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EU plans to fit all cars with speed limiters
the telegraph ^ | Sept 1, 2013 | Claire Carter

Posted on 09/01/2013 7:18:32 PM PDT by driftdiver

Under the proposals new cars would be fitted with cameras that could read road speed limit signs and automatically apply the brakes when this is exceeded.

Patrick McLoughlin, the Transport Secretary, is said to be opposed to the plans, which could also mean existing cars are sent to garages to be fitted with the speed limiters, preventing them from going over 70mph.

The new measures have been announced by the European Commission’s Mobility and Transport Department as a measure to reduce the 30,000 people who die on the roads in Europe every year.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: europeanunion
Its for the Chilldrun of course
1 posted on 09/01/2013 7:18:32 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver

And the Krauts are going to go along with this?


2 posted on 09/01/2013 7:20:54 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: driftdiver

It’ll make passing combines and slow grain trucks more dangerous.


3 posted on 09/01/2013 7:21:32 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: driftdiver

A police state is a safe state. /sarc


4 posted on 09/01/2013 7:21:54 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the people. T Jefferson)
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To: driftdiver

I had a BMW limited to 95, didn’t care for it.


5 posted on 09/01/2013 7:22:50 PM PDT by razorback-bert (I'm in shape. Round is a shape isn't it?)
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To: driftdiver

And kids would never paint over signs with higher or lower speeds...


6 posted on 09/01/2013 7:23:40 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: razorback-bert

Its coming to the US if we don’t get rid of these nanny staters.


7 posted on 09/01/2013 7:23:47 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
Ford has been doing it since at least 2001..every time hit 93mph in my 2001 truck with 470,000 miles on it conks out..which is more dangerous in my opinion..
8 posted on 09/01/2013 7:25:48 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: montanajoe

well there ya go,


9 posted on 09/01/2013 7:28:11 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Put an image of a 200 MPH sign on the camera lens.


10 posted on 09/01/2013 7:28:28 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: driftdiver

The Lear Jet Leftists will find a way to exempted as they speed about in their Teslas.


11 posted on 09/01/2013 7:30:24 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: driftdiver

how will all the Maserati, Lambroghini, Jaguar, Corvette, etc etc etc etc.......drivers like this?


12 posted on 09/01/2013 7:31:13 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (E)
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To: montanajoe
I dunno, the fact you have 470,000 miles on a Ford and it hasn't died on the side of the road yet is pretty damn' impressive by itself!

I have a 2003 GMC Envoy Denali that disengaged the transmission over 105mph. "Disengaged" means the transmission literally floated until the vehicle slowed down to 105 before it'd accelerate again.

Hooked up my laptop to the computer, 10 minutes later throttle control and torque management turned off. Problem solved. It'll bury 120 now and has pedal left. Used to be a dog from a dead stop. Punch the gas pedal it literally sat there. Now it at least leaves a little rubber on the pavement. Obviously I don't give a damn about the MPG which weren't all that great to begin with at 15/21.

13 posted on 09/01/2013 7:31:19 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: driftdiver
70 mph? I usually hit that before I get out of the driveway!



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14 posted on 09/01/2013 7:32:53 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: driftdiver

when the remote government automatically applies the brakes in your vehicle,

you are not riding in a safe conveyance

the remote government cannot see or respond to highway or traffic hazards where you are driving

will they pay if their remote controls on your car cause a big accident?


15 posted on 09/01/2013 7:33:06 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (E)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks driftdiver.

Britain fights EU’s ‘Big Brother’ bid to fit every car with speed limiter
Mail on Sunday (UK) | 03:43 EST, 1 September 2013 | Glen Owen
Posted on 09/01/2013 6:36:45 PM PDT by Olog-hai
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3061413/posts


16 posted on 09/01/2013 7:34:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: driftdiver

Makes it easier to catch terrorists. Yeah, that’s it.


17 posted on 09/01/2013 7:37:12 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: usconservative

I like my Ford’s..

Yeah its in the chip, I should have fixed it by now but I got used keeping ‘er down to 90.. unless some dude in a GMC tries to pass..


18 posted on 09/01/2013 7:39:00 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: driftdiver

It will likely take one day for some brainiac to come up with a hack to bypass the limiter and post the how-to instructions on the internet.


19 posted on 09/01/2013 8:01:46 PM PDT by howlinhound (Live your life so that, when you get up in the morning, Satan says, "Oh Crap!..He's awake" - Unknown)
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To: montanajoe
unless some dude in a GMC tries to pass..

LOL!! The difference between Ford and GMC on this one is that Ford embeds it on the chip. If you want to "fix" the problem, you have to find an aftermarket chip and replace it. Not necessarily a hard job to do, unless Ford put it in the transmission rather than an onboard computer.

GMC (at least for 2002, 2003, 2004 and I think 2005) didn't put torque management or throttle control on the chip - they put it in software.

I found a guy down in southern Indiana who sold a re-programming kit for the GMC's, claiming he could either program the computer to get better gas mileage, or more power out of the engine. It didn't take much to figure out that he was simply changing a couple of bytes in the code to enable/disable certain features to increase power. His "claim to fame" was that he "cleaned up" GMC's bad code in his program which in turn delivered better fuel efficiency in the vehicle.

