Posted on 09/23/2013 2:38:42 PM PDT by shego
At a morning sermon Sunday in Northern Virginia, Republican lieutenant governor candidate E.W. Jackson, a Chesapeake pastor, said people who don’t follow Jesus Christ “are engaged in some sort of false religion.”
Jackson offered that view while describing a list of the “controversial” things he believes, and that must be said, as a Christian....
It is not the first time Jackson has weighed in with controversial comments on questions of faith and social issues. He has also said that gay people’s “minds are perverted. They are frankly very sick people psychologically and mentally and emotionally.”...
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
I have a number of Jewish friends who might find his comments a bit insulting.
And Jackson seems hell-bent on keeping them there.
That cite was basically an unsupported rant.
E.g. - the assertion of early Christians misunderstanding of the Jewish faith - The apostles were all of the Jewish faith, and Paul, the apostle formerly known as Saul, was a devout Jew and a religious scholar before conversion.
I know of no Jewish persecution promoted by or through Christianity. There is nothing in the Christian scriptures to promote Jewish persecution.
If you say x = 5, and I say x = 37, at least one assertion is false. Simple logic. It does not suffice to say that one of them is “incomplete”.
As a Catholic, I was taught that the Jews were the Chosen People. Jesus and his Apostles and followers were Jews. I don’t understand antisemitism.
Of course they would be insulted. But, it doesn’t mean he is wrong if you really believe in the words of Jesus Christ:
“I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me...”
For some reason the idea that Christians are monsters has occupied traditional Jewish thought for centuries.
It’s the traditional Jewish allergy to Christian theology which has, I must conclude, produced the very selective attention that traditional Jewish thought has paid to Christian affairs. Christians doing what Jesus Christ actually said to do to Jews and to all mankind, i.e. lavish love upon them, get dropped in the memory hole in traditional Jewish history. But pogroms, which needless to say are intensely disobedient to the New Testament, are never forgotten.
Part of it could also be that Christians actually being Christians, showing the gospel agape love, have steered Jews into being Christians too, and those Jews no longer speak ill of Christian faith. Whoever was left, those are the people who carried on the accounts of who Christians were.
The gospel is real and its blessings are real. The gospel is a stumbling block to Jews because it proclaims that God is more than Jews envisioned Him to be.
My point was in my very first post. Go re-read it.
Sin and evil are the causes of ungodly hatred towards people in this fallen world. Whether those people are Jews or whether they are Eskimos or whomever.
FWIW. The promise of God upon the Jewish people to destine them to an important and honorable role in the future attracts a lot of demonic opposition to them. This opposition is limited because God limits it (due to His promise He will never destroy the literal Jewish people) but it is very much present. God wants every Christian who is thus tempted by the devil to join in such opposition to get right back in the devil’s face and tell that devil to go back to the hell from where he came. (One proof of a devout Christian is that he or she WILL resist such temptations.) God loves Jews too.
Would a few examples of Jewish corroborators suffice to condemn the Jewish religion as Nazis and anti-Semitic?
I know nothing of the church you cited - but in the same citation is the statement that other Protestant churches formed in opposition - which proves that siding with the Nazis was NOT a characteristic of Christianity, but rather, a characteristic of some people - which is not surprising. Nazis were, obviously, people.
It is illogical to reach a general conclusion about any group based on common traits observed in a very small sample set - especially if you choose to ignore contrary examples from the larger group.
The members of the church you cited were also German. Should we conclude that one must live in Germany if they are Christian? No less logical than assuming one is a Jew-hater if they are a Christian.
“I know of no Jewish persecution promoted by or through Christianity.”
ROFLMAO. Go read up on the Papal States. For one great example, read about how the Pope personally oversaw the kidnapping of a Jewish child -— in 1870
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgardo_Mortara
“There is nothing in the Christian scriptures to promote Jewish persecution.”
On this, I actually agree. But Christians took it upon themselves to do it anyway, interpreting their scriptures to justify persecution.
but was the job infallible?
/sarc
You are being intentionally obtuse.
I love Christians. Wonderful people. Scriptures seem lovely, as now interpreted.
Denying the history of Christian perscuting Jewish people in the name of your Church makes you laughable.
Yes, and....?
Got it.
So, if a Pope were involved and leading it, would that be an indictment of the church? Just wondering
Thought I'd fix that for you. And it's no surprise to me at all once you clarify what you're really talking about.
“For some reason the idea that Christians are monsters has occupied traditional Jewish thought for centuries.”
Yes, that goes hand-in-hand with 1900 years of forced conversions, murders, expulsions, kidnappings, enslavement, deprivation of basic human rights, etc.
Any more Christian love like that, and we’d be wiped out.
Now, are Christians in the USA of the 21st century different? Yes. Indeed. Wonderful people.
Your historical memory IS selective. Part of the problem did come from weak congregations which forgot radical gospel principles. But that’s not all there was to Christendom.
A gal I knew who had been Roman Catholic and switched to Judaism herself lamented the way that wonderful centuries in the history of Jewish and Christian coexistence just went right down the memory hole. Since she left Christianity she would seem to have no axe to grind there.
And think, what kind of “meshugas” would lead Christians to support things like the Balfour Declaration, if they were such evil monsters. They can’t even remember to hate Jews when it comes to what is the most important moment in recent Jewish history. Maybe the devil took a holiday?
The only reason you say wonderful people is because you are in the middle of them and it is also a media age where things actually get recorded for posterity. It’s harder to ignore the good. The bad existed, but the good always outweighed it.
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