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Live mic catches Senators McConnell and Paul talking strategy
wpsdlocal6 ^ | 2 Oct 2013 | Web Editor - Mason Stevenson

Posted on 10/02/2013 8:33:26 PM PDT by 11th_VA

WASHINGTON, D.C. - WPSD Local 6 got an inside glimpse Wednesday night to how much the government shutdown is about the messaging for congressional lawmakers.

After finishing an interview with CNN, Kentucky Senator Rand Paul ran into Senator Mitch McConnell, who was waiting for an interview of his own.

In front of a camera, with a microphone on, the two Kentucky leaders talked strategy. Senator Paul began, "Do you have a second?" "I'm all wired up here, um," Senator McConnell replied.

"I just did CNN and I just go over and over again 'We're willing to compromise. 'We're willing to negotiate.' I think... I don't think they poll tested we won't negotiate. I think it's awful for them to say that over and over again," Paul said.

"Yeah, I do too and I, and I just came back from that two hour meeting with them and that, and that was basically the same view privately as it was publically," McConnell agreed.

Paul added, "I think if we keep saying 'We wanted to defund it. We fought for that and that we're willing to compromise on this', I think they can't, we're gonna, I think... well I know we don't want to be here, but we're gonna win this I think."

Paul has said that he doesn't want a government shutdown, but that the U.S. must find ways to reduce debt.


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1 posted on 10/02/2013 8:33:26 PM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA
I think they can't, we're gonna, I think... well I know we don't ...

It has a kind of poetry to it ...

2 posted on 10/02/2013 8:35:39 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: 11th_VA

Nothing to parse. No there there. Nothing bad. Unlike Boner stabbing us in the back.


3 posted on 10/02/2013 8:37:15 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: 11th_VA

Something tells me this won’t be picked up. These kind of inside baseball conversations happen all the time.

I’d be more worried about these Boehner emails.

Great to see Rand thinks we will win though. He’s not a wild-eyed optimist either.


4 posted on 10/02/2013 8:38:07 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: 11th_VA

Mitch should have repeated - - louder, “I’m all wired up here”.


5 posted on 10/02/2013 8:38:34 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: 11th_VA

And then Paul said “lord satan I worshop you.” Let’s just put a wooden stake in his heart.


6 posted on 10/02/2013 8:39:05 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Viennacon

Almost seems like a contrived hot mic moment. Rand’s a crafty little bugger. I am glad he is on our side.


7 posted on 10/02/2013 8:39:41 PM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: Viennacon
I’d be more worried about these Boehner emails.

I think that Politico writer has had those since April.

8 posted on 10/02/2013 8:39:52 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: ClearCase_guy
"I don't think they [the RATS?] poll tested we won't negotiate. I think it's awful for them [the RATS] to say that over and over again," Paul said.

So Paul is saying the RATS are losing points every time they say "we won't negotiate"

9 posted on 10/02/2013 8:39:57 PM PDT by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

10 posted on 10/02/2013 8:39:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: 11th_VA

I am ticked off. My son, who is a recent high school graduate has been trying to find a steady job for months, was hired for a job. Then he was told that he can’t start work yet because they have to run his name through Everify before he can start this new job. Obama shut down the Everify website. He put up a cyber Barrycade, I guess. What a great way to help the economy.


11 posted on 10/02/2013 8:45:22 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: Viennacon

>> Great to see Rand thinks we will win though.

Yes, but disappointing to think that he trusts McChinless with his strategic thoughts.


12 posted on 10/02/2013 8:45:33 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: 11th_VA

Reps will never win the media war. The only thing to do is be consistent.

Reps should hit the new media hard. not sure social media is worth the time, full of liberals


13 posted on 10/02/2013 8:46:29 PM PDT by Farnsworth ("The people have always some champion whom they set over them and nurse into greatness...This and no)
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To: 11th_VA

I’m shock McConnell would deign to talk to Paul. I thought he hated him with a passion.


