Skip to comments.EU plans to fit all cars with speed limiters
Posted on 09/01/2013 7:18:32 PM PDT by driftdiver
Under the proposals new cars would be fitted with cameras that could read road speed limit signs and automatically apply the brakes when this is exceeded.
Patrick McLoughlin, the Transport Secretary, is said to be opposed to the plans, which could also mean existing cars are sent to garages to be fitted with the speed limiters, preventing them from going over 70mph.
The new measures have been announced by the European Commissions Mobility and Transport Department as a measure to reduce the 30,000 people who die on the roads in Europe every year.
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
And the Krauts are going to go along with this?
It’ll make passing combines and slow grain trucks more dangerous.
A police state is a safe state. /sarc
I had a BMW limited to 95, didn’t care for it.
And kids would never paint over signs with higher or lower speeds...
Its coming to the US if we don’t get rid of these nanny staters.
well there ya go,
Put an image of a 200 MPH sign on the camera lens.
The Lear Jet Leftists will find a way to exempted as they speed about in their Teslas.
how will all the Maserati, Lambroghini, Jaguar, Corvette, etc etc etc etc.......drivers like this?
I have a 2003 GMC Envoy Denali that disengaged the transmission over 105mph. "Disengaged" means the transmission literally floated until the vehicle slowed down to 105 before it'd accelerate again.
Hooked up my laptop to the computer, 10 minutes later throttle control and torque management turned off. Problem solved. It'll bury 120 now and has pedal left. Used to be a dog from a dead stop. Punch the gas pedal it literally sat there. Now it at least leaves a little rubber on the pavement. Obviously I don't give a damn about the MPG which weren't all that great to begin with at 15/21.
America demands Justice for the Fallen of Benghazi!
when the remote government automatically applies the brakes in your vehicle,
you are not riding in a safe conveyance
the remote government cannot see or respond to highway or traffic hazards where you are driving
will they pay if their remote controls on your car cause a big accident?
Britain fights EUs Big Brother bid to fit every car with speed limiter
Mail on Sunday (UK) | 03:43 EST, 1 September 2013 | Glen Owen
Posted on 09/01/2013 6:36:45 PM PDT by Olog-hai
Makes it easier to catch terrorists. Yeah, that’s it.
I like my Ford’s..
Yeah its in the chip, I should have fixed it by now but I got used keeping ‘er down to 90.. unless some dude in a GMC tries to pass..
It will likely take one day for some brainiac to come up with a hack to bypass the limiter and post the how-to instructions on the internet.
LOL!! The difference between Ford and GMC on this one is that Ford embeds it on the chip. If you want to "fix" the problem, you have to find an aftermarket chip and replace it. Not necessarily a hard job to do, unless Ford put it in the transmission rather than an onboard computer.
GMC (at least for 2002, 2003, 2004 and I think 2005) didn't put torque management or throttle control on the chip - they put it in software.
I found a guy down in southern Indiana who sold a re-programming kit for the GMC's, claiming he could either program the computer to get better gas mileage, or more power out of the engine. It didn't take much to figure out that he was simply changing a couple of bytes in the code to enable/disable certain features to increase power. His "claim to fame" was that he "cleaned up" GMC's bad code in his program which in turn delivered better fuel efficiency in the vehicle.
How much? He claimed he could boost the highway MPG on a 4200 I-6 GMC from 21 to 25mpg and boost the horsepower to boot.
Never bought his kit, but figured out by plugging in a laptop and bringing up an old version of Norton Editor to read the machine code in the computer that I could just as easily change the bits to turn off the torque management and throttle control. (Those changes are published on the net.) Did it myself, saved $250 for his "programming code" and haven't looked back. My gas mileage before the change was on average 16/22. Post change it's 15/22.
I'll give up the 1mpg for better drive-ability of the vehicle. I drive a whopping 8 miles a day anyway, so the miniscule decrease in mpg isn't going to kill me. (Driving this thing up to hunting camp is alot more fun too.)
Here, they’ll just issue an automatic speeding ticket...
80,000 Euros for a 600 MBZ sedan and it can only go 115 KPH? RIIIGHT.
“It will likely take one day for some brainiac to come up with a hack to bypass the limiter and post the how-to instructions on the internet.”
In California, based on my experience, they’d quickly outlaw the bypass with a hefty fine, and impose mandatory, frequent and costly inspections on car owners, so they can check.
I do wonder how well forcing people who already own their cars to install the device would go over.
Force the automakers to install it, well, maybe. If they make it a requirement like an air bag. They’d have no choice.
Tell me to install it in my bought and paid for car? over my dead body..
Then again.. They are forcing me to buy health insurance....
The comments on the website give me hope that all is not lost in Europe. I think that Obama’s Fellow Travelers in Brussels may have overreached here. I liked the one involving rope and duct tape very much.
The technology doesn’t need cameras; these proposals were obviously from the minds of moronic socialists, and it will take engineers to make it work, probably with encoded radio signals. Of course, the possibilities of abuse are endless, the most obvious being the setting of all of the speed limits to zero.
It’s really too bad that Europe, lubricated with the blood of a lot of good people (European and otherwise), enjoyed most of the 20th century in a state of relative individual freedom, opportunity, and equality - which, of course, it cannot easily maintain because it is not Europe’s natural state, that state involving royalty and peasants/serfs (serfs being for all intents and purposes, slaves).
We've got an app for that ...
“I do wonder how well forcing people who already own their cars to install the device would go over.”
Oh, don’t worry about this. They will make an older car not so equipped impossible to license. And our idiotic pollution testing goes on here all the time with nary a grumble...
So the government is going to apply brakes to my vehicle and we have smart meters so they can turn off our electricity when they decide we’ve used too much. What’s next? Shutting down our computer when we log on to a Conservative website?
Ya, I thought about that, except that the Fed does not handle licensing the cars. States do. And while some will go along with it, I doubt all will.
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Like rust, totalitarians never sleep.
This will make for interesting chase scenes in movies.
"And for my final Executive Order of the day, I hereby revoke the right of states to license motor vehicles. Starting tomorrow, all former state license bureaus will be run by armed employees of the IRS."
“Ya, I thought about that, except that the Fed does not handle licensing the cars. States do. And while some will go along with it, I doubt all will.”
...but, California has so much “pull”, with over 10% of the population and even more car purchases, that CARB has an inordinate pull over the rest of the states; and, also, the Fed has already coerced the states to do many things that they didn’t want to do by threat of withholding federal funds (which came from the people in the states, of course), like pollution testing, speed limits, drinking ages, and so on.