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Tulsa County Republicans encouraged to evade Obamacare law
tulsaworld.com ^ | October 9, 2013 | ZIVA BRANSTETTER

Posted on 10/10/2013 5:00:56 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

Panelists at a Tulsa County GOP event Wednesday discussed ways Oklahoma and its citizens can resist the Affordable Care Act’s requirements, including the possibility of passing a “nullification law” and refusing to pay fines for failure to carry insurance.

One panelist at the event called President Barack Obama’s administration an “oligarchy” and “an undercover dictatorship.” Another panelist claimed that the federal health-care law allows federal officials to inspect the homes of people who home school their children and to share citizens’ medical records.

State Rep. Michael Ritze, R-Broken Arrow, said a bill allowing the state to nullify the federal law could be revived in the next legislative session.

“Nullification is a proper way that our founders gave us to look at it. … We got it through the House to completely nullify the whole law. We’ll bring it back.”

Ritze, a physician, joined three other panelists Wednesday during a luncheon sponsored by the Tulsa County Republican Men’s Club. He said the federal law “can be turned around completely” by executive order.

The Affordable Care Act was signed by Obama three years ago and has been upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court. It requires Americans to have medical insurance or pay a fine unless they fall into an excluded category.

Enrollment in insurance plans offered under the law began last week. People who have health insurance through their employers or government programs such as Medicare do not need to take any action because they already have insurance.

Joining Ritze on the panel were Jonathan Small, fiscal policy director for the Oklahoma Council of Public Affairs; Amanda Teegarden, executive director of OK-SAFE; and Toby Pedford, executive director of Oklahoma’s Campaign for Liberty.

Small said his organization is focused on making people aware of the costs if Oklahoma were to expand its Medicaid program.

Gov. Mary Fallin rejected an expansion of the Medicaid program