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Pent-Up Demand for Health Insurance
New York Times ^ | October 4, 2013 | The Editorial Board

Posted on 10/05/2013 3:05:08 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

There were plenty of computer glitches when millions of Americans went online to check out their options for affordable insurance policies. It was frustrating, but it was also an indication of overwhelming interest that exceeded all predictions.

Neither federal nor state officials were willing to say how many people actually enrolled in a health plan the first week, but the numbers are surely low. People need time to ponder their choices.

The administration’s goal is to enroll some seven million uninsured Americans in health plans on the exchanges in 2014. They hope that 2.8 million will be young people between the ages of 18 and 34, whose participation is needed to help subsidize coverage for older and sicker people.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: failure; journalism; obamacare; rinocare
The Marxists editors struggling with Econ 101.
1 posted on 10/05/2013 3:05:08 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Obamacare - Overpriced crap.

The ‘left’ destroys everything they get their hands on!


2 posted on 10/05/2013 3:10:55 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Was it millions of potential enrollees or the same ones trying over and over and over to get in? And browsing the site don’t mean they’re buying - unless they find out it’s FREE. Most haven’t been able to get that far into the system to find out. Maybe the back end has not even been developed and all they have is a broken GUI.


3 posted on 10/05/2013 3:21:55 AM PDT by informavoracious (We're being "punished" with Stanley Ann's baby. Obamacare: shovel-ready healthcare.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Hmmmm…seems Obamacare has set up additional ‘BARRYcades’ against American jobs by outsourcing Obamacare IT work.

Canadian firm hired to build troubled Obamacare exchanges
A Canadian tech firm that has provided service to that country's single-payer health care system is behind the glitch-ridden United States national health care exchange site healthcare.gov.

CGI Federal is a subsidiary of Montreal-based CGI Group. With offices in Fairfax, Va., the subsidiary has been a darling of the Obama administration, which since 2009 has bestowed it with $1.4 billion in federal contracts, according to USAspending.gov.

The "CGI" in the parent company's name stands for "Conseillers en Gestion et Informatique" in French, which roughly translates to "Information Systems and Management Consultants." However, the firm offers another translation: "Consultants to Government and Industry."

The company is deeply embedded in Canada’s single-payer system. CGI has provided IT services to the Canadian Ministries of Health in Alberta, British Columbia, New Brunswick, Quebec and Saskatchewan, as well as to the national health provider, Health Canada, according to CGI's Canadian website.


4 posted on 10/05/2013 3:22:55 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
This is the official 0bamacare Facebook Page. The sticker shock stories are priceless!! The youngsters are getting an education and they don't like it!!

Here's are a few samples for your enjoyment.

Seth Whitt - Just did the "calculator" and found out my premiums will triple, deductible is through the roof, and I don't qualify for any assistance. This thing is a NIGHTMARE!!!

Sharon Hopper - @Mary Schmit: I am over 60 and according to the calculator my premiums almost triples and my out of pocket is more than triple what I pay now. I get NO subsidy.

Jim Mace - WOW, is every single person posting on here a republican mole posting LIES??? What a bunch of idiots.

There are number of Obot trolls attempting to dispense koolaid, but folks are not drinking it!

5 posted on 10/05/2013 3:34:09 AM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

There is nothing optional in buy it or pay a fine. Then lets see how affordable they regard it down the line.


6 posted on 10/05/2013 3:55:14 AM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I thought the goal was 30 million uninsured. How did we get down to 7 million?


7 posted on 10/05/2013 3:57:16 AM PDT by MortMan (Disarming the sheep only emboldens the wolves.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"They hope that 2.8 million will be young people between the ages of 18 and 34, whose participation is needed to help subsidize coverage for older and sicker people."

So it's admitted up front that this is just one big Ponzi scheme!

8 posted on 10/05/2013 4:00:01 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: precisionshootist

Pretty much.


9 posted on 10/05/2013 4:11:11 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
a goal that should be reachable with an aggressive recruiting effort.


10 posted on 10/05/2013 4:18:35 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

NY Slimes....thinks the massive failure of the Clown’s web page is a sign of success.

Idiots.


