Skip to comments.Bill O’Reilly is Killing Jesus
Posted on 09/21/2013 10:14:52 AM PDT by rhema
Im researching Killing Jesus, do you know why Jesus was killed, by the Romans? You dont know and you shouldnt know because it was about taxes, taxes! Bill OReilly, The OReilly Factor, March 2013 (see here: Jesus killed over taxes)
Now, I am no expert on Jesus Christ or the Roman occupation of Judea in the first century A.D., but I am a minister of the gospel of Jesus Christ and once, on the way to visit my in-laws, I slept in a Holiday Inn Express. But it wasnt until that statement, from the renowned theologian Bill OReilly of Fox News, that I realized the true reason that Jesus Christ was killed was not atonement, redemption, propitiation or reconciliation, but Taxes! It was taxes!
I know, right! Those Romans are brutal! I mean, the IRS raided Willie Nelson and jailed Wesley Snipes, but crucifixion? Thats just medieval!
On Tuesday, the 24th of September, Killing Jesus: A History by BILL OREILLY (in big bold all caps and the same font size as the words KILLING JESUS) and Martin Dugard (you better be wearing your bi-focals to see his name, but hes the guy who does all the work and gets none of the credit; well, in this case none of the blame) will arrive in bookstores and on e-shelves.
And according to the prophet of the No spin zone, the guy who said, render unto Caesar and who miraculously summoned a fish with a silver coin to pay, not only his own taxes but also that of his servant Peter, was somehow the spearhead of a tax revolt against the Romans.
The history of the Greeks, the Romans, the Christians and the Jews deny this, as does Christ himself, who, in a less than Simon bar Kokhba moment, told Pilate to the face that his kingdom was not of this world else his servants would fight. But then again maybe Foxs own Ron Burgundy and his ghostwriter have discovered something that thousands of scholars, billions of words, and history itself have overlooked?
The write-up of the book promises to take readers inside Jesuss life, recounting the seismic political and historical events that made his death inevitable and changed the world forever. Now, Im all for tax revolts, but has the death of any tax revolutionary really changed the world forever?
And Im pretty confident that the death of Jesus was inevitable because God decreed it and prophecy declared it:
Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain. (Acts 2:23)
The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ. For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together, For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done. (Acts 4:26-28)
After all, wasnt Pontius Pilate reluctant to the last minute? Do you really think that a Roman Procurator would pause for reflection in the face of a tax revolt? A man renowned for his cruelty?
As a student with intellectual curiosity and somewhere around 3,000 theological volumes in my library, I appreciate the diversity among the scholars that appear there. I have the early church fathers, the great minds of the Reformation, Catholics, Calvinists, skeptics, scoffers and even atheists; though I must admit that OReilly will be the first theologian to grace my shelves that has been sued by a former producer for offering to introduce a falafel into her nether regions. But as a Christian who believes in redemption, I was excited to hear that the trouble-making Roman Catholic kid who was the bane of his Catholic school had grown up to write a book about Jesus. What an opportunity for a man who has truly been blessed with a magnificent platform and millions of viewers. How sad that he wasted such a golden opportunity. How truly tragic.
As nutty as Louis Farrakhan sounds when he claims that a Jew of the house of David and the tribe of Judah was black, as loopy as those in Queer Nation who claim that Jesus was a gay man, extraordinarily gay, steeped in gayness, nothing quite compares to the complete denial of thousands of years of Jewish prophecy and two millennia of Christian tradition. Not even Dan Brown had the chutzpah to write his anti-Christian screed as a work of non-fiction. Thats right folks, you dont see this kind of pride and prejudice outside of the major cults or the halls of Pandemonium.
The fresh, bold piece of humanity has revealed himself as the hot steaming pile of vanity that both Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh have warned us about by implication for years. OReillys wacky, unhinged conjectures promise to make Oliver Stone seem like St. Augustine. Imagine the ego that went into his decision to straighten out God, history, tradition and even the skeptics about the life and death of Jesus Christ? Imagine the arrogant naiveté to suggest that a history of the death of Jesus belongs on the same shelf as Lincolns and JFKs?
And the irony of a man who boasts, The Factor has stood up for Christmas for fifteen years, defending the holiday from secular progressives. I guess its all right to have Christ in Christmas but lets revisit that whole Easter Sunday thing. So, we have been wrong all along with the Christ died for your sins confession; actually we should revise that to Jesus died for your deductions!