How much? He claimed he could boost the highway MPG on a 4200 I-6 GMC from 21 to 25mpg and boost the horsepower to boot.

Never bought his kit, but figured out by plugging in a laptop and bringing up an old version of Norton Editor to read the machine code in the computer that I could just as easily change the bits to turn off the torque management and throttle control. (Those changes are published on the net.) Did it myself, saved $250 for his "programming code" and haven't looked back. My gas mileage before the change was on average 16/22. Post change it's 15/22.

I'll give up the 1mpg for better drive-ability of the vehicle. I drive a whopping 8 miles a day anyway, so the miniscule decrease in mpg isn't going to kill me. (Driving this thing up to hunting camp is alot more fun too.)

20 posted on 09/01/2013 8:11:30 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: driftdiver

Here, they’ll just issue an automatic speeding ticket...


21 posted on 09/01/2013 8:19:03 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: driftdiver

80,000 Euros for a 600 MBZ sedan and it can only go 115 KPH? RIIIGHT.


22 posted on 09/01/2013 8:20:09 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (The Presidency is broken.)
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To: driftdiver
When reached for comment the stig had nothing to say. But his look said it all. He does not approve.
the stig photo: STIG Stig.jpg
23 posted on 09/01/2013 8:22:59 PM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: howlinhound

“It will likely take one day for some brainiac to come up with a hack to bypass the limiter and post the how-to instructions on the internet.”

In California, based on my experience, they’d quickly outlaw the bypass with a hefty fine, and impose mandatory, frequent and costly inspections on car owners, so they can check.


24 posted on 09/01/2013 8:23:29 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: driftdiver
“Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you.” ― Jeremy Clarkson
25 posted on 09/01/2013 8:25:25 PM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: rightwingcrazy

I do wonder how well forcing people who already own their cars to install the device would go over.

Force the automakers to install it, well, maybe. If they make it a requirement like an air bag. They’d have no choice.

Tell me to install it in my bought and paid for car? over my dead body..

Then again.. They are forcing me to buy health insurance....


26 posted on 09/01/2013 8:29:05 PM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: rightwingcrazy

The comments on the website give me hope that all is not lost in Europe. I think that Obama’s Fellow Travelers in Brussels may have overreached here. I liked the one involving rope and duct tape very much.

The technology doesn’t need cameras; these proposals were obviously from the minds of moronic socialists, and it will take engineers to make it work, probably with encoded radio signals. Of course, the possibilities of abuse are endless, the most obvious being the setting of all of the speed limits to zero.

It’s really too bad that Europe, lubricated with the blood of a lot of good people (European and otherwise), enjoyed most of the 20th century in a state of relative individual freedom, opportunity, and equality - which, of course, it cannot easily maintain because it is not Europe’s natural state, that state involving royalty and peasants/serfs (serfs being for all intents and purposes, slaves).


27 posted on 09/01/2013 8:35:00 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: driftdiver

We've got an app for that ...

28 posted on 09/01/2013 8:36:28 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: cableguymn

“I do wonder how well forcing people who already own their cars to install the device would go over.”

Oh, don’t worry about this. They will make an older car not so equipped impossible to license. And our idiotic pollution testing goes on here all the time with nary a grumble...


29 posted on 09/01/2013 8:37:20 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: faithhopecharity

So the government is going to apply brakes to my vehicle and we have smart meters so they can turn off our electricity when they decide we’ve used too much. What’s next? Shutting down our computer when we log on to a Conservative website?


30 posted on 09/01/2013 8:46:38 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: The Antiyuppie

Ya, I thought about that, except that the Fed does not handle licensing the cars. States do. And while some will go along with it, I doubt all will.


31 posted on 09/01/2013 8:48:22 PM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: Grams A

Sorry cant respond. Something Blocking the connecti.......


32 posted on 09/01/2013 8:52:30 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (E)
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To: driftdiver

Like rust, totalitarians never sleep.


33 posted on 09/01/2013 9:13:02 PM PDT by allblues (God is neither a Republican nor a Democrat but Satan is definitely a Democrat)
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To: driftdiver
Under the proposals new cars would be fitted with cameras that could read road speed limit signs and automatically apply the brakes when this is exceeded.

George Orwell was too optimistic, if anything.
34 posted on 09/01/2013 9:14:33 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: driftdiver

This will make for interesting chase scenes in movies.


35 posted on 09/02/2013 5:39:18 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: cableguymn
the Fed does not handle licensing the cars. States do.

"And for my final Executive Order of the day, I hereby revoke the right of states to license motor vehicles. Starting tomorrow, all former state license bureaus will be run by armed employees of the IRS."

36 posted on 09/02/2013 5:46:14 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: cableguymn

“Ya, I thought about that, except that the Fed does not handle licensing the cars. States do. And while some will go along with it, I doubt all will.”

...but, California has so much “pull”, with over 10% of the population and even more car purchases, that CARB has an inordinate pull over the rest of the states; and, also, the Fed has already coerced the states to do many things that they didn’t want to do by threat of withholding federal funds (which came from the people in the states, of course), like pollution testing, speed limits, drinking ages, and so on.


37 posted on 09/02/2013 6:35:55 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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