11 posted on 10/05/2013 4:20:13 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Islander7

99% of the low information crowd signing up for Obamacare really believe it’s free. Imagine their surprise when they find out they have to pay for it.


12 posted on 10/05/2013 4:21:32 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I will be looking into it to see if it offers me a cheaper rate and better coverage. If it does, I will take it. Politics aside, the health and welfare of my family come first.

I have a feeling it will turn out to be worthless but to not investigate it, considering my current costs and coverage through work, would be imbecilic.


13 posted on 10/05/2013 4:23:55 AM PDT by sakic
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The administration’s goal is to enroll some seven million uninsured Americans in health plans on the exchanges in 2014.

Hmmmm...I seem to recall hearing Obama's incessant campaigning, that the goal was 3 or 4 times the NYT above quoted figure of 7 Million. What happened? Why the correction/revision/change/subterfuge/misdirection/modification/reediting/reconsideration/redaction/adjustment/difference/contraction/reversal?????????? ;)

14 posted on 10/05/2013 4:31:57 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: sakic

I suspect a lot of people will do what you are considering...it is called competition. Unfortunately, the playing field may not be equal.


15 posted on 10/05/2013 4:35:40 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Can we comapre the hits to Drudge, wikipedia or FR? Pahtetic indeed.


16 posted on 10/05/2013 4:35:58 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother (01-21-13, Obama declares war on The Constitution of the United States)
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To: Islander7

I checked out the info on the Arizona ACA site and found out that there are 106 different plans for Pinal County alone! The plans include PPOs, HMOs, and even a few catastrophic ones by Aetna, Cigna, Health Net, BCBS, University of Arizona, and Meritus (which was super expensive). So much for health insurance reform.


17 posted on 10/05/2013 4:37:09 AM PDT by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

what a hoot, pent up demand for overpriced holey health insurance that rations your care, un huh that’s the ticket


18 posted on 10/05/2013 4:37:25 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“The administration’s goal is to enroll some seven million uninsured Americans in health plans on the exchanges in 2014.”

But, but we were told there are 48 million uninsured people here in Acirema. So, we are going to spend trillions of dollars we don’t have to insure 14% of the uninsured. Wow, that’s the Yankee government for you.

“If the government was in charge of the Sahara Desert, there would be a shortage of sand in five years.” Milton Friedman


19 posted on 10/05/2013 4:39:06 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: sakic
Cost isn't your only consideration. You need to consider where you will receive treatment. Also, when the system goes single payer run by the Feds, what happens during the next fight over the budget. Who gets furloughed then?
20 posted on 10/05/2013 4:40:34 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother (01-21-13, Obama declares war on The Constitution of the United States)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Most of the traffic on the exchange sites is curiosity rather than a desire to sign up. I would compare it to all the people who went on line to view the video of Miley Cyrus twerking. They went to see what all the buzz was about. After viewing the video, they vomited for an hour or so and never went back. People going to the exchanges did it for the same reason and had the same reaction. The only differences are that more people went to view Miley and they didn’t experience as much difficulty getting to the video. Maybe Obama and Reid should make a twerking video.


21 posted on 10/05/2013 4:49:17 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (What's the frequency, Kenneth?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The dog ate my homework.


22 posted on 10/05/2013 4:52:37 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: precisionshootist

And the older people have to subsidize the younger by making me have maternity, pediatric eye and dental coverage. Not to mention birth control and abortion coverage. I am 62 and do not need this stuff.


23 posted on 10/05/2013 5:04:05 AM PDT by lilypad
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To: Mouton

The only way to judge is to investigate. To not do so would make one an idiot.


24 posted on 10/05/2013 5:04:34 AM PDT by sakic
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother

That is all part of the investigation. If there are real choices to be made that can benefit my family, I would be a failure to not explore those possibilities.

I trust no politician on either side. I act in this matter with no allegiance to anyone other than my family.


25 posted on 10/05/2013 5:07:30 AM PDT by sakic
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Oh, my God. They’ve overdosed on hopium.


