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Trooper's dashcam captures dramatic moment father on a road trip shoots officer ....
The Daily Mail Online ^ | October 4, 2013 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 10/05/2013 6:11:02 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

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To: Uncle Chip

So, what was the reason for all of that?


61 posted on 10/05/2013 7:06:24 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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62 posted on 10/05/2013 7:07:39 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: PAR35

Too old to be an “aspiring rapper.” Was he a “failed rapper”?


63 posted on 10/05/2013 7:07:56 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement ("World Peace 1.20.09.")
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To: I still care

>>You can see it on DU, between rants on how evil everything conservative is, they are complaining how in the past few years they can’t find jobs, find their healthcare is ruined, and everything is just getting worse.

Exactly. Right now, the LIVs are so disconnected from reality that they think all their woes are caused by some random white middle class guy who has a job. I used to carry occasionally, but this new insanity on the left is causing me to carry always. You just never know when some black is going to go off on the leftist version of Sudden Jihad Syndrome.


64 posted on 10/05/2013 7:08:19 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: I still care

It was saying he was living in Pittsburgh (article said he was going back to S.C. though?) and one group he apparently was part of (on FB) was “Stop The Violence Pittsburgh”. Yes,
just commit it vs. a cop in Oregon instead...


65 posted on 10/05/2013 7:10:50 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio
Again note he’s bent over for a moment as if he’s just been SHOT.

Looks like he fiddled with his gun after that. Wonder if he accidentally released his mag and had to retrieve it.

66 posted on 10/05/2013 7:20:19 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: Hardraade

Looks like a SAW to me.


67 posted on 10/05/2013 7:21:42 AM PDT by lwd
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To: BushCountry
Speed limits are lower in Oregon than most of the west. Not sure but it probably would be 65 on rural sections of 84, and 55 within the urban growth boundary of any city in populated counties (over 100,000 i.e. near Portland).

Those 55 zones are for the money, bought by lobbyists for the cities and counties immediately after the demise of the federal 55 MPH directive. That's in the legislative history.

68 posted on 10/05/2013 7:23:48 AM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (R.I P. my old FRiend and neighbor Blackie Owens. Be ever vigilant!)
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To: BushCountry
"He was caught traveling at 76 mph in a construction zone before he was pulled over."

I'm guessing the cop had good reason to stop him.

69 posted on 10/05/2013 7:24:35 AM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it)
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To: Safrguns

“That cop did NOT hit the guy....look at the video... if the perp had got hit in the chest, he would NOT have been moving around like that.”

You sir, obviously have no self-defense, firearms, or medical training whatsoever. I am not attempting to be rude or condescending with such a statement, I am merely attempting to make an obvious factual statement.

The primary cause of death in cases of GSW (gunshot wound) is exsanguination - that is, blood loss. That can take several minutes to kill someone, and several minutes is a long-damned time when someone is pointing a gun at you and refusing to bleed out faster.

Even a hypothetical perfect shot in the “ten ring” that, again hypothetically due to ideal body positioning, perforates both lungs and damages some of the major blood vessels around the heart, such as the venae cavae, it may be several minutes before the person finally expires.

Fatal wounds do not mean instantly fatal nor instantly incapacitating.

As a mental exercise, hold your breath. While holding your breath, point your index finger at an object and start counting off seconds. If you had a gun in your hands, pointed at someone, and you lost the use of your lungs, how many seconds could you continue to pull the trigger? You may be a dead man standing, but you can still stand, and walk, and kill if you so choose. Likewise, your brain has enough blood in it to allow you to continue functioning for several seconds if all blood flow to it were cut off, plenty of time to squeeze off a couple of shots.

The reality is that you, or anyone else, can sustain fatal wounds and in many cases continue to function for several minutes. This is to be expected. This is not abnormal, it is normal. Any expectation contrary to this will leave you surprised and ineffective in a self-defense situation.


70 posted on 10/05/2013 7:26:19 AM PDT by jameslalor
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So, not every guy get to tote the SAW around, if I’ve understood the system. So this is someone with decent weapons and combat training.

Very weird. Like someone said over, drugs?


71 posted on 10/05/2013 7:28:17 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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The state of Oregon still posts 55 MPH as the speed limit on many highways and interstates. So it’s very possible he was going at least 21 MPH over the limit.


72 posted on 10/05/2013 7:31:47 AM PDT by CityCenter (The solution to all problems is spiritual.)
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To: Safrguns

And yet that’s what happened


73 posted on 10/05/2013 7:33:32 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Hardraade

-——So this is someone with decent weapons and combat training——

Perhaps not. He didn’t learn that dancing while shooting makes for poor marksmanship


74 posted on 10/05/2013 7:33:50 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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As to being shot and continuing to fight, ask any Mid-east vet who fought Islamists as to how many rounds it took to take down one fighter. Light rounds (9mm, 5.56, etc) are notorious for not having stopping power.

I have a 9 mm but use rounds designed to stop, not go through, for self-defense. A .357 and larger has far more stopping power. My AR is not a 5.56 even though the ammo’s cheaper because of the same thing.


75 posted on 10/05/2013 7:41:11 AM PDT by rstrahan
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That’s wh I carry a 40 or 45.


76 posted on 10/05/2013 7:42:36 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: raccoonradio

Is 1:11 where he gets shot—and again if so why doesn’t he appear to be in agony? Again note he’s bent over for a moment as if he’s just been SHOT
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As any combat vet can tell you (myself included) I have been shot twice and pain is not the first indicator. Instead it is intense pressure from the area from the velocity of the projectile. The body reacts instantly shutting down nerve endings in the area resulting in a numb feeling in the actual wound area. I was hit in the chest which went into the lung collapsing it and all I felt was pressure and numbness. 8 hours later dragged off the field in a poncho, dumped into the back of an APC then onto the floor of a huey troop transport under fire which of course caused being loaded a hurried lift and dump, even with all the jostling no pain. It was at the field hospital when they lifted my arm that I had covering my chest did the pain hit and I passed out. The bodys defense mechanisms from trauma are remarkable.


77 posted on 10/05/2013 7:51:09 AM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: Bryanw92
You just never know when some black is going to go off on the leftist version of Sudden Jihad Syndrome.

This has been going on for a while. It's just that the press doesn't identify onesy, twosy type incidents for what they are. Not to mention black perps are eminently practical. Anyone they kill will presumably not be needing their possessions. So it's not a lynching - it's a robbery.

78 posted on 10/05/2013 8:14:02 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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Looks like he fiddled with his gun after that. Wonder if he accidentally released his mag and had to retrieve it.

That is exactly what happened. You can see he bends down to pick up the mag; reinserts it into the bottom of the pistol (which at this time would not have a round in the chamber) and then retreats to his car. He even fiddles with the pistol as he retreats. He was either trying to rack the slide or the mag was empty or both and the slide locked open on the empty mag.

79 posted on 10/05/2013 8:19:17 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew Obfuscation)
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To: cliniclinical; Safrguns; Joe Brower; Travis McGee; ATLDiver; Hoodat; Pan_Yan; Vigilantcitizen

Great post, and Safrguns, make sure you take a look at it.

There is a reason rifles are much preferred to pistols when the going gets rough, and this video illustrates “why?” extraordinarily well.


80 posted on 10/05/2013 8:19:58 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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