14 posted on 10/02/2013 8:48:04 PM PDT by nickcarraway (They should call it a government shut up, not a government shut down)
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To: 11th_VA

Who is “they” in “I don’t think they poll tested we won’t negotiate”. By context, it would appear to be the media. The only explanation I can up with is that the “republicans won’t negotiate” message isn’t gaining traction, and as a result, the Republicans are seeing some good polling numbers. Also, later lines indicate that the polling is showing that the “we wanted to defund, but will settle for a delay” approach is resonating.

But the fly in the ointment is the “it’s awful for them to say that”, unless he just means it’s a tactical mistake for them to keep harping on the “won’t negotiate” message. Otherwise, it doesn’t mesh well with the above.

Any other explanations?


15 posted on 10/02/2013 8:48:37 PM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: riri
I'm waiting for a fully contrived moment:

"Have you got a sec?"
"Well, I'm all wired up here ..."
"Don't worry. They never turn those mics on until just before you go out there. Listen, did you see those photos?"
"The ones with Obama? And that boy?"
"I couldn't believe it."
"Do you ... do you think he lived?"
"I dunno. I mean, a lot of people have strange tastes and all ... but ... that's twisted."
I just got back from the White House. He sounded scared."
"He thinks we're going to say something?"
"No. Not that. He knows we won't talk about that. But I think ... I think he gets these urges. I think he's afraid that he'd going to do it again. I mean, he's got another trip coming up. That's when he ... you know ... he has these kids brought to him ..."
"It's awful."
"It sure is. Well, I think I have to go out there now and talk about budget stuff."
"Good luck."

16 posted on 10/02/2013 8:48:54 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: 11th_VA
Paul added, "I think if we keep saying 'We wanted to defund it. We fought for that and that we're willing to compromise on this', I think they can't, we're gonna, I think... well I know we don't want to be here, but we're gonna win this I think."

So Paul is saying: "I think if we keep saying 'We wanted to defund it ... [but] ... we're willing to compromise on this' ... we're gonna win this "

OK, I get it. We are the party of compromise, you won't compromise, we will win the argument.

17 posted on 10/02/2013 8:49:23 PM PDT by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: ClearCase_guy
ha! Right. Maybe I am just getting delusional. Probably. I.just.wanna.win.one.time.

Just

one

time.

18 posted on 10/02/2013 8:51:21 PM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: 11th_VA

If Jesse Jackson can talk about ‘cutting Obamas nuts out’ this is a non-event.


19 posted on 10/02/2013 8:51:54 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: jjsheridan5

See my posts 9 and 17. The RATS are the ones saying ‘We eon’t negotiate’ the Mc says that’s what they are saying in private as well.


20 posted on 10/02/2013 8:52:38 PM PDT by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: ClearCase_guy

This genius is the GOP frontrunner for POTUS in 2016?


21 posted on 10/02/2013 8:53:22 PM PDT by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: Viennacon

I dunno, Viennacon, ...knowing McConnell lives for coming up with nothing, or caving entirely, and that neither “want to be where we are”, what is there to possibly win when McConnell is included in that... “we” business, as Rand remarked?

At least this was said in passing, not like Coburn saying the Republicans will fold like a pancake. He should know.


22 posted on 10/02/2013 8:53:29 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: petitfour

That really does suck


23 posted on 10/02/2013 8:53:43 PM PDT by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: petitfour
Obama shut down the Everify website.

SURPRISE SURPRISE! Looks like another talking point. Obama wants to turn us into a third world hell hole. What better way to his commie agenda than to turn off the hiring of AMERICAN citizens!

24 posted on 10/02/2013 8:54:23 PM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals crazy!)
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To: 11th_VA

Make Dingy eat his peas and pass a balanced budget.


25 posted on 10/02/2013 8:55:57 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Lancey Howard

Maybe Midge is ALWAYS all *wired up*, so Rand didn’t get the drift - business as usual.


26 posted on 10/02/2013 8:56:20 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

LMAO! Oh how sweet it would be!


27 posted on 10/02/2013 8:56:24 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: 11th_VA

That’s how I took it too. When “we” includes McConnell, there is never anything won. Rand said, “I think *we*’re going to win this.”


28 posted on 10/02/2013 8:58:34 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Lancey Howard

Boner still needs to go down, just a month from now.


29 posted on 10/02/2013 8:59:04 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SunkenCiv

Dr. Paul is a loose cannon.


