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Shutdown: Hundreds of thousands will go without pay as federal government loses funding
The Daily Mail ^ | 9/30/13

Posted on 09/30/2013 11:07:46 PM PDT by Nachum

The federal government shut down for the first time in 17 years last night.

Lawmakers in the Democrat-controlled Senate and Republican-controlled Congress failed to pass a budget allowing for the federal government to continue to be funded as it headed into the new fiscal year at midnight.

Late night negotiations ended in deadlock after the Senate Democrats refused to consider any version of the budget that included changes to President Obama's signature health care law.

This lack of compromise means that nearly a million federal workers will go on unpaid leave until the two legislative bodies come to an agreement.

As the zero-hour drew closer on Monday, with other avenues exhausted, the White House's Office of Management and Budget told federal agencies that they 'should now execute plans for an orderly shutdown due to the absence of appropriations.'

House Republican leaders on the Rules Committee had discussed the procedures for both parties to appoint 'conferees' – negotiating representatives – for a joint House-Senate conference committee empowered to hash out a compromise of the budget battle that has consumed Washington for days.

The House GOP scrambled all day to avoid being the party without a chair when the shutdown music stops and the federal government moves to a new fiscal year without money to spend.

Republicans have been insisting that a Continuing Resolution funding the federal government – a 'CR,' in Capitol Hill-speak – must include language defunding, delaying or otherwise changing the Affordable Care Act, President Obama's signature health care legislation.

Democratic Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid had said hours earlier that House GOP members had 'lost their minds.' That barb followed the House's decision to send its third such budget proposal to the Senate – one that everyone in Washington understood would be dead on arrival.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: 113th; obamacare; pay; shutdown
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To: dagogo redux

> How does this compare to the millions without work/pay that the gov has created in the private sector?

Boy you got that right...I don’t know any business owners that haven’t suffered or been unaffected under this administration


41 posted on 10/01/2013 2:52:50 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck

Careful Marine, that kind of common sense will get you banned.


42 posted on 10/01/2013 3:32:21 AM PDT by CPONuke
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To: pepsionice

Initially I thought you might be right. But I doubt it makes it more than 2 full days before the floor caves in.


43 posted on 10/01/2013 3:33:59 AM PDT by CPONuke
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck

Pentagon Leatherneck:

I thought the military pay bill included DOD civilians?


44 posted on 10/01/2013 3:36:58 AM PDT by GatorGirl (Who is John Galt?)
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To: GatorGirl

Nope. Lots of DoD civilians are going unpaid right now. They have to vacate the base by 3pm.


45 posted on 10/01/2013 3:53:03 AM PDT by Justa
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To: GatorGirl

Absolutely not—active duty only. And remember—it’s only a House Bill right now, despite what the media are reporting.

TC


46 posted on 10/01/2013 3:53:35 AM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: Nachum

Unfortunately none of them will be senators, congressmen, or members of the administration.


47 posted on 10/01/2013 3:59:54 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Nachum

So what? There has never been a federal employee that gave a damn about my self-employed paycheck.

LLS


48 posted on 10/01/2013 4:43:40 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Yep, my husband who owns a construction related business went without a paycheck for two years after the crash - nobody cared.


49 posted on 10/01/2013 4:47:44 AM PDT by colorcountry (The gospel will transform our politics, not vice versa (Romans 12:1,2))
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To: Nachum
Oh no!

Hundreds of thousands of bureaucratic LEACHES will be without a paycheck. Obama will be without the assistant to the assistant food taster. Government snoops will be snooping less. Waste, fraud, & abuse goes on furlough.

Where is the downside?

50 posted on 10/01/2013 4:51:49 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Nachum

paid vacation you mean

they will receive the money they would have earned after the shutdown is over


51 posted on 10/01/2013 4:54:47 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: colorcountry

Your husband had no paycheck.

I am so tired of the people worrying about the staffers in Washington taking a pay cut as they have to pay for Obamacare. SO DO THE REST OF US!


52 posted on 10/01/2013 4:55:23 AM PDT by Chickensoup (...We didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: Nachum

-———an orderly shutdown due to the absence of appropriations-——

an absence of appropriations........ hmmm

That means, in accordance with the Constitutuon, the Executive Branch must curtail functions because of prior abuse by both the Executive Branch and the Legislative Branch to make the necessary appropriations in and orderly and acceptable fashion.

The current House of Representatives Legislative Branch is insisting that it’s power previously usurped be returned. The House is attempting to gain the constitutional control over appropriations. The failed Executive Branch is resorting to total distortion and outright lies to continue to usurp the House’s role.

If the President prevails, he is placing his life in danger. His treacherous tyranny will not end well.


53 posted on 10/01/2013 5:10:24 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck

Nope Zero signed it yesterday.


54 posted on 10/01/2013 5:12:33 AM PDT by GatorGirl (Who is John Galt?)
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To: JediJones
But I’m sure Obama will negate it all with an executive order that restores back pay and deny our bloated budget the much-needed savings.

That would mean that they would be getting paid for not working. In other words, nothing will change.

55 posted on 10/01/2013 5:21:08 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Thats not true. And you know it.

They all care about the part of it you send them to waste.

I have to send them one too.

Sucks big time.


56 posted on 10/01/2013 5:21:59 AM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: Nachum

The Federal contractors will start screaming bloody murder soon...... I cannot see how they are going to be paid during this shutdown. Some of these contractors do useful real world work for the Federales while many are being paid for doing useless crap same as 50% of FedGov workers are doing make work, nothing useful


57 posted on 10/01/2013 5:23:55 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Nachum

Kinda annoying that they tell them not to do any work but they will get back pay when they go back to work.


58 posted on 10/01/2013 5:27:49 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck

Agree, quite a few haters on FR always grouping all federal employees together. I will just chalk it up to ignorance.


59 posted on 10/01/2013 5:45:49 AM PDT by silly.kerry.trix.are.for.kids
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To: silly.kerry.trix.are.for.kids

Agreed as well.

What isn’t being reported tho is that, due to how the Federal pay periods work most Exec Branch Feds were paid this past weekend and aren’t due to get paid again until the weekend of Oct 12th. Congressional staff, who get paid monthly are in even better shape.

So no one is going without pay, not being able to pay bills, etc yet. We’ll see what happens come mid-month ... but I guess this is all over and the Feds will still get paid.


60 posted on 10/01/2013 6:02:33 AM PDT by tanknetter
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