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Obamacare's winners and losers in Bay Area
Contra Costa Times (CA) ^ | October 5, 2013 | By Tracy Seipel

Posted on 10/06/2013 6:57:51 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: Beagle8U
the cost of owebamacare insuring about 30 million leeches ‘free’ is so massive that ‘the rich’ had to be scaled down to include lower middle class

Bingo. That's it in one sentence.

41 posted on 10/06/2013 8:25:13 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: All

Most people making a modest 30k+ per year are paying 50% of their earnings to the US Government in one way or another.

Sales Tax, Income Tax, Cell Phone Tax, Taxes on most utilities, higher Health Care costs, and on and on and on...

California has a $500.00 fine for running a Red Light.

Most of these infractions are due to the cars rear wheels not completely passing thru an intersection.
It’s just another way to part you from your money.

Yet we are still broke as a country, and not just financially.


42 posted on 10/06/2013 8:28:15 AM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield (Ask the MSM about Christopher Newsom and Channon Christian. Observe the subsequent blank stares.)
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To: darkwing104

“”I’m not against Obamacare,” Waschura said. “It’s just the initial shock. I’m holding out hope that there will be a correction over a handful of years.””

Sorry pal, it has only one way to go, UP! That will be the direction of all future “corrections.” It’s just too bad there won’t be another “correction” before the 2014 elections, but since they are in November, I guess the “new rates” for 2015 will be out by then unless FUBO tells the HC Insurance co’s, to save their “new numbers” until after the election.


43 posted on 10/06/2013 8:51:39 AM PDT by vette6387 (i)
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To: cloudmountain

Hey, didn’t you read? They’re independents. Independents who are proud that they helped elect and re-elect Obama. Yeah, independents like Bernie Sanders is an independent.


44 posted on 10/06/2013 8:54:49 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Obama is an historic President. He's America's first 'Dear Leader' President.)
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To: Beagle8U

“The useful idiots that voted for O’bastard and are quick to cheer any law that will screw the rich are finding out what it’s like to be on the recieving end of that screwing.”

Good


45 posted on 10/06/2013 8:58:25 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Miserable bastards.. too dumb to vote.. california edukational system byproducts.


46 posted on 10/06/2013 9:44:36 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Sir Napsalot

First the sticker shock. Then comes anger. Now we see the trickle of complaints, soon it’s going to be an avalanche.

Obama may be aware public anger can turn on a dime, he is hoping, with his lying cabal accomplice, he can direct the public irk.

He is ‘in charge’. People always blame the top guy and the party holds power.


47 posted on 10/06/2013 9:58:14 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Carry_Okie

Free Health care, anyone? BWAHAHAHA


48 posted on 10/06/2013 11:15:51 AM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Obama&Admin=An army of deer, led by a lion is more to be feared than an army of lions led by a deer)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

“I really don’t like the Republican tactics, but at least now I can understand why they are so pissed about this. When you take $10,000 out of my family’s pocket each year, that’s otherwise disposable income or retirement savings that will not be going into our local economy.”

And there you go.”””

These costs are just for the first year....all indications are that the costs will go up expotentially in the immediate future.

Keep in mind that the all powerful Obama Federal government cannot even keep their websites running properly for a bill they demanded-—while a man in his pajamas in Fresno can keep Free Republic running for quite a number of years.

Obama & his minions had complete control over Obamacare from the beginning & he still cannot tell you how much you should be paying.

How long before you cannot pay your mortgage or your rent???

How about your car payment? Your cable bill?? Your wine tasting trip to Napa??? Your San Fran symphony tickets?? Your Giants tickets? Your 49’er tickets?? Your BART monthly pass? Your E-Z pass to cross the bridges in San Fran???

Not all of us who preached AGAINST Obama were stupid ......but alot of you voters were.

As for the Bay area-—you keep electing Democrats all over the state & Federal map of politicians. They are choking the life out of California. How long will you even have a job there??

Now you are in their cross hairs. See how you like it.


49 posted on 10/06/2013 12:39:11 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Jabba the Nutt

They are independent - their actions are independent from any intelligence.


50 posted on 10/06/2013 3:37:07 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"Cindy Vinson and Tom Waschura are big believers in the Affordable Care Act. They vote independent and are proud to say they helped elect and re-elect President Barack Obama."

I'm sorry, but you can call yourself an independent, and naive, and not do your research, or get caught up in the moment, and vote for Obama the first time. But you cannot call yourself an independent and vote to reelect Obama. You are in denial. You are not just a liberal, you are a radical leftist and you are afraid to admit it.

51 posted on 10/07/2013 5:16:43 AM PDT by magellan
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"Of course, I want people to have health care. I just didn't realize I would be the one who was going to pay for it personally."

Three words: Low information voter.

Seriously, someone must have beaten this woman with a stupid stick. And to think she taught children. Of course, she is now 60, and has been retired for a while. Must be nice.

Bay Area public elementary school teachers average over $85,000 per year. Bay Area public high school teachers average over $100,000 per year. Older, more experienced teachers no doubt make more.

I ran the CalSTRS retirement benefits calculator with a rough estimate of someone retiring at age 55 after 33 years in the system, with $100,000 as the final pay. It shows a lifetime pension benefit of about $60,000 per year.

And it is not like she can't earn some additional money to cover her increased expenses. A retired teacher could easily work part time as a tutor for additional money--assuming she was a good teacher that people on the private market would want to hire.

52 posted on 10/07/2013 5:41:59 AM PDT by magellan
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To: ridesthemiles
How long before you cannot pay your mortgage or your rent???

You bring up an interesting point here. Will it be government shrugging it shoulders saying to bad, pay the penalty or will it just mean MORE government? This whole thing is designed from the ground up to kill America. There is no other way to look at it. This isn't "feel good" legislation to help the needy and poor, this is about laying waste to all of us and a complete take over of the United States. Imagine for a moment if obamacare isn't squashed what this country is going to look like in 10 years.

53 posted on 10/08/2013 9:21:07 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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