But will the Factor-heads bail him out on this one? You betcha! OReilly could ralph into the Holy Grail and there would be a bidding war on ebay. He still lives off the fumes of the average persons middle finger to the media in their disdain of mainstream propaganda and their appreciation of Fox as a reliable news source. As for me, I would rather have him sign my loofah than toss him thirty pieces of silver like the Fox lemmings that will buy anything that bears his name and visage. Hows that for pithy?
The question that we must ask, that even fans of The Factor must demand, is why? Why would he write this book and why should we continue to pretend that Bill OReilly hasnt morphed into the media version of the perpetual thumb in the eye that is John McCain? If Im wrong about his following, and I hope that I am, then the title of his next book will be, KILLING RATINGS!
I leave you, my dear reader, to your own better discretion on whether to buy this book or support this man but let me just point out a question that should make the folks uncomfortable. When is MSNBC more reliable than Fox News? The answer is when Martin Bashir has to correct Bill OReilly about the true reason for the death of Christ.
You dont know and you shouldnt know because it was about taxes? Well, as anyone with a modicum of Biblical history will tell you, the death of Christ was an act of substitutionary atonement for the sins of the world. He neither lived nor died for taxes, in fact he simply said that one should discharge ones responsibilities to the state by rendering unto Caesar that which was Caesars. But the purpose and meaning of his death is spelled out by the prophet Isaiah: He was pierced for our transgressions. He was crushed for our iniquities. The punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed. Isaiah 53:5
He died for the sins of the world, continued Bashir, including the lies and the misappropriation of his life by those whose sole purpose is to make money at his expense.
Watch Martin Bashirs Commentary here: Bashir on OReillys Killing Jesus
Words fail me
People will still buy this piece of crap.
Off his meds again.
Well... umm... earthly motives were many. Which doesn’t in the least negate the divine plan to put Jesus on that cross to pay for your sins and mine and those of the world (at least those who are willing to accept this sacrifice on their behalf).
I hadn’t even thought of the taxes angle. And I don’t know where Bill’s book is — it might be off in left field.
But the bible does suggest that the love of money is the root of all [kinds of] evil. It would be only one of a lot of worldly motives, and of course all of those motives would ludicrously mischaracterize Jesus. By definition of what worldly is.
Nutty, maybe, but maybe not as nutty.
O'Reilly's mistake was thinking that religion is reducible to politics and politics is reducible to economics.
Maybe it's rare to hear somebody making both those reductions at the same time, but you can hear people arguing for one or the other every day.
BOR is killing Mexicans?
If that’s his approach then yes, he’s sapped the whole power of his faith and given it to an idol! Who wants to believe in worldly economics as the summum bonum? Doesn’t that status belong to God?
I am simple minded. I look at the joy of the Lord which is my strength. God’s up there in heaven saying yeehaw and we’re down here saying leave us alone to our card games Cowboy (or more accurately Shepherd). Well He will, for a while. Till we realize where that goes, which is nowhere. And so Bill’s book would be useful... as a cautionary lesson in vain thinking.
The most damning sentence, that no scholars have ever unearthed this supposed ‘true story’.
I am stunned.
How can a Catholic not understand Jesus’ death. I’m not a Catholic and I understand it .. believe in it, and know for certain that Christ did not die because of taxes.
I’ve already stopped watching O’Reilly. He just seems to be much more arrogant; argumentative; constantly talks over his guests, etc. I just kept thinking, if he doesn’t like what these people are going to say then why is he inviting them to his show? Can’t understand that.
Anyway, I WILL NOT be purchasing this book. I’m done!!
I love thinking about how Jesus will rule the world (with a rod of iron). The perfect politician. First all His enemies will be wiped out with a single command, then all the nations will have to pay tribute to Him or they have a drought. Other than that, seeing Him in person, no war, playing with lions and tigers and bears, never locking your doors, meeting angels and the resurrected who were beheaded during the tribulation, and everything in our homes will glorify God, healing, healing, healing. As a start. That is where I go for peace. Oh, we will all celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. I love sleeping under the stars.
I received his Lincoln book as a gift, and was very unimpressed.
Bill O’Reilly can’t kill Jesus. He is killing himself. Reap - Sow, Bill.
The rod shouldn’t, I believe, be taken in a worldly manner, like some enraged despot who can forcefully strike down but not build up. This is God with the supernatural power to make good things happen with vigor. The thing about God that we keep a big secret, overwhelmed with our own worldly point of view, is that God would far rather bless than curse; the anger of His chastening is for a moment then His lovingkindness is forever.
I was confident from the first day I heard about this book that O’Reilly would screw it up.
