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High School AP History Book Rewrites 2nd Amendment
DailyPaul.com ^ | 9/16/2013 | RobHino

Posted on 09/16/2013 7:55:35 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama

It is our duty to stop stuff like this.

Guyer High School (and obviously several others) are complicit in attempting to condition students to interpret the 2nd Amendment in a clearly opposite manner in which it was intended. The 1st, 3rd, 4th, and 5th are also misinterpreted as several commentators below pointed out.

This textbook, currently being used by Guyer High School, is attempting to redefine the Second Amendment to impressionable young minds. Parents, you must speak up and demand action. Investigate your child's history book ASAP, and post more pictures in the comments below. Call your school and demand that revisionist history books like this are removed from the school district.

Textbook version: "The people have a right to keep and bear arms in a state militia."

Actual 2nd Amendment: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Did you catch the sleight of hand?

A militia is a body of citizens enrolled for military service, and called out periodically for drill but serving full time only in emergencies. It's a common man army of citizens, NOT soldiers. The citizens are called up in emergencies to protect the free State.

The 2nd Amendment says that a militia is necessary to protect a free State, so in order to be able to have a militia, the citizens have a natural right to keep and bear arms and the government cannot infringe on that right.

The textbook version implies that we're only allowed to keep and bear arms if we're in a State militia, a clear misrepresentation of the 2nd Amendment.

Your Call to Action:

1. Call Guyer High School and tell the appropriate person something like the following:

"Hello, my name is _______________. I saw that your AP History course has issued a book titled, United States History: Preparing for the Advanced Placement Examination. In this book, on page 102, the definition provided for the Second Amendment is incorrect and seems to be suggesting that only members of a State Militia are allowed to keep and bear arms. Who made the decision to use this text book? I'd like them to issue a public statement on this book's attempt to redefine the 2nd Amendment and why they chose to use it. We would also like this issue to be discussed at the next school board meeting. Please include it on the official agenda."

John H. Guyer High School
7501 Teasley Lane
Denton, TX 76210
P: 940-369-1000

2. If you live in the area or if you child attends this school, organize with your neighbors and storm the next school board meeting to demand answers.

School Board Meeting

Tuesday, September 24, 2013 6:00 PM

The Denton ISD Board of Trustees will be meeting at 6 p.m. Tuesday, Sept. 24, in the Board Room at the Dennis Stephens Central Services Building. For more information please contact Kim Stevenson, administrative assistant to the superintendent, at (940) 369-0002.

3. Inspect your child's history book and photograph other instances of intentional misrepresentations. Post pictures and blog about these occurrences. Demand your school districts regain control of their curriculum.

4. Share this story with your friends, family, and media connections to raise awareness.

UPDATE:

Just got off the phone with Kim Stevenson, Admin to the Superintendent.

1. Board members will not address any speaking on an item that is not part of the official agenda.

2. A community member could not add an item to the agenda.

3. You must sign in at Kim's desk in order to speak. You can speak up to 2 times and for 3 minutes. If a large number of us are attending we can assign a person to be our spokesperson and they may possibly give that person extra time.

The state adopts the textbooks every couple of years. She advised that besides attending next week's board meeting that we also speak with Darrell Muncy, Director of Student Services or speak with someone in the curriculum department.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: arth; banglist; constitution; corruption; curriculum; democrats; education; fraud; frhf; guncontrol; historyeducation; learning; leftismoncampus; miseducation; revisionism; schools; secondamendment; socialstudies; teaching; textbooks
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Hard to believe this is happening in TX. I guess we need to start checking out ALL the textbooks that our children & grandchildren are using!
1 posted on 09/16/2013 7:55:35 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama
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To: basil

Ping!


2 posted on 09/16/2013 7:56:43 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Texas has a huge population ...
so goes Texas text books so goes the nation.
WTF?


3 posted on 09/16/2013 8:00:42 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

I’ll make that phone call in the morning.


4 posted on 09/16/2013 8:01:00 PM PDT by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Hows that Gov’t funded edjumacation workin’ out for ya?

THATS a book worthy of burning.


5 posted on 09/16/2013 8:02:40 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Why is it hard to believe it is happening in Texas?

