crimes, and on and on.

It is the black community that needs to make a change.


25 posted on 08/26/2013 2:58:21 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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26 posted on 08/26/2013 2:59:24 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Gumdrop

“Navarette usually writes sensible columns. This is one of them.”

Maybe if your a pro amnesty globalist anti-white liberal. This guys columns have driven me crazy for years.

I know your probably gonna respond you’re not any of those things and I’m the irrational one making freepers look bad. Seriously, his column in the Dallas Morning News for most of the past decade I have had to almost always disagree with. I know he sounds sensible but like any rino his policies advocated would destroy this country and our sovereignty.


27 posted on 08/26/2013 3:00:19 PM PDT by Sheapdog (Chew the meat, spit out the bones - FUBO - Come and get me)
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To: AdaGray

Amen brother! Racism was all but dead until Obama came along and “brought the nation together” With his second, Eric “my people” Holder.
Beware, the race baiting is designed to create a phony crisis in 2016 that will allow the declaration of martial law. End of the USA beginning of the Obama dictatorship. And, yes, I know there is ample evidence that it’s already begun.


28 posted on 08/26/2013 3:00:51 PM PDT by mistfree (Their & There, they're not the same)
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To: neverdem

I’m prejudice. I like white folks who work, keep their houses clean, don’t do drugs, don’t belong to a gang etc etc


29 posted on 08/26/2013 3:06:26 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: dfwgator

Bingo! Black gangsta “culture” is sick, sick, sick. But too many people profit from it to change it by mere talking.


30 posted on 08/26/2013 3:09:06 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Sacajaweau
I’m prejudiced. I like white folks who work, keep their houses clean, don’t do drugs, don’t belong to a gang, etc., etc.
31 posted on 08/26/2013 3:12:00 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Ask me about the Weiner Wager. Support Free Republic!)
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To: neverdem
Hanging over and complicating this and many other issues is the fact that Liberals simply cannot admit they're wrong. Ever. About anything. In their eyes, the "Great Society" and the "revolution" of the 1960s succeeded brilliantly for blacks, who are still being oppressed, and still struggling against The Man! This epidemic of violence is nothing more than those damn right-wingers being racist again! Similarly, even though the latest data again shows "global warming" to be complete bunk, they will undergo the most severe contortions possible to avoid admitting they were suckered into a hoax.
32 posted on 08/26/2013 3:12:49 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: neverdem
feh...
33 posted on 08/26/2013 3:17:07 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: onyx

bump


34 posted on 08/26/2013 3:19:02 PM PDT by Tomato lover ( Jesus is Lord of all)
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To: neverdem
Long, the alleged accomplice, is white

He is light-skinned but doubtful if he is white.

If this was a local Crips gang as claimed -- they wouldn't take a white guy into their ranks.

Though, maybe Oklahoma is different?

35 posted on 08/26/2013 3:26:53 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: dfwgator

Agreed!


36 posted on 08/26/2013 3:27:25 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Words in general have no meaning to anyone on the left. The only things they seem to embrace are suffering, sacrifice and death. They seem to distort all words to fit into those meanings. If it does not imply pain of some sort it holds no meaning to them. They relish in the ill fortunes of others. Most especially the plight of the black man. Every action they take drives them deeper down the death spiral.


37 posted on 08/26/2013 3:28:15 PM PDT by formosa
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To: neverdem

We are way past any ‘discussion’ about race.

We need to have a discussion about the undeclared war ‘feral youths’ have declared on whites of all ages.

We all must plan to be George Zimmerman when the time comes.


38 posted on 08/26/2013 3:30:34 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (When America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: AdaGray

“”Racism wasn’t really an issue until Barry O came along””

DITTO!!!


39 posted on 08/26/2013 3:33:20 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: neverdem

There will not be a discussion on race, because the moment a normal person says the truth, he’s called racist.


40 posted on 08/26/2013 3:39:46 PM PDT by I want the USA back
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