Jesus was executed by Roman soldiers, not because they had any reason to want him dead, as neither did their immediate Big Boss, Pontius Pilate, but because the Jewish high priests and Sanhedrin insisted that Jesus be put to death and conjured a clever political squeeze play that Pilate dared not refuse for the sake of his own life.
Remember Pilate’s judicial finding: I find no cause of death in this man.
The immediate cause of Jesus’ crucifixion was the Jews, although Christians know the fundamental, existential cause, why He had to die. I know of nothing in O’Reilly’s life experiences that would lead him to understand this.
O’Reilly and “Killing Jesus”: Cause for Concern for Conservative Christians
Freeper Editorial | 6 Apr 13 | Xzins
Posted on 04/06/2013 7:51:02 AM PDT by xzins
Bill O’Reilly gets hostile to the Gospel
http://www.cbPatriot.com | Publius321
Posted on 04/28/2011 6:13:54 PM PDT by publius321
Losing Your Religion
Townhall.com | June 22, 2013 | Bill O’Reilly
Posted on 06/22/2013 3:36:12 AM PDT by Kaslin
Bill O’Reilly — Now ‘Looking the Other Way’
[Christians who believe the Bible and attempt to live according to its precepts are “religious fanatics.”]
Agape Press | 9/10/02 | Gregory J. Rummo
Posted on 09/11/2002 10:04:12 AM PDT by truthandlife
O’Reilly blasts same-sex marriage critics
CNN | 3/27/2013 | Ashley Killough
Posted on 04/07/2013 12:35:31 PM PDT by IbJensen
Vanity: Bill O’Reilly, shut your mouth about oil
Posted on 02/29/2012 5:28:51 PM PST by jsdjason
Bill O’Reilly Pens Love Letter to Obama in Parade Magazine (Projectile Barf Alert)
Politics Daily | 08/07/09 | Carl M. Cannon
Posted on 08/07/2009 11:59:04 AM PDT by MissesBush
Social Security claim vanishes from O’Reilly podcast
WND | April 16,2011 | Bed_Zeppelin
Posted on 04/16/2011 7:40:58 AM PDT by Bed_Zeppelin
Oops, he did it again: Bill O’Reilly defames the victims of the Malmedy massacre
Respectful Insolence | 6/2/2006 | Orac
Posted on 06/04/2006 5:51:50 PM PDT by Born Conservative
O’Reilly The Historian??
Vanity | 5/30/06 | Blau993
Posted on 05/30/2006 7:39:49 PM PDT by blau993
It does indeed appear Bill O’Reilly is coming out with a book about Jesus’s life.
I read the sample chapter and could find nothing in it that contradicted scripture. However, there’s also this...
O’Reilly claims the Romans killed Jesus over taxes?!? I don’t of any scripture that supports that.
The Sanhedrin had Jesus executed. Pontius Pilate, the Roman governor, only weakly supported the execution. According to scripture, Pilate actually wanted to release Jesus at one point. To the best of my knowledge, scripture does not state or imply that Pilate or any other Roman wanted to kill Jesus over taxes.
To the (hopefully few) Bill O’Reilly fans out there. There’s no reason to read O’Reilly’s version of events when you can go directly to the Bible and read it for yourselves. Here’s a good place to start:
I didn’t buy any of his “killing” books. I watched the TV show Killing Lincoln and if it was true to the book, I didn’t see anything earth shattering or new that wasn’t known before.
As far as killing Kennedy, once I read that he was putting his political spin on Kennedy’s death, I wanted no part of it.
And Killing Jesus is just a way for him to make money off the name of Our Lord.
I would not be sad to never hear anything about BOR again.
“O’Reilly’s mistake was thinking that religion is reducible to politics and politics is reducible to economics.’
A few months ago, he stirred some reaction to gun violence in Chicago, blaming it on the breakdown of the black family. His solution was mass public service campaigns to discourage out of wedlock pregnancy.
Not once did he mention the root cause of the breakdown - absence of morality and any sort of religious or spiritual foundations in their lives. The all-knowing BOR was confusing effect with cause.
The only thing I can think of with his taxes angle is that he’s expressing the earthly reason why the Romans wanted to kill Jesus, and it fit into God’s plan of His Son dying for our sins and for our salvation. But I always thought that Jesus was killed by the Romans because they feared Him as He was proclaiming that He was a king, and the Roman king felt threatened.
I don’t know of any scripture that supports a claim that the Romans killed Jesus over taxes. That’s what O’Reilly is claiming.