The same people run the public schools in Texas that run them in Kalipornia. They are funded and controlled the same way. Public schools are public schools no matter where they are located.


6 posted on 09/16/2013 8:05:09 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: 2nd amendment mama

The terrorist that launched Obama’s career in politics and probably wrote his books once said something like; ‘the engine of revolution is in the schools’.

We need to take back our institutions; schools, the press and govt agencies. This will mean that those that agree with the Constitution must go into those fields.


7 posted on 09/16/2013 8:06:32 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of "gun free zones"?)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

What I would like to see is townships calling armed people 18 to 45 to muster once every 6 months or so to run through some simple drills for a few hours.

It would be very interesting to see how liberals would react to such a thing especially if it were conducted by the smallest possible elected government unit.


8 posted on 09/16/2013 8:06:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
Holy Crap !! They even wrote in the seperation of church and state into the 1st ammendment !!

Calling it a summary dont cut the mustard!

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


9 posted on 09/16/2013 8:07:53 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

It might have been a state militia, but the citizens purchased and owned their own guns. The weapons were not issued by the state. A huge difference.


10 posted on 09/16/2013 8:11:26 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: svcw
Texas will turn into California soon, as will Florida, etc.

We are heading down the railway fast and there is no stopping now.

11 posted on 09/16/2013 8:13:05 PM PDT by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: 2nd amendment mama

This is interesting. Since Texas has such a large population, they tend to have a lot of control over the textbooks used in Texas schools. Do we know if this is something produced in the school district or is it used statewide?

We’ve all heard this lecture before, but I’m going to give it again. As long as the NEA and the political left control our schools, they cease to be institutions of learning and become indoctrination centers in liberal philosophy. If we want education to be about learning and not indoctrination, we have to pay attention and get control of the schools away from the leftists. It’s that simple.

However, if we all shrug our shoulders and say “what can I do? They aren’t going to listen to me” then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. We know that freedom isn’t free, but neither is a free society. When we let the politicians take an inch, the next time they’ll take a yard and the time after that, they’ll give us ObamaCare!!

Each of us has a voice and we have to use it while we still can.


12 posted on 09/16/2013 8:14:25 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for the American politburo!!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

This is interesting. Since Texas has such a large population, they tend to have a lot of control over the textbooks used in Texas schools. Do we know if this is something produced in the school district or is it used statewide?

We’ve all heard this lecture before, but I’m going to give it again. As long as the NEA and the political left control our schools, they cease to be institutions of learning and become indoctrination centers in liberal philosophy. If we want education to be about learning and not indoctrination, we have to pay attention and get control of the schools away from the leftists. It’s that simple.

However, if we all shrug our shoulders and say “what can I do? They aren’t going to listen to me” then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. We know that freedom isn’t free, but neither is a free society. When we let the politicians take an inch, the next time they’ll take a yard and the time after that, they’ll give us ObamaCare!!

Each of us has a voice and we have to use it while we still can.


13 posted on 09/16/2013 8:14:37 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for the American politburo!!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

How about we get names, e-mail addresses, and private phone numbers?

Then ruin them. Treasonous sons of bitches.


14 posted on 09/16/2013 8:15:05 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028
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To: Delta 21

Not to mention that the 5th Amendment has nothing to do with double jeopardy. The words are not used as such or in any manner of that word formation.

This is a travesty. While you all are at it— look up who the writers are— and the publisher. You need to attack at the board level and the curriculum level. The text is completely inaccurate, and does not SAY what our Constitution says. The interpretation of the Constitution by wishful thinking is NOT the actual Constitution. They need to GET this in their heads.


15 posted on 09/16/2013 8:17:19 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Thank you for posting such concise action steps. This is what we need to see MORE of on FR!! Making calls, tomorrow!


16 posted on 09/16/2013 8:18:35 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: John S Mosby

They all probly come highly recommended by the NEA.


17 posted on 09/16/2013 8:23:34 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: John S Mosby

Good points. The Constitution was written in plain language anyone could understand.


18 posted on 09/16/2013 8:26:11 PM PDT by quimby
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To: Delta 21

You are right. This is not what the Courts have decided. The militia is, historically, just the men of military age—15-45. There is also the organized militia, which is those men who are trained for war. The Minutemen who stood on Lexington Green brought their own weapons.


