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7th-grader suspended for playing with airsoft gun in own yard
http://www.foxnews.com/ ^ | September 24, 2013 | Staff

Posted on 09/24/2013 7:26:10 AM PDT by Whenifhow

A seventh-grade student in Virginia Beach, Va., has been suspended from school for playing with an airsoft gun with a friend in his front yard while waiting for the school bus.

WAVY-TV reports that 13-year-old Khalid Caraballo will find out soon if he will be expelled for "possession, handling and use of a firearm" because the guns were fired at two others playing in Caraballo's yard.

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The school's so-called "zero-tolerance" policy on guns extends to private property, according to the report.

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"It's on your school record. The school said I had possession of a firearm. They aren't going to ask me any questions. They are going to think it was a real gun, and I was trying to hurt someone," he said.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; education; guncontrol; liberalsareinsane; school; secondamendment; toygun; zerotolerance
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To: PapaBear3625

Notice how many are so quick to denigrate the School but fail to notice this punk was shooting kids near or at the bus stop. If it were one of my kids the punishment would have been much more severe so I applaud this kids removal.


41 posted on 09/24/2013 8:01:39 AM PDT by soupbone1
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To: PilotDave
Agreed on the Pellet Guns, likely the "journalist" didn't know what they were talkng about.

I think that it's likely an "Airsoft" gun. They're the current fad, at least in my neck of the world. Lots of "airsoft wars" going on. I was a little concerned, until I went out and had them shoot me with one, they're about one step below paintballs. My only rule for my kids is that they need to wear eye protection.

I read the letter from the school principal, referenced in post #30. Fills some of this story in, but not completely. Missing, or glossed over, is whether or not everyone involved was a willing participant.

If my neighbor's kid and my kid were shooting at each other in my backyard, this would be a non-story. However, if my neighbors kid was shooting at my (unarmed, unprotected) kid, while he was waiting for the school bus to come ..... well, then, a school suspension would be the last of his worries.

42 posted on 09/24/2013 8:02:35 AM PDT by wbill
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To: soupbone1

GMTA, see my post 42.


43 posted on 09/24/2013 8:03:38 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Whenifhow

Crap, when I was in 7th grade I was shooting indoor smallbore at the local high school because the range was in the basement.


44 posted on 09/24/2013 8:04:31 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Whenifhow
"Are there any articles about this event?"

Not seen any but their is a website: HvZ Athens

45 posted on 09/24/2013 8:04:33 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Thanks !


46 posted on 09/24/2013 8:06:33 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: PilotDave

An airsoft gun fires soft plastic BBs that will leave a mark but are designed to bounce off the target — hence the name “Air SOFT”.

The ammunition they fire are called Pellets, so the school is calling them by the correct name.

And trust me these “Soft” pellets sting just as bad a a paint ball when they hit.


47 posted on 09/24/2013 8:09:08 AM PDT by commish (The takers rule. Time to implement the triple G plan - GOD, GUNS, & GOLD)
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To: PilotDave

Airsoft guns definitely leave marks! My son and husband use to go to big airsoft games. The guys make sure they are complete covered in clothing. My guys wore fatigues. Then, they always wear protective eye gear.

The pellets are look a little bigger than BBs, and they are made out of plastic.

They hurt if you get shot!


48 posted on 09/24/2013 8:12:20 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: PilotDave
I call BS! I know of no pellet gun that would only leave a mark.

I had one. I used to shoot corrugated cardboard indoors with it. I once had a bb come straight back at me. Yes, in the eye, but I was wearing glasses, rather than contacts.

After that, I'd take the time to load a dart (or pellet), rather than use the small store of bb's.

Just sayin'.

That said, sue the everybody involved in attempting to extend their petty, and unrelated power to the home.

49 posted on 09/24/2013 8:16:00 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: elpadre

Straights and gays...with a few Bi’s and T’s.
Just think..I kid can choose his or her sex, but not play with a toy gun.


50 posted on 09/24/2013 8:19:59 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Whenifhow
from wiki

"A typical set of velocity for sanctioned fields in the United States on guns may be 350 feet per second (110 m/s) for Close Quarters Battle (CQB), 400 feet per second (120 m/s) for outdoor play with fully automatic AEG's, 450 feet per second (140 m/s) for semi-auto "DMR" style AEG's, and 550 feet per second (170 m/s) for bolt action sniper rifles, for a 0.20 g pellet.

for comparison purposes

"The standard velocity .22 Short launches a 29-grain bullet at 1,045 feet per second. 95 J of energy"

Probably the best comparison is energy; The plastic pellet gun has approximately 1 joule of energy, the 22 has approximately 95 joules of energy.

While the plastic pellet might sting a bit at close range it is basically harmless. The kids were out of line shooting at the other kids waiting at the bus stop. The school over reacted big time, zero tolerance is a cop out for those to stupid/cowardly to think for themselves. At worst these kids should get a week of detention.

51 posted on 09/24/2013 8:20:39 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: jpsb
The idiot 911 caller is the mother of one of the kids playing with the oh so scary guns. Unbelievable. These ninnies make me "uncomfortable" to the extreme.

The caller also knew the gun wasn't real and said so, "This is not a real one, but it makes people uncomfortable. I know that it makes me (uncomfortable), as a mom, to see a boy pointing a gun," she told the 911 dispatcher... Ironically, that 911 caller's son was playing with Khalid and Aidan in the Caraballo front yard

http://www.wavy.com/news/local/va-beach/has-zero-tolerance-gone-too-far

52 posted on 09/24/2013 8:26:53 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Who was involved in the investigation? Those within the school?

“”we identified the children who were firing pellet guns””

Based on the fact they can’t even get their facts straight, does their investigation seem credible to you?


53 posted on 09/24/2013 9:17:46 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: commish
The ammunition they fire are called Pellets, so the school is calling them by the correct name.

Wrong, pellet guns fire metal or lead pellets. Airsoft use only plastic BB's...

Big difference.

54 posted on 09/24/2013 9:22:43 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: jimsin

Word to the wise. Using all caps in posts is annoying to most readers.


55 posted on 09/24/2013 9:43:52 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: jennychase
Now kids can’t copy Sgt Saunders of Combat in their own yard .

Today's kids have no idea who you're talking about. 'Combat' was a hit TV series fifty years ago. I know, because my brothers and I watched it religiously, and played war games with plastic guns every day.

We worked it out of our systems through fantasy play, and grew up to be a pretty sane and balanced lot.

56 posted on 09/24/2013 9:48:14 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: PapaBear3625
He wasn't suspended for having an airsoft gun. He was suspended for assaulting other kids waiting for the school bus with it.

Well that certainly puts a different twist on this report, doesn't it?

57 posted on 09/24/2013 9:49:54 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Crap, when I was in 7th grade I was shooting indoor smallbore at the local high school because the range was in the basement.

Our local High School still has an indoor range and a school sanctioned rifle team that competes with other local school teams.

58 posted on 09/24/2013 10:01:03 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: Whenifhow

The school in question is Larkspur Middle School. The principal’s name is Delaney. I think it’s Matthew Delaney. Not sure.


59 posted on 09/24/2013 10:02:44 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: Bringbackthedraft

I was going hunting with a shotgun at age 13.


60 posted on 09/24/2013 11:22:28 AM PDT by fredhead (Join the Navy and see the world.....77% of which is covered in water.)
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