There certainly must have been many motivations involved, both worldly and spiritual, in Christ’s death. However, nowhere does it state or imply the Romans killed Jesus over taxes, and even if so, it misses the far larger and more important spiritual reason for Christ’s sacrifice, propitiation for our sins.
Well that’s where I’d need to see more details to say more about the book, but ultimately if we see Bill in person making out the Cross ministry of Christ to be less than it really was, we need to firmly correct that. Book or no book. Because God’s grace is awesome and God will not brook us treating it lightly.
To be fair, O’Reilly only claimed (on his show) the Romans killed Jesus over taxes, and the online excerpt from his upcoming book doesn’t cover that portion of history. Nevertheless, O’Reilly’s claim has no founding in scripture that I know of. It definitely does NOT fit the Biblical characterization of Pontius Pilate, the governor and supreme Roman judge over Judea at the time of Christ’s death.
” When is MSNBC more reliable than Fox News? The answer is when Martin Bashir has to correct Bill OReilly about the true reason for the death of Christ.”
O’reilly is an idiot, always was and always will be, but so is anyone that thinks the brainless blob of flesh that is Martin Bashir could correct anyone about anything.
I stopped watching this jerk quite some time ago. My wife liked to watch him but finally she realized that he is a complete blowhard. In my opinion, he is an egotistical twit, besides being a total a**hole. Have I made myself clear enough!!!
Elsiejay: “The immediate cause of Jesus crucifixion was the Jews, although Christians know the fundamental, existential cause, why He had to die.”
That’s my understanding—based on scripture—too. The most immediate, worldly cause was due to Jewish leaders. They likely wanted Jesus killed because He threatened their leadership, and they claimed Jesus was usurping Caesar’s authority by claiming to be King of the Jews. They did that because the Romans had no reason to execute Jesus on religious grounds. That’s not the reason why the Jews themselves wanted Christ killed.
Of course all of this misses the much more important reason for Christ’s crucification. It was done, as prophesied, as propitiation for our sins.
He is owned by the Elite. He is very selective on what he says or goes after. When the real true is exposed, BOR is in league with the liberals.
WHY?... It’s an old story.. 30 pieces of silver... and negative attention..
He may call it journalism and truth seeking but it’s Not..
It’s secular Religio-SPIN... worldly paranormal activity..
Holy Ghosting by those that do not believe in ghosts...
Agnosticism clothed in robes... Journalism Kabuki.. with bad guys and good guys.. Goth O’Reily-lore..
“...the love of money is the root of all [kinds of] evil.”
Thank you for getting the quote right. It is amazing how many people leave off the first three words.
bill o’bloviator could not stand to take the pointed criticism that he would surely endure in the Manhattan parties that he attends... and directly from the left wing liberal dim party (New Yawk) societal elites... if he even dared to to quote scripture in any way. He spurns GOD’s words to be cool and his soul will pay in eternal heat for it... unless he repents.
I love CHRIST and THE FATHER. To doubt EITHER is to hurt the ONE that made you from nothing. How can anyone do that... anyone that believes in the Trinity? I understand sinning... I am a sinner. I try not to be but sometimes my language gets rough or I let anger flash over common sense but I still endeavor to be a better man. Only those that hate GOD or do not believe in HIM could doubt HIM. There is just no other way to explain it... at least none that I can think of.
When you look at the Gospels in their historical context this makes a lot of sense. The Romans existed in that place and time outside of the ongoing relationship between the Chosen People and God (with all of its ups and downs through history), and as such they were far more likely to look upon someone like Jesus Christ in a very objective manner and react to Him the way an ordinary person would.
For example ... I cannot imagine how someone in those times could watch Christ cure a leper or make a blind man see and not be shaken to his core by what he's witnessed. And yet an awful lot of people stood there and rationalized such a remarkable turn of events away.
I like it... precise, skewering and the absolute truth!
When I read through the Gospels one of the things that really stands out to me is what seems like a complete sense of detachment by Pontius Pilate in his conversation with Christ. It's like he just got out of bed that morning and did his job like he did any other day.
They haven't failed O'Reilly. Unfortunately, he has avoided telling the truth with them in this book.
O'Blowhard has finally jumped the shark and is spreading false teachings and doctrine - and I can confidently say that not even having read his book, which I don't plan on wasting my time doing. All one needs to do is listen to what he says about it.
He is either a false prophet or an incredibly stupid one. I choose "all of the above", Alex.
murron: “But I always thought that Jesus was killed by the Romans because they feared Him as He was proclaiming that He was a king, and the Roman king felt threatened.”