19 posted on 09/16/2013 8:34:14 PM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Need the company who published the book. That is most important.
Then we call the publisher.
Publisher is the problem, as well the school board who approved it!


20 posted on 09/16/2013 8:35:29 PM PDT by mojo114 (Pray for our military)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Why did the text book feel the need to “summarize” the Second Amendment? It is after all only one sentence long, how much more succinct do they feel it needs to be?


21 posted on 09/16/2013 8:35:38 PM PDT by PotatoHeadMick
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To: 2nd amendment mama

This ends one of two ways.....either with the death of freedom and America
as it was intended or it ends with the death of the Marxists and the idiots
that worship them. The government, educational system, media and large
parts of the military has been infiltrated, compromised, subverted and
perverted by evil people, people who WILL NOT SURRENDER.

The people in power spent decades organizing and committing the coup.
They aren’t’ going to step down, walk away or give up power.

Either we kill them or they kill and enslave us. There is no third option
now....all the peaceful means have been nullified.


22 posted on 09/16/2013 8:35:55 PM PDT by nvscanman
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To: RobbyS

The militia as defined in Federalist papers is... all of the able bodied (men at the time, but now women too) who can carry a firearm or bear arms. In short it is ALL of the people, who were considered to be necessary to a Free State.

Just like in Switzerland— every house has an automatic weapon— it has to. This country was meant to BE Switzerland.


23 posted on 09/16/2013 8:41:52 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
Just got off the phone with Kim Stevenson, Admin to the Superintendent.

1. Board members will not address any speaking on an item that is not part of the official agenda.

2. A community member could not add an item to the agenda.

3. You must sign in at Kim's desk in order to speak. You can speak up to 2 times and for 3 minutes. If a large number of us are attending we can assign a person to be our spokesperson and they may possibly give that person extra time.

The state adopts the textbooks every couple of years. She advised that besides attending next week's board meeting that we also speak with Darrell Muncy, Director of Student Services or speak with someone in the curriculum department.

NEVER bother talking to a school administrator (or an HOA board member, for that matter) - they're both rottener than rotten, and will lie right down to their last rotten breaths.

Save time, energy and money - just file suit.

24 posted on 09/16/2013 8:42:31 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: GeronL; basil

I believe that TX has a commission that approves their own school books. Since I don’t live there, I’ve pinged basil - she might know.


25 posted on 09/16/2013 8:44:40 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Delta 21

Sure is!


26 posted on 09/16/2013 8:45:18 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: svcw

TX is a main txtbook buyer for a reason. Easier to get the brain washing into the pipeline by having a few states be the gatekeeper. Keep an eye on the people who are on the committees that approve these books. They are all part of a nest of vipers.


27 posted on 09/16/2013 8:48:30 PM PDT by SteelTrap
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Reason 216 to immediately remove your children from the government indoctrination centers [schools] and do the schooling on you own. Either by home schooling or enrolling your children in a quality private school.

The public school system is filling your childrens’ heads with mush. Like this bastardized version of the 2nd amendment.


28 posted on 09/16/2013 8:50:03 PM PDT by upchuck (The nobama regime: a string of omnishambles that stretches, seemingly, to infinity.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

They could be using a different text too.


29 posted on 09/16/2013 8:50:04 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: 2nd amendment mama

I found the book:http://www.amazon.com/United-States-History-Preparing-Examination/dp/1567656609/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1379389237&sr=1-1&keywords=united+states+history+preparing+for+the+advanced+placement+examination
Can’t find publisher. working to find


30 posted on 09/16/2013 8:52:11 PM PDT by mojo114 (Pray for our military)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Every kid in AP or any American history class should have, in their textbook, the exact Constitution as written. Why even change the words one bit? It serves to do nothing but prove a certain agenda is being pushed.

Last year, my daughter had a huge exam on Islam. We went through the chapters of her textbook and we talked about things that we disagreed with in the book. She was well prepared for the exam. The strange thing was, she took the exam and aced it, getting the highest grade in her class.
I looked over the test, which was prepared by a testing company, God forbid the teacher make her own exam! My daughter answered the Multiple Choice, T/F, and essay based on the truth, not what the textbook had said! So obviously the test supplied didn’t even agree with the text! No wonder kids aren’t learning! They put crap in the textbook and even when
they indoctrinate the kid with the information, they do lousy on the tests! Hey, but at least they come out indoctrinated, confused, failing students!