26 posted on 10/05/2013 5:08:25 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: TalBlack

Yup, and in the company where I (thankfully to God) work, the Official Warning went out. Tea Party, you are now making a lot more sense... God was not thwarted when Roberts threw in with the “this is a tax” crowd... God is organizing a revolt here, IMHO. Will we let ourselves be taxed by an ever more greedy Caesar or will we give ourselves to a gracious God again? It’s a no brainer, but our brains are stupified yet.


27 posted on 10/05/2013 5:12:18 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: sakic

Well, this mess will not be able to “fool all the people all the time.” Even a totally self centered crowd is going to find itself with discontents, because evil cannot overcome the deficit of grace which fundamentally defines itself.


28 posted on 10/05/2013 5:13:52 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: WashingtonSource

This is going to have to get uglier and uglier until a stupefied country comes to its senses. That’s how God works. We can try to help mitigate by evangelizing like there was no tomorrow to do it in.


29 posted on 10/05/2013 5:15:52 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

99% of the hits on bamster’s website were the press playing with the system. No one wants it and those saying that they bought it are lying... at least some of them are.


30 posted on 10/05/2013 5:16:00 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Russ

It is enjoyable to watch them squirm i shock, but we are all still stuck with this monster.


31 posted on 10/05/2013 5:39:21 AM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: sakic

Check my sign in name


32 posted on 10/05/2013 5:42:46 AM PDT by prov1813man (While the one you despise and ridicule works to protect you, those you embrace work to destroy you)
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To: sakic

One problem with opting for the good deal now is that down the road it may turn out to be not so good, and the result could be that by the time you (and others) find that out, healthcare as we once knew it could be greatly diminished in quality and affordability. For example, with Medicare the “good deal” included dental care if you could find somebody near you who was willing to be a provider— now it doesn’t. Either the system will fail because there’s not enough money to cover the costs, or it will begin to cut back on coverage and increase copays and deductibles. Either way, it won’t be the good deal you expect for very long. If you like what you’ve got now, stick with it. Because if it goes under because of lowered participation it won’t be there when you try to get it back.


33 posted on 10/05/2013 6:25:19 AM PDT by Toucan Dance (Uh oh)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Check this out:

http://freepatriot.org/2013/10/04/muslims-exempt-obamacare-due-dhimmitude-status/


34 posted on 10/05/2013 6:27:29 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Check this out:

http://freepatriot.org/2013/10/04/muslims-exempt-obamacare-due-dhimmitude-status/


35 posted on 10/05/2013 6:27:30 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Islander7

Oh my, Obunger is getting brutalized on his Facebook ACA page, it is glorious.


36 posted on 10/05/2013 6:37:17 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Anyone else get the impression that the majority of the article’s user comments were made by one person (under different user names)?


37 posted on 10/05/2013 7:01:38 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Prince of Space
Remember when the Dem argument against moving people from SS to personal investment accounts was that people just weren't smart enough to make their own investment fund choices?
38 posted on 10/05/2013 7:09:56 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: MortMan

For the past 2 weeks, the number on the MSM has been 48 million are uninsured.

I was wondering how that number went up 60%.

Then I remembered the illegals!!!!

There is 18 Million-—IF you believe the MSM & Obama about the correct number of illegals. I personally think the illegals they are trying to fold into the USA is much closer to 55 million persons.


39 posted on 10/05/2013 7:36:33 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Interest does not equal need

I, as I’m sure many others, went to the BOcare websites to see how bad our payments would be if we had to resort to BOcare for our health insurance.

That in no way means we NEED or WANT BOcare.


40 posted on 10/05/2013 8:04:06 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: NTHockey

I might be remembering wrong, but I thought that before the push for Obamacare, there were 12 million uninsured.


41 posted on 10/05/2013 8:12:03 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: ridesthemiles

The Obamacare law explicitly exempts illegal immigrants of all requirements and penalties. They are free to go. They can continue to use our hospitals for every sniffle at our expense. They cannot be refused.


42 posted on 10/05/2013 9:36:32 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Toucan Dance

If I liked what I have now, would I be exploring other options?


43 posted on 10/06/2013 9:41:30 PM PDT by sakic
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Yeah, well I got a pent-up demand for objective journalism.


44 posted on 10/06/2013 9:43:29 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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