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Boy Scout alternative, Trail Life USA, launches Ďpremierí Christian group for boys
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/7/boy-scout-alternative-trail-life-usa-launches-prem/?p ^ | Saturday, September 7, 2013 | By Cheryl Wetzstein

Posted on 09/07/2013 9:43:55 AM PDT by B4Ranch

The newly announced Trail Life USA expects to become a “premier” Christian organization for boys and young men when it fully launches in the new year.

Its goal is to counter the “moral free-fall” of the nation, and “raise a generation of faithful husbands, fathers, citizens and leaders,” organizers told the national inaugural convention in Nashville, Tenn., Friday night.

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Trail Life USA’s name, drawn from more than 300 options, was carefully vetted and is intended not to be political or controversial, organizers said.

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“Our whole life is about the trail, both in the outdoors and in the journey of life as believers,” he said. “So Trail Life is a way of life that is centered on following Christ in the outdoors.”

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However, it will not admit youth who are open or avowed about their homosexuality, and it will not admit boys who are not “biologically male” or boys who wish to dress and act like girls.

Adult leaders of Trail Life USA will be Christians who sign a statement of faith and submit to background checks. Both boys and adults will be required to adhere to a code of conduct.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bsa; scouting; scouts; sourcetitlenoturl; traillifeusa
Please support this group. The full membership policy can be read online at www.TrailLifeUSA.com. For more information churches, parents and former BSA members can check out the TL website at www.TrailLifeUSA.com or contact Info@TrailLifeUSA.com.
1 posted on 09/07/2013 9:43:55 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch

Think I’ll post that to my profile page.


2 posted on 09/07/2013 9:46:09 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: B4Ranch

Homosexual lawsuits in 3...2...1...


3 posted on 09/07/2013 9:46:13 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: B4Ranch

Bump


4 posted on 09/07/2013 9:48:43 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: onedoug

Yep. They don’t want in they just like to create trouble because King Queer is in power right now


5 posted on 09/07/2013 9:50:29 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: B4Ranch
In contrast, Trail Life USA will...accept boys who are experiencing same-sex attractions or gender confusion.

However, it will not admit youth who are open or avowed about their homosexuality...

So if they think they might be homosexual then they can join, but once they become convinced of it they have to go?

6 posted on 09/07/2013 9:55:01 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: B4Ranch; onedoug

I’m passing this on to my acquaintances who took their young men out of scouts; however, I agree w/post #3, lawsuits on the horizon.

Not that the organizers should let that stop them.


7 posted on 09/07/2013 10:01:04 AM PDT by TurkeyLurkey
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To: B4Ranch

Sort of like the alternatives to AARP.


8 posted on 09/07/2013 10:02:10 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You can't force people to care. Sometimes I don't myself.)
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To: B4Ranch

Why?

It will be an indoctrination society dedicated to increasing take in the collection plates


9 posted on 09/07/2013 10:03:35 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Past Your Eyes

I have those posted on my profile page, too.


10 posted on 09/07/2013 10:06:20 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Past Your Eyes

Speaking of which, is there a consensus as to the best alternative? Hate to join something that will be gone in a couple of years. Kinda like the GOP.


11 posted on 09/07/2013 10:10:01 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: bert

Insert eyeroll gif here.


12 posted on 09/07/2013 10:42:50 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You can't force people to care. Sometimes I don't myself.)
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To: bert
It will be an indoctrination society dedicated to increasing take in the collection plates

Upset because they don't include snarky atheist?

13 posted on 09/07/2013 10:43:09 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: B4Ranch

The very best thing they can do is to provide supervised and chaperoned activities between boys and girls of their age, whose emphasis is not the activities, but interaction. Gender segregation is to be prevented.

The lack of cross-gender communications in childhood results in some severe problems down the road, including an inability to eventually socially meet others, date them, and marry one you like. They still *want* to mate, but otherwise are asocial or antisocial.

Children need a male role model, a female role model, and to see them constructively interacting. They do not know how to do this instinctively, and left to their own devices they tend to not form satisfactory relationships.


14 posted on 09/07/2013 10:52:53 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I agree with your assessment that a lack of healthy interaction leads to problems down the road. But having been to camps growing up that were in one case 6 weeks only guys and shorter co-ed camps both had good aspects. Does everything have to cater to inclusion? Aren’t there some aspects and activities for boys that would be hampered by the inclusion of girls?
I had a severely handicapped kid in my boyscouts when I was young and the whole group therefore couldn’t do most of the outdoor activities which kinda sucked and made us the laughing stock when awards were presented. .
I think you are right emphasizing a need for healthy interaction I just think there is also a time for non-inclusion.


15 posted on 09/07/2013 11:22:13 AM PDT by Sheapdog (Chew the meat, spit out the bones - FUBO - Come and get me)
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To: Sheapdog

I quite agree. Most of the time, boys and girls should be off, respectively, with men and women. Perhaps a good opportunity would be that breakfast and lunch are with their own gender, dinner is both genders and uniform formal, and supper is casual wear and clean up.

This creates lots of opportunities. For example, formal dinners can be used to teach dining etiquette and table manners, with each table having a man on one end and a woman on the other, who host the table and set the rules. It is less about eating than manners and appearance.

Supper is the real meal, and when it is over, everything in the dining hall is cleaned by everyone. Lots of opportunity for boy-girl cooperation.


16 posted on 09/07/2013 11:44:53 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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To: TurkeyLurkey

I don’t think there will be lawsuits; the Boy Scouts were exposed because they often used public property (and the Girl Scouts were OK because they allowed perverts - they could use Caesar’s buildings).