My daughter actually brought up to the teacher that some of her answers, including in the essay, disagreed with the text. The teacher “just be happy you did so well”. Insanity! For the kid left to rely on the text, bad grade but what was in the text!

BTW, it’s the same text they just had a problem with people complaining about in Florida. My daughter thought it was funny Florida described it as
a Senior year World History book, while here it was Freshman year book.

I said it shouldn’t be used in any grade, it’s not teaching you much of anything that is true!


31 posted on 09/16/2013 8:53:24 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Product Details

Paperback: 768 pages
Publisher: Amsco School Publications; 2nd Revised edition (2010)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 1567656609
ISBN-13: 978-1567656602


32 posted on 09/16/2013 8:53:55 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: mojo114

Its reviews are dropping like a stone on the Amazon site.


33 posted on 09/16/2013 8:56:43 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Does anyone have a email address we can use?


34 posted on 09/16/2013 8:57:01 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Delta 21

Yes it it isn’t even a close call - the people who put this together are not accidentally leaving out words. They are treasonous vipers who must be exposed.

Parents: look at the books your kids are given and if you see this sort of crap go to the school board meeting and raise hell. Do not accept an answer of “we will look into it”. Ask who supports it and who is against it. Ask who let this happen? Ask directly, while looking at the board. Tell anyone who is not unequivocally on board, they will be run out of office and shamed publicly.


35 posted on 09/16/2013 8:58:31 PM PDT by SteelTrap
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To: DustyMoment; All
YOU FOLK DON'T KNOW THE HALF OF IT _ you post: “This is interesting. Since Texas has such a large population, they tend to have a lot of control over the textbooks used in Texas schools. Do we know if this is something produced in the school district or is it used statewide?”

Texas ia, has been for decade, the testing ground for textbooks. If they fly there, they get released across the country.

This is much worse than you think...

Decades ago, when I was politically active, my organization was umbrellaed with others in my state and across the country - Mel & Norma Gable were vital in our fight against gov’t takeover of our schools and our homes.

I remember one history book, for example, published and ‘tested’ in Texas, the one one short. derogatory paragraph on George Washington and 5 1/2 pages of text and photos of - Marilyn Monroe. (This was the early 1980’s.)

Mel and Norma are gone now, but Mel left a method to use for detecting these anti-Americam rewrites/distortions;

“BEST STRATEGY
Texas is the most conservative big state that state-approves textbooks. Texas has national leverage on publishers. Texas’ all-elected State Board of Education responds more to citizens. To impact Texas, Mel left in place a long institutional past, unusually experienced reviewers, and highly specific goals.

“Different people reviewing different textbooks different years tend to draw less precise com­par­i­sons and reinvent the wheel. Mel left in place a very stable review staff, active each year for decades, to write consistent, increasingly in-depth reviews over repeated Texas textbook adoption cycles.”

This is where you go for guidance in combatting this insidious undermining of our children, our families, our traditions and our Constitutin.

http://www.textbookreviews.org/index.html?content=nl_05_05.htm

To read about this dedicated couple and what they achieved -Question is, who is now carrying on this crucial oversight? Calls and emails to our reps doens't even scratch the srface - it's only the start. Where now are people like el and Norma?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_and_Norma_Gabler

36 posted on 09/16/2013 9:00:58 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: John S Mosby

As Madison put it, an “extended” rather than a “consolidated” Republic.


37 posted on 09/16/2013 9:03:27 PM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

The federalization of public education continues. The districts now get their marching orders from DOEd.


38 posted on 09/16/2013 9:04:45 PM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Bkmrk for tomorrows phone call. Thanks.


39 posted on 09/16/2013 9:06:31 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: SteelTrap

The author, John M. Schmalbach, must be a buddy of the current regimen because he does not exist on the internet.

My eyes are about to roll out of my head.

My 1st daughter was so smart she about pissed every teacher and administrator off before she graduated HS. My other 2 were home schooled.

Thank you GOD !!!