Pontius Pilate was Roman governor of Judea. Pilate’s wife dreamed that Jesus was an innocent and righteous man and sent a message to Pilate to have Jesus released. If Pilate feared anything about Christ, it was fear of executing Him.
Here’s the relevant scripture:
“11 Now Jesus stood before the governor, and the governor questioned Him, saying, Are You the King of the Jews? And Jesus said to him, It is as you say. 12 And while He was being accused by the chief priests and elders, He did not answer. 13 Then Pilate *said to Him, Do You not hear how many things they testify against You? 14 And He did not answer him with regard to even a single [e]charge, so the governor was quite amazed.
15 Now at the feast the governor was accustomed to release for the [f]people any one prisoner whom they wanted. 16 At that time they were holding a notorious prisoner, called Barabbas. 17 So when the people gathered together, Pilate said to them, Whom do you want me to release for you? Barabbas, or Jesus who is called Christ? 18 For he knew that because of envy they had handed Him over.
19 While he was sitting on the judgment seat, his wife sent him a message, saying, Have nothing to do with that righteous Man; for [g]last night I suffered greatly in a dream because of Him. 20 But the chief priests and the elders persuaded the crowds to ask for Barabbas and to put Jesus to death. 21 But the governor [h]said to them, Which of the two do you want me to release for you? And they said, Barabbas. 22 Pilate *said to them, Then what shall I do with Jesus who is called Christ? They all *said, [i]Crucify Him! 23 And he said, Why, what evil has He done? But they kept shouting all the more, saying, [j]Crucify Him!
24 When Pilate saw that he was accomplishing nothing, but rather that a riot was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd, saying, I am innocent of this Mans blood; see to that yourselves. 25 And all the people said, His blood shall be on us and on our children! 26 Then he released Barabbas [k]for them; but after having Jesus scourged, he handed Him over to be crucified.”
Christ represented zero threat to Pilate’s secular power or authority.
>>How can a Catholic not understand Jesus death.<<
Very simple and in two words - Jesuit taught.
I am looking forward to having a glorified body and a sinless mind.
Luke 23.2 has Pilate being told that Jesus tried to prevent the payment of taxes to Caesar.
Bill Eeee-go-reilly writes books the same way he “drives” himself to work on the Long Island Expressway. One of the biggest frauds ever. He’s nothing more than a glorified Entertainment Tonight “Beyonce” reporter.
I took a New Testament course at Baylor University. We were taught about the “historical” Jesus which used history to prove His human existence. I don’t remember Him being killed over taxes.
If Bill would read the Bible instead of books written by someone else but has his name on them, he’d see that Jesus was very clear that one should pay his taxes to Caesar. Maybe Bill’s priest was one of those who said “Don’t read the Bible. I’ll tell you what’s in it.” They do exist.
Naa. O'Reilly is a self-taught idiot. Don't blame the Jesuits.
BOR is not a Christian. He displays his ignorance about Christianity every time he opens his mouth about religion. He bloviates about Jesus just like he bloviates about everything else. There is actually a more accurate “B” word for what he says. Something about a bull and his xcrement.
I suppose not living at home anymore, he hasn’t got his wife to depend on for his meds!
It’s pretty clear from the gospels that the Jewish leaders sold the crucifixion of Jesus to Pilate as necessary to keep a fledgling movement with a self-styled king from gaining a foothold. That, too, is a view that can be supported by just about every early Christian and non-Christian source I can think of. That was the jist of “ If you release this man, you are not Caesar’s friend. Everyone who makes himself a king opposes Caesar. “
Is it possible by some stretch of the case to say that Rome didn’t like their governance getting overthrown by usurper kings for a variety of reasons, one of them being because Rome was barely thriving on the tax money they got from the provinces?
It’s possible, but there’s no way to make that a primary or even a secondary reason for Jesus’ death, since Pilate seems determined to free Jesus. Tertiary? I imagine Pilate was thinking more along the lines of “Rome’s gonna be a pain in the butt over these people complaining about this Jewish preacher.”
Even the Apostle Paul, who went to Rome on charges, had preached clearly that Christians were to pay their taxes.
Dog. Bark. Wrong tree.
Yeah, I'm going to be here all week.
(With BOR one never knows....)
Any time I’ver ever heard O’Blowhard talk about Christianity, I could tell how ignorant he is on the subject. I’ve not read any of the books he has allegedly written because I probably know much more about the subjects than he.