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Obama’s new executive order will kill the 110-year-old Civilian Marksmanship Program
Daily Caller ^ | 8/28/13 | Mike Piccione

Posted on 08/29/2013 3:56:36 PM PDT by Nachum

The White House announced on Thursday that it intends to “ban almost all re-imports of military surplus firearms to private entities” through executive order, which would effectively shut down the 110-year-old Civilian Marksmanship Program.

In a Fact Sheet published on Whitehouse.gov today referencing the upcoming executive order the ban on importing military weapons is designed to “keep military-grade firearms off our streets.” Exceptions for import may be allowed for museums.

The CMP tightly controls the importation of obsolete military weapons. The program was created by the U.S. Congress as part of the 1903 War Department Appropriations Act with the purpose of allowing civilians to hone their marksmanship skills, should they later be called into military service.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; cmp; executive; guncontrol; guntrust; marksmanship; obamas; order; secondamendment
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Comin' fer yer guns
1 posted on 08/29/2013 3:56:36 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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2 posted on 08/29/2013 3:57:17 PM PDT by Nachum (I am Breitbartacus!)
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To: Nachum

Yeah, because CMP firearms are devastating the inner city. I despise these asshats.


3 posted on 08/29/2013 3:57:37 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Nachum

He can only do this if congress allows it. Throw his EO in the trash where it belongs.


4 posted on 08/29/2013 3:58:41 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Yeah, I’m sure there are lots of M1 Garands and M1 Carbines in the hands of gang members.


5 posted on 08/29/2013 4:01:35 PM PDT by ssapro (SSAPRO/ EXBP)
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To: Nachum

Kicking myself in the arse for never getting that Garand.


6 posted on 08/29/2013 4:01:49 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: I got the rope

I’m a bit concerned of a risk that our Imperial ‘Resident’s trashing the Constitution may trigger a pendulum swing in the other direction, handicapping the office for when we get a Real President. The net effect is 0’ getting away with murder, and then, say, a President Cruz would lack power to undo and retract the damage.


7 posted on 08/29/2013 4:02:52 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: ssapro

Of course, something had to replace all the Springfields and Krags... not to mention those evil Mossberg 44US target rifles.


8 posted on 08/29/2013 4:03:03 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Nachum

I’m surprised they didn’t have that waiting for him to sign after his first inauguration in 2009.


9 posted on 08/29/2013 4:03:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: Nachum
As of late pickings from the CMP have been really scarce. Ammo has been out and there have been no Krags, Springfields or Enfields to be had. M-1 Garands have been rare and by auction only as have been the M-1 Carbines. There are plenty of Kimber .22 Match rifles.
10 posted on 08/29/2013 4:04:34 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Nachum

Congress needs to take him to court for legislating through EO.


11 posted on 08/29/2013 4:04:49 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: savedbygrace

Congress needs to impeach him now. Bring it to a vote just before the election, and then throw it to the Senate as the new Senate comes in.


12 posted on 08/29/2013 4:05:52 PM PDT by Nachum (I am Breitbartacus!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Exactly. I own a Garand, carbine and a 1903 A 3. Gee, does that make me an evil gun owner?


13 posted on 08/29/2013 4:06:07 PM PDT by ssapro (SSAPRO/ EXBP)
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To: ssapro

The very devil incarnate. But with good taste.


14 posted on 08/29/2013 4:07:36 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Nachum

If Bush did just one percent of what Obama is doing .... where’s the MSM outrage of Constitutional rights being usurped by this moron?


15 posted on 08/29/2013 4:07:53 PM PDT by SkyDancer (A white woman would be accused of racism if she gave birth to a white baby.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

NRA lawsuit in 3.....2.....1..... Not on our watch Erkel !

Stay safe Slim !


16 posted on 08/29/2013 4:10:28 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Nachum
"Just another brick in the wall."

