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Red Line in the Sand: A Question
vanity | Sep 3, 2013 | generally

Posted on 09/03/2013 7:05:09 PM PDT by generally

What prompted 0bama to draw the red line in the first place? (He normally only comments on race-baiting and LGBT issues, sports, and gun control or similar freedom-limiting topics.)

Why did he specify Syria as opposed to any other country? Was Syria threatening to use chemical weapons? Does he have some special interest in Syria? Do other countries have free rein to use chemical weapons without fear of reprisal from the 0bama administration?

What is the supposed reason for US involvement here as opposed to anywhere else where atrocities are committed?

Was this all a pre-planned setup to give 0bama an excuse to get the US involved in Syria? If so, who is behind it and how do they benefit?


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 911truthers; iran; lebanon; randsconcerntrolls; syria
The whole business smells fishy to me, and despite reading several sources, I can't find any straight answers or good background. I'm hoping some of the FReepers who are more on top of this can sum it up succinctly and shed some light.

Thanks in advance.

1 posted on 09/03/2013 7:05:09 PM PDT by generally
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Having already transferred MANPADs to al Qaeda in Libya,
and SAMs to al Qaeda in Egypt,
THIS IS AN NEW OPPORTUNITY for the Tyrant to give
al Qaeda sarin and other WMD (and yet another country).

Why?

To allow them to further attack Israel and,
through the wide open borders, the disarmed American people.


2 posted on 09/03/2013 7:08:15 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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What prompted 0bama to draw the red line in the first place?

I was under the impression it took place last year. Campaign tough guy bluster for his reelection?


3 posted on 09/03/2013 7:11:56 PM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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"It's all part of the plan, son. Your average Commie doesn't take a dump without a plan."
4 posted on 09/03/2013 7:12:44 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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What prompted 0bama to draw the red line in the first place?

He, more than any other perhaps, bought the sales pitch that his election to the presidency would soothe the savage beasts of the world. He thought his mere pronouncement of a "red line" would 'ooh' and 'aah' Assad into submission. After all, Obama is the one someone's been waiting for, said someone.

Obama is a child. He was told from birth that he was special simply because he drew breath, and has believed it ever since due in large part to a simpering liberal cesspool of political correctness that permeates academia, the media and the thimble-sized brains of liberals.

In other words, he has absolutely no conception of the real world. Or, in the alternative, he is evil.
5 posted on 09/03/2013 7:15:13 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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The “Red Line” tough-guy talk is the easy part.

Backing it up is something else.


6 posted on 09/03/2013 7:17:06 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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He was pretending to be the tough guy he never was. Now that his bluff has been called he doesn't know what the hell to do.

I can GUARANTEE you he was picked on a lot when he was in school. He NEVER fought back and probably cowered to even the smallest one on the playground.

In other words, he's a pussy.

7 posted on 09/03/2013 7:17:28 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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What prompted 0bama to draw the red line in the first place?

Valerie Jarrett told him to.

8 posted on 09/03/2013 7:18:10 PM PDT by South40
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The whole business smells fishy to me...

This thread might shed some insight on your *fishy* instincts....

Something 'very fishy' about this Syria thing [Vanity]

9 posted on 09/03/2013 7:19:53 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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We have known for a while that Assad’s regime have had chemical weapons stockpiled. They are much more advanced in terms of weaponry compared to many of their Arab neighbors. When it became clear that Assad was hunkering down for the long haul to wait out this ‘Arab Spring’, and the amount of people slaughtered began to rise, many were speculating that chemical weapons would be deployed if Assad became desperate.

Obama, on the campaign trail, was being attacked on this issue mainly by credible mainstream news reporters (not many left), and looked bad on a humanitarian view, because he was taking no action against Assad when he did feel compelled to take out Gaddafi.
Obama is also an inept tool. His foreign policy experience can probably be summed up in the fact that he once consulted an Indian man on hanging curtains.
So, Obama drew a ‘red line’ on the much whispered about chemical weapons usage, hoping it would never come to that so it wouldn’t interfere with internal politics in which he was destroying the weak GOP time and time again.

Then, disaster struck. Chemical weapons were reportedly used. By who, we don’t know. Despite McLame’s ranting, it could easily be the rebels, and tactically it makes more sense for them than Assad to use the weapons, since the dictator was having much success just using conventional weaponry, mainly his air force and shelling capabilities.

So, now the ‘international community’, Amnesty International, Jordan (who are annoyed about the refugees), the Saudis (who have their own machinations), Turkey (again, Muslim Brotherhood agenda), various other forces including McQueeg and Gayham, began to back Obama into a corner. There was no escape. He looked weak. The optics were not good. So now, the president has gone full LORD OF WAR.

Easy enough. He got media cover on Libya...

Then the UK voted NO, and suddenly Obama is being accused preemptively of criminal action by Ban Ki Moon, the Russians insulting him, he’s being called GW Bush II. Not good.
New plan: get congressional approval! Get McCain and Linda to win the senate with their ‘seniority’ not at all counteracted by the feckless GOP leadership under Mighty Mouse Mitch, and just hope the House votes against the interests of America. Perhaps create phony evidence of Assad using chemical weapons and use loyalist generals in private hearings to intimidate members. Who’ll ever know, right? If congress says its okay, the Limbaugh Theorem will dictate that the American people will blame congress, and Obama will look like an ‘outsider’ trying to fix things.

That’s where we are now. This is why it is IMPERATIVE, we focus on getting the House to vote no. The chaos ensuing from Pelosi and Boner’s lack of whipping creates a single chance to stop this horrible blunder. For all O’Reilly’s bloviating, he is right that this vote could finish president Obama, just in time for major issues like Obamacare and the debt ceiling. This is the moment. Public opinion is behind us. We must get the House to vote NO!!!


10 posted on 09/03/2013 7:22:23 PM PDT by Viennacon
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Col. Allen West is going to be on Greta.... should be good.


11 posted on 09/03/2013 7:23:26 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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More great "Red Line" analysis, by El Rushbo, here:

Bodansky: What If Bashar Didn't Do It?

12 posted on 09/03/2013 7:27:35 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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It’s always about money with Obama and the Democrats. Israel just discovered a huge oil/gas deposit off their coast. That’s the same coast Syria has. Somebody posted about a pipeline through Syria. I haven’t looked at that. Look for Soros and the Saudis. The Russians are also big time players in oil and gas. I believe China has passed the US to become the biggest importer of foreign oil. We use and produce oil, too. I hate to see us kill Syrians for Soros or Saudi Arabia.


13 posted on 09/03/2013 7:32:35 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Arab Spring


14 posted on 09/03/2013 8:29:41 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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When he made the 'red line' comment he had Egypt as a potential pool of Brothers to be sent into Syria to back up his threats. Now that they have inconveniently overthrown the Brothers, Dear Leader's plans have to change.

Question still remains, 'Who' does Dear Leader, and the likes of McCain and Graham have to answer to in all of this? (That was rhetorical. The answer is the house of Saud)
15 posted on 09/03/2013 11:11:17 PM PDT by Dissident1
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