Skip to comments.Paul: We probably can't get rid of ‘Obamacare’
Posted on 09/21/2013 2:28:46 PM PDT by Olog-hai
Republican Sen. Rand Paul says President Barack Obamas health care law probably can't be defeated or gotten rid of.
And hes suggesting there is little he and other congressional Republicans can do to stop the law from taking effect.
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Yo Paul! Aint it a bit early to show your hand?
I’d say his odds of becoming the next president just dropped big time.
Yup. Cruz was on Levin’s show Thursday night and was very gracious toward Rand. Rand seems to want the Oval Office too much, and he may be trying to distance himself from Cruz. If so, big mistake.
Gees, did Rand Paul just catch that well known disease that afflicts Republicans in Washington D.C. called Rollover Syndrome? Stand up for principle, even for a lost cause. Show the people that you aren’t another bought off politician. There goes my support for this guy.
If the majority of voters hate it, it can easily become history.
It’s worth getting the Leftie Senators to vote over and over on FUNDING it, though. And never, never give up. They all work for us, in DC, including you, Senator Paul.
The House can stand its ground until the 2014 elections and shut it all down.
Yes it can defeat Obamacare.
The Democrats are counting on Republicans not having any spine for a bite-fight to the death.
Rand is off from the majority of conservatives ~50% of the time. No way will he become POTUS.
He represents Washington for the voters back home.
We have 2 who are - Ted Cruz and Mike Lee.
Run Ted Run!!!
Yep, That is my favorite stratergy.
It is not inconsistent with what has said in the past, especially on FNS.
When the Democrats have a Senate majority, how do you get rid of Obamacare?
Isn’t Rand Paul just stating the obvious?
There really isn’t a need for a Republican Party anymore.
Paul has a point, but only if he believes that Republicans will cave in the Senate - add votes to Demos for 60 and Republicans will cave in the house in the conference.
History is on his side.
The Republicans don’t have the numbers, unfortunately.
I, myself, am not conservative on many social issues, but I’m getting tired of watching one Republican after another roll over on economic issues to this administration. How can we fix this country when our own side aids and abets the other team?
I’m afraid this acorn didn’t fall far from the tree. Like his father, his chief interest is power and pork. They talk, talk, talk, but it doesn’t mean anything when it comes to the showdown.
B/S. Something told me Rand Paul would be among the first to cave. Completely unreliable!
Hold the line!!
The house must never pass or approve any bill or senate amendment that allows obamacare to go forward.
Obamacare sets the SCOTUS approved precedent of unlimited government power. The precent set would mean that the government can force anything they wish on the American people, constitution be damned.
That would be checkmate.
Which dad do you trust as First Father? Paul’s or Cruz’s?
At the 4:50 mark of the video, Rand Paul goes totally off the rails when discussing Hussein Obama's past as a dope fiend:
"And I think what a tragedy it would it would have been if he had gone to prison. What a tragedy it would have been that America wouldn't have gotten to see Barack Obama as a leader."
There are so many things wrong with Paul's defense of Hussein Obama:
But a majority of the voters don't hate it.
We can wait for common sense in the electorate to prevail and go virtual Galt until then.
Aw krap Paul.
OF COURSE you can get rid of O-care.
Congress has the power of the purse.
Defund it and it is mostly gone.
We can clean up whatever garbage remains later on...
Polls say they do.
We should never stop trying.
Did the leftists ever stop trying to destroy traditional morals and traditional marriage?
.....”If the majority of voters hate it, it can easily become history”......not unless voter fraud stops, & nothing is being done about voter fraud....nothing whatsoever. it’s never hardly mentioned.....seems like part of a big scheme where nothing ever happens about any corruption, no matter how outrageous.
If Marriage can be toppled after thousands of years you should never say never.
It’s the Republican leaders who surrender on issue after issue.
The only way to get rid of it is if enough people refuse to sign up, especially young people who the administration is counting on.
Unfortunately, it’s what the majority of voters in 2012 wanted. So, the best way to deal with it is to let it take effect and hopefully the voters will backlash against it.
Take a page from the dims book.
If it is correct that the way obumberscare law is written that it can not be stopped, then pick out one or more obumbler pets that can be defunded and defund them totally.
When obumbler cries, tell him what it will take to get his money back.
Whack the IRS. Without the power to tax, there will be none of this foolishness.
Defund the IRS. Then when he cries, make it a sales tax with a minimum that will only fund that which the Constitution enumerates.
That’s like saying that Americans have no choice in our laws.
When the GOP had the majority and the White House, how did the Democrats get Medicare expanded?
How can we fix this country when our own side aids and abets the other team?
Well, we could start by weeding out those who are not "conservative on many social issues"
When we get the house and senate and White House...then we'll see....except it would be like trying to get rid of Medicare at that point.
If the House refuses to pass a bill funding obamacare then it doesn’t get funded. Period. And according to James Madison, that is their right and duty.
The senate has no say in the matter. If they amend the bill and send it back to the house, then the house rejects it. Then begins passing a series of individual “clean” bills to fund each and every essential department one by one. If Reid amends them, reject them again. They can play this game right up to election day. The people will not be fooled by Obama/Reid.
That’s the spirit, Rand! Way to encourage us!
If the House refuses to pass a bill funding obamacare then it doesnt get funded. Period. And according to James Madison, that is their right and duty.
The senate has no say in the matter. If they amend the bill and send it back to the house, then the house rejects it. Then begins passing a series of individual clean bills to fund each and every essential department one by one. If Reid amends them, reject them again. They can play this game right up to election day. The people will not be fooled by Obama/Reid.
And probably will never have them until the Federal Freebies dry up. Of course by then it will be too late and we will be a northern state of Mexico.
Is there anything in CONTEXT about what Rand said?
Remember, this is the Associated Press....they could be posting this to discourage us!
That is how we got rid of the IRS.
And the EPA.
Department of Education....
Wait...that didn’t work with them?
“Aint it a bit early to show your hand?”
Reality check: everybody knows how this story will end.
Republicans do not have the numbers to defeat Obamacare at the moment.
Having said that, note that there are no quotes from Rand in the excerpt that was posted.
Also in the article:
“He says that working from the position of not funding the health care law might help render it, quote, “less bad.””
Cruz and Lee are his attack dogs. At the end of the day he’s just trying to negotiate from a position of strength and hopefully postpone/delay the obamacare implementation.
Only a republican president will sign the repeal.
I agree. Rand Paul doesn’t believe in the first amendment, after all.
It’s the first amendment that says: “or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
That’s the part that’s being appealed to.
There is a grievance...ObamaCare is killing the nation already and will complete the act after it gets funded.
We are raising our voices demanding, “Don’t Do It OR Face the Consequences!”
Rand apparently believes the people are inconsequential.
This is the biggest scam perpetrated on the “middleclass” in American history! These scumbags including chief justice who failed to kill it when it came to him, are responsible and I hope they will be held accountable
Butt out of the fight, Rand.