40 posted on 09/16/2013 9:13:05 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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-mark-


41 posted on 09/16/2013 9:13:40 PM PDT by Ken H (First rule of gun safety - have a gun)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Apparently the conservative majority on the textbook selection committee is over, according to Dallas news, Aug. 15, 2013. In 2009, majority conservatives were able to include creationism in science textbooks.


42 posted on 09/16/2013 9:14:43 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Talisker; All
NEVER bother talking to a school administrator (or an HOA board member, for that matter) - they're both rottener than rotten, and will lie right down to their last rotten breaths.

Exactly. Just wasted time, breath and energy.

See my post #36 for links to an organization in Texas to contact

Forgot to put contact info for the organization in that post...#36

Educational Research Analysts •

PO Box 7518 •

gview, Texas 75607 •

phone (903)753-5993 •

b>fax (903)753-8424 •

info@textbookreviews.org

They've been fighting these people for over 30 years - they've done the groundwork in Texas - for TX and the whole country - and know what steps to take, who to contact. Contact them -

Let's not try to reinvent the wheel. We don't have the time.

43 posted on 09/16/2013 9:19:35 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: All

Compared to the actual bill of rights that textbook appears
to be written for a fourth grade special needs class. If this is the level of reading comprehension and insight to be expected of high school students then this country is circling the drain. The genuine Madison product is to be seen below.

The Preamble to The Bill of Rights

Congress of the United States
begun and held at the City of New-York, on
Wednesday the fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine.

THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.

RESOLVED by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following Articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as amendments to the Constitution of the United States, all, or any of which Articles, when ratified by three fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of the said Constitution; viz.

ARTICLES in addition to, and Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the fifth Article of the original Constitution.

Note: The following text is a transcription of the first ten amendments to the Constitution in their original form. These amendments were ratified December 15, 1791, and form what is known as the “Bill of Rights.”

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Amendment II

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Amendment III

No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Amendment VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

Amendment VII

In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

Amendment VIII

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Amendments 11-27


44 posted on 09/16/2013 9:21:30 PM PDT by Holdem Or Foldem ( A Smith and Wesson beats four aces)
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To: matt04; All
Does anyone have a email address we can use?

See my posts # 36 & 43

45 posted on 09/16/2013 9:22:32 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: mojo114
Publisher

AMSCO School Publications, Inc.

AMSCO School Publications, Inc. | 315 Hudson Street, | New York, NY 10013-1085 | PH: (866) 902-6726

46 posted on 09/16/2013 9:23:20 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: maine-iac7

You have the knowledge and experience. Thank You.

BTTT


47 posted on 09/16/2013 9:25:49 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: Delta 21

Ha! Glad to hear that. My two kids were home schooled and now they are colliding with the machine in college. Exciting conversations with 20 something “professors”.

It is not an every day occurrence to have a student walk up to them after class and say “I didn’t pay for this nonsense. Your opinion is cool but I could care less. It is worth nothing to me. I paid for knowledge transfer, so more of that and less lip. Please.”


48 posted on 09/16/2013 9:38:43 PM PDT by SteelTrap
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To: 2nd amendment mama; Absolutely Nobama; SunkenCiv; maggief

The information below about the definition of the 2nd Amendment on the White House website and also on the Senate website there is interesting verbage in the right margin.

Look at what whitehouse.gov says the second amendment is

the whitehouse site shortens the second amendment to: citizens have the right to bear arms, and totally disregards the rest involving militia.

From this page
http://www.whitehouse.gov/our-government/the-constitution

THEN if you click “read the full text of the constitution” it goes here:
http://www.senate.gov/civics/constitution_item/constitution.htm

On that page “Amendments” goes here (farther down page)
http://www.senate.gov/civics/constitution_item/constitution.htm#amendments

and says this for second amendment:

“Amendment II (1791)
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

WHAT IS WEIRD IS OFF TO THE RIGHT OF THAT IT SAYS THIS

“Whether this provision protects the individual’s right to own firearms or whether it deals only with the collective right of the people to arm and maintain a militia has long been debated.”


49 posted on 09/16/2013 10:08:08 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Delta 21

I helped the falling reviews along. Took a couple minutes.


50 posted on 09/16/2013 10:26:05 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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