30 posted on 10/02/2013 9:00:13 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: 11th_VA

Lord above! The Pubbies talk to each other and develop strategies? Who knew? Is this a recent development?


31 posted on 10/02/2013 9:00:51 PM PDT by mwilli20 (BO. Making communists proud all over the world.)
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To: 11th_VA

You are right. Thanks. The “it’s awful” part. Do you think he means “it’s awful strategy”, or “it’s awful ethically”? I assume the former, mostly because of the earlier “poll-tested” part. The reason I am asking is because they probably have a much better idea than anyone else how this is playing out in the public. If they mean “it’s awful strategy”, then it would seem unambiguous that the Republicans are getting some encouraging numbers.


32 posted on 10/02/2013 9:02:06 PM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: RitaOK

They don’t want to be there. Going into this, the polling looked bleak and the chuckle heads on Fox were slamming them left and right.

However, things are looking brighter each day for a few reasons.

- They have more bipartisan support than the opposition
- They forced red state Democrat senators to make votes that will be disastrous in 2014
- Obama really screwed up putting those Barry-cades up around the WWII memorial. He’s being trashed everywhere for that.
- Harry Reid’s declaration of “why would we stop kids dying of cancer?” is going to become infamous
- The rollout has been a disaster. Websites crashing and overloaded, yet they’ve signed up 1%.
- Obama is weaker than they thought he would be. His speeches are stale, and his approval is around 40% and dropping.

Remarkably, events are turning against Reid and co.


33 posted on 10/02/2013 9:04:08 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: RitaOK

They don’t want to be there. Going into this, the polling looked bleak and the chuckle heads on Fox were slamming them left and right.

However, things are looking brighter each day for a few reasons.

- They have more bipartisan support than the opposition
- They forced red state Democrat senators to make votes that will be disastrous in 2014
- Obama really screwed up putting those Barry-cades up around the WWII memorial. He’s being trashed everywhere for that.
- Harry Reid’s declaration of “why would we stop kids dying of cancer?” is going to become infamous
- The rollout has been a disaster. Websites crashing and overloaded, yet they’ve signed up 1%.
- Obama is weaker than they thought he would be. His speeches are stale, and his approval is around 40% and dropping.

Remarkably, events are turning against Reid and co.


34 posted on 10/02/2013 9:04:08 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: 11th_VA

>> “I’m all wired up here, um,” Senator McConnell replied.

What’s to parse? They realize they’re on live mic.


35 posted on 10/02/2013 9:07:33 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: petitfour

I just tried to get info on a National Park and the server was shut down. Same principle.

A server just runs forever on the internet without any human intervention. Who gave the orders to shut them down? Why? Isn’t this petulant and childish?

On the other hand, I never listen to NPR because I am philosophically opposed to fed funding for a propaganda dispensing organizing. Yet their website has not been disabled. Go figure....


36 posted on 10/02/2013 9:09:25 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: jjsheridan5
“it’s awful strategy” - yeah, saying we won't negotiate doesn't go over well with the public. The Rats are now the party of NO. I still think 'Chucky' is the brains behind this party and if so, picked a terrible strategy.

The RATS must have bet that the campaign to 'BRAND' the GOP as extremists, terrorists, bomb wearing, would pull their [the GOP's] numbers down so far they couldn't recover.

The RATS had to take the 'We won't Negotiate' track else, if they give during this time, it will set a precedent going forward.

37 posted on 10/02/2013 9:11:35 PM PDT by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: 11th_VA
"Yeah, I do too and I, and I just came back from that two hour meeting with them and that, and that was basically the same view privately as it was publically," McConnell agreed.

There's the money quote. 0bama is as intransigent privately as he is publicly. TOTUS has not "bent over backwards" to work with Republicans. That was a lie.

President Obama ‘Exasperated’ by Shutdown, Says, ‘I Have Bent Over Backwards to Work With the.....

‘Exasperated’ Obama tells congressional leaders he ‘will not negotiate’ (Obama owns the shutdown)

Just since this moring 0bama has said "I won't negotiate" then he said "I bent over backwards" then he said "I won't negotiate" then he had his private meeting making it appear that he would work with the House and now we find out he refused to negotiate there.