17 posted on 09/07/2013 11:50:48 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: B4Ranch

I’m glad all these various Christian denominations opposed to the BSA are working on creating an umbrella organization that is an alternative to the BSA. That being said, I think they also need to open the organization to practicing Jews and other other faiths that share traditional values (i.e. a practicing Buddhist who opposes homosexuality and wants to join Trail Life USA).


18 posted on 09/07/2013 11:51:32 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: B4Ranch

I hope they do well. It’ll be interesting to follow their progress.


19 posted on 09/07/2013 11:54:51 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: BillyBoy

I don’t think there’s anything in either charter that prevents practicing Jews from joining. We both worship the same God. What’s the issue?


20 posted on 09/07/2013 11:56:32 AM PDT by rabidralph
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To: rabidralph
>> I don’t think there’s anything in either charter that prevents practicing Jews from joining. We both worship the same God. What’s the issue? <<

"Trail Life USA expects to become a “premier” Christian organization....Trail Life is a way of life that is centered on following Christ in the outdoors...Adult leaders of Trail Life USA will be Christians who sign a statement of faith and submit to background checks."

So how would a Jew be able to sign a "statement of faith" that they're a Christian and will commit to "following Christ in the outdoors"? To a Jew, Jesus is just a Jewish carpenter, not God.

If the article instead read "Adult leaders of Trail Life USA will be people of faith who sign a statement of belief in Judeo-Christian values", then a practicing Jew would be able to join.

21 posted on 09/07/2013 12:08:21 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: kearnyirish2

Guess we’ll wait and see...quite a few BS groups meet in churches, maybe they are liberal churches, I don’t know, but if pastors should not be allowed to speak out from the pulpit against homosexuality because it’s deemed a hate crime, then it’s easy to see that groups that exclude them might be sued. Unless something turns around...


22 posted on 09/07/2013 12:26:36 PM PDT by TurkeyLurkey
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To: tbpiper

no, upset because good people have a kneejerk reaction and abandon that which is good for that which will fail miserably.


23 posted on 09/07/2013 12:28:53 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: BillyBoy

I see. Well, start your own organization, then.


24 posted on 09/07/2013 12:39:57 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: rabidralph
You miss the point entirely. The whole reason to have an alternative to the BSA is strength in numbers. If everyone "starts their own group", it will go nowhere. We need an umbrella organization that EVERYONE can rally around who opposes the BSA's embrace of "openly gay" members. That is precisely WHY Trail Life USA was settled on by a nationwide task force, and "carefully vetted and is intended not to be political or controversial"

It's certainly an excellent idea, but allowing only Christians to join will defeat their own purpose. Since I believe Christ is the messiah, I can join, but numerous others who believe in traditional values and oppose the BSA's gay agenda will not be able to do.

25 posted on 09/07/2013 12:50:00 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: BillyBoy
Maybe contacting Trail Life and asking them to amend their charter to Judeo-Christian values might help. Maybe banding together with other like-minded Jews and asking Trail Life might show them that other faiths share their concerns.

OTOH, there are numerous instances of groups open to everyone who start complaining and then sue because they think one group or thought is too prevalent in the organization. Which has led to where the BSA is today.

26 posted on 09/07/2013 12:54:44 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: B4Ranch

This is generally a step in the right direction. They need to be more explicit in terms of affiliation/sponsorship by a church or a formally recognized religion (even one they make up from scratch.) This is the coming collision between the first amendment protection of religious freedom and the usual suspects who want to ram same sex marriage and other political correctness down our throats. This is the right approach, and as I have posted before, the key is to get religious organizations to offer a wider variety of services (more schools, day care, scouting like groups, etc.) so that they can be conducted in a principled manner and be beyond the reach of gay/lesbian/transgender/gender confused activists who want to wreck everything utilizing the courts.


27 posted on 09/07/2013 2:24:11 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: TurkeyLurkey

I think religious freedom will win out here; there are too many groups impacted by the intrusion of government into their affairs. If libs had their way, they would have already stopped the slaughter of animals according to kosher/halal guidelines, for instance.


28 posted on 09/07/2013 2:25:57 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

Have you visited their website?


29 posted on 09/07/2013 4:15:58 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: B4Ranch

I’m in Nashville for the conference. Provided it all works as planned, this organization is everything BSA should be. I came to explore our options and spent the entire day getting more and more excited. It’s not a done deal for our troop yet, but I’m ready to raise the standard. Motto: Walk Worthy.


30 posted on 09/07/2013 8:09:55 PM PDT by cyclotic (Hey BSA-NOT IN MY TROOP)
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To: cyclotic

I am thrilled to the bones to read your words. I am so happy that our youngsters will have a nationwide team that they can be a part of with Christ as their leader. I was getting quite depressed thing that the perverts had won the game.

Thank you for your efforts to keep America great.


31 posted on 09/07/2013 8:43:56 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: tbpiper

By calling me an athiest you demean the good Christians who are the majority and backbone of the BSA. You are thus revealed as a Christian bigot. You demean those Christians who don’t follow your narrow path and zealotry


32 posted on 09/08/2013 6:01:31 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: bert
Good grief, bert. It took you long enough to catch on. As far as following a narrow path:

"You can enter God's Kingdom only through the narrow gate. The highway to hell is broad, and its gate is wide for the many who choose that way. Matthew 7:13

Seems like Matthew was demeaning you 'broad road' Christians as well.

As far as Christian backbone of the BSA, just wait until the end of the year and see how many churches are not renewing with the BSA.

33 posted on 09/08/2013 9:45:50 AM PDT by tbpiper
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