5.56mm

17 posted on 08/29/2013 4:10:49 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Nachum

We must have been posting this at nearly the exact same time. LOL!


18 posted on 08/29/2013 4:11:30 PM PDT by rktman (Inergalactic background checks? King hussein you're first up.)
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To: Nachum

Does he have the authority to do this?


19 posted on 08/29/2013 4:14:40 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Nachum

Of course. He destroys all worthwhile things and foists on us all things perverse and useless.


20 posted on 08/29/2013 4:15:32 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Squantos

Hey Buddy! I don’t think I’m driving the rocket fast enough, I’m getting over 25 mpg!


21 posted on 08/29/2013 4:16:10 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: ssapro

My military 30-06 Springfield rifle converted into a hunting weapon is problematic to these people? To a deer or moose, maybe.


22 posted on 08/29/2013 4:16:43 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Nachum
In a Fact Sheet published on Whitehouse.gov today referencing the upcoming executive order the ban on importing military weapons is designed to “keep military-grade firearms off our streets.”

Well, except for Federal, state & local law enforcement Brute Squads. They NEED military-grade firearms on our streets.

I'm not sure why - they must be at war with someone...

23 posted on 08/29/2013 4:18:51 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: SkyDancer

“.... where’s the MSM outrage of Constitutional rights being usurped by this moron?<

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You’re assuming that the MSM gives a hoot about the Constitution.


24 posted on 08/29/2013 4:20:59 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

LOL.... Rubber side down dang it !

My 84 vette got 26mpg ..... Yer doing fine and fast enough if that rig is getting 25..... Any more foot in it and yer gonna be dragging yer cowboy boots in asphalt !


25 posted on 08/29/2013 4:21:40 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Nachum
which would effectively shut down the 110-year-old Civilian Marksmanship Program

Well, that's what Obama's is good at.
Finding programs that work - and kill them.

All the while finding programs that fail, and throw more of our money at them.

26 posted on 08/29/2013 4:21:49 PM PDT by grobdriver
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To: Nachum

Didn’t Clinton try the same thing with questionable results?
That is as much of a clown action as I’ve seen. When was the last time you saw anyone use an M1 Garand in a holdup?
Obama should be wearing big shoes and a red round nose. What a piece of dog waste. The part about street thugs regestering guns under a corporate name is something they will have to explain to me. There are checks within the Bureau of Tobacco and Firearms against this kind of thing. A man walks into a gun store and tries to register a gun under a corporate name. What happens? The guy asks for proof. Where does the guy get any proof of association with the corporation? This is just political bull!


27 posted on 08/29/2013 4:22:55 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: Nachum

When they do, please tell me he will be leading.


28 posted on 08/29/2013 4:24:13 PM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: 353FMG

Right - my bad.


29 posted on 08/29/2013 4:25:27 PM PDT by SkyDancer (A white woman would be accused of racism if she gave birth to a white baby.)
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To: mylife
Kicking myself in the arse for never getting that Garand.

Me too, or I'd even settle for the M1 Carbine. Heck, I wished I bought a Nagant rifle or Lee-Enfield when I had a chance.
30 posted on 08/29/2013 4:28:21 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (It is about time we re-enact Normandy, at the shores of the Potomac.)
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To: Nachum

Since the Congress does nothing I assume they agree!! B@stards all!!


31 posted on 08/29/2013 4:30:33 PM PDT by Isabel2010
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To: Nachum

Impeach, remove, execute with firing squad of M1 Garands.


32 posted on 08/29/2013 4:33:10 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Nowhere Man

Nagants are still plentiful, and while not GI issue, Auto Ordinance is still producing the M1 carbine.


33 posted on 08/29/2013 4:35:32 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

34 posted on 08/29/2013 4:37:08 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Nachum

Is ole Joe a little clueless here? How many crimes have been committed using a 1917 Enfleld? How often? Once a week? Once a month? Once a year? Once a decade? Once Ever? How many street thugs are drooling for a bolt action rifle that hold FIVE ROUNDS .... oooh and get to fumble with a CLIP to cram the cartridges in ... uh, how many??

Oh, and I almost forgot to mention that an old rifle that’s dang near FIVE FEET long is SO much the hidden armament ..

Yeah boy, that’s really going to drop the crime rate in the cities!


35 posted on 08/29/2013 4:37:32 PM PDT by Joined2Justify (sure am glad the government never lied to me)
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To: Nachum

As far as I know, this was the only federal program that wasn’t at best indifferent to the original intent of the Second Amendment. Most of them are outright hostile about it.


36 posted on 08/29/2013 4:38:18 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Nachum

The CMP gets its rifles from the military, not from foreign imports. The last batches came from Greece, Italy, Denmark and a few from Germany and were loaned to those countries after WWII under the Military Assistance Program. When they are through with them, they will return them. There are other European countries with rifles that were loaned to them under the MAP and depending on the country, they may or may not be coming back to the US.


37 posted on 08/29/2013 4:38:24 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the people. T Jefferson)
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To: Nachum
Haven't read the executive order, but the CMP does not import. It gets its rifles from the Army which gets them as returns from foreign Governments that borrowed the rifles in decades past. Accordingly if the ban is on importation by commercial organizations there should not been an issue.

OTOH the current batch of Garands and M-1 Carbines awaiting importation from Korea would be held up. As Korea is looking to sell the rifles to importers rather than return rifles to the US Army. One of the controversies is whether the Korean rifles are loaners or whether the Koreans bought them from Uncle Sam ... they did some of both apparently.

38 posted on 08/29/2013 4:38:53 PM PDT by R W Reactionairy ("Everyone is entitled to their own opinion ... but not to their own facts" Daniel Patrick Moynihan)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I am still seething about the destruction of all the Garands and Carbines that were to be returned from South Korea. What a waste.


39 posted on 08/29/2013 4:40:36 PM PDT by Temujinshordes
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To: Nachum

FUBO

I can’t stand this crapola. We are done for. THREE more years of this???

Rule by Kingly Decree


40 posted on 08/29/2013 4:42:47 PM PDT by GRRRRR (He'll NEVER be my President, FUBO! Treason is the Reason! Impeach the Kenyan)
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To: Nachum
Colonel "Bat" Guano is gonna be pissed!


41 posted on 08/29/2013 4:42:53 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

DONT WAIT !!


42 posted on 08/29/2013 4:44:20 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: Nachum

It is what the people want. It is what they voted for.


43 posted on 08/29/2013 4:44:36 PM PDT by sport
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To: Delta 21

There is precious little left.


44 posted on 08/29/2013 4:47:00 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Temujinshordes

Those haven’t been destroyed AFAIK. Those rifles were purchased from the US by S Korea. Private importers have been trying for years to get permission to import them, held up by both the Bush and Obama administrations. IIRC, the CMP is not authorized to act as a firearms importer.


45 posted on 08/29/2013 4:49:05 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the people. T Jefferson)
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To: mylife
Kicking myself in the arse for never getting that Garand.

For once I was head of the curve.

46 posted on 08/29/2013 4:53:27 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Nachum

Meanwhile, Congress ignores the American people, ya think?


47 posted on 08/29/2013 4:56:23 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Last Dakotan

Now you just need some ammo.
I am afraid the new BATF guy may interpret this as banning the importation of military grade ammo too.


48 posted on 08/29/2013 4:56:41 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Temujinshordes

P.S. I think the S Korea rifles are all in shipping containers in S Korea.


49 posted on 08/29/2013 4:57:03 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the people. T Jefferson)
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To: Nachum
More evidence the lying POS doesn't give a rat's a*s about gun crime - he wants an unarmed, compliant public.

*&% him.

50 posted on 08/29/2013 4:57:10 PM PDT by skeeter
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