0bama is cycling faster than a schizophrenic on meth.

38 posted on 10/02/2013 9:13:42 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Paladin2

What is there to win? Obamacare is not going to be delayed or un-funded. The rollout happened. Debt ceiling? Obama doesn’t have to run again. He spoke to Harwood today so he could speak to Wall Street. Believe what you want but Wall Street will not allow a default. Too many R’s have funding ire directly to it. Hell even the Koch’s don’t want it. Lets face it 250 million buys you policy. I still see no way of “winning” whatever that looks like. I have cheered out in public but post my real thoughts here. I am not afraid or squimesh but I do understand reality. Do the CR and we could get a favorable budget through conference. We have a good solid pr position on spending but the shutdown is not helping. The house is going to cave. 21 and counting so far have publicly said they would pass cr. how many Dems said they would defund Obamacare? By my count 2 in house and maybe 1 senator. What will be the tipping point? 40? 50? Not many more.
Again just one mans opinion but I ask again what does a win look like? What has to happen for republicans to say yes we won. How likely are we to get there? I am curious to see shut down polls. They will start dropping tomorrow and Friday.


39 posted on 10/02/2013 9:19:24 PM PDT by chopperjc
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To: TigersEye
Just since this moring 0bama has said "I won't negotiate" then he said "I bent over backwards"

Excellent point !!!

40 posted on 10/02/2013 9:21:31 PM PDT by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: 11th_VA

He has frequently flip-flopped as often as every 24 hours but today he flipped back and forth about five times. When a schizophrenic starts cycling that fast you can almost guarantee a full blown psychotic break is at hand. I don’t know how it works for a pathological narcissist which is a nutcake of a different color.


41 posted on 10/02/2013 9:29:33 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: chopperjc; Admin Moderator

Nice posting history!


42 posted on 10/02/2013 9:39:13 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: chopperjc

The GOP has to know, understand in their gut, if they back down they are done. Pack it in. The Ballot Box is broken, permanently. Time to move on to the next or live on your knees. There is a damn good reason the WWII Memorial resonates so well. They wouldn’t stand for tyranny taking over the globe. Will we?


43 posted on 10/02/2013 9:40:10 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: chopperjc
I am curious to see shut down polls. They will start dropping tomorrow and Friday.

Most recent poll shows RATS and GOP both being blamed BUT ... GOP is turning the RATS into the party of 'No'; the rats keep shooting down measures to fund certain agencies - the GOP is winning this ...

44 posted on 10/02/2013 9:41:15 PM PDT by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Thanks!? Obviously you have an issue. What would that be? I am consistent. What specifically did you disagree with in latest post? What so you disagree with in my past? Please have at it.


45 posted on 10/02/2013 9:49:20 PM PDT by chopperjc
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To: 11th_VA

Yeah I seen that one, 5 points down is not winning. I get your point though. We need a 3 or 4 day sample which is why I think tomorrow and Fridays will carry som weight.


46 posted on 10/02/2013 9:53:11 PM PDT by chopperjc
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To: chopperjc

Your posts are concern trolling, defeatest, conventional ‘wisdom’, establishment nonsense. You definitely are consistant though.


47 posted on 10/02/2013 9:56:31 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: perfect_rovian_storm; chopperjc

-— Your posts are concern trolling, defeatest, conventional ‘wisdom’, establishment nonsense. You definitely are consistant though. -—

But repetitive and... Booooooring.

Personally, I’m enjoying the hell out of this. Barry is getting his ass kicked. And the Rats are coming unglued, gaffing all over the place.


48 posted on 10/02/2013 10:02:45 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

So I have an opinion. Which obviously does not match yours. Ok fine I asked some questions in my post. Please show me where I am wrong, change my mind.


49 posted on 10/02/2013 10:03:25 PM PDT by chopperjc
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To: chopperjc

Looking at your thread history, you appear to be one big concern troll. Every post you’ve made is to tell FR how the Republicans are on the losing side of whatever the issue is. Every post, in every thread, on every issue.


50 posted on 10/02/2013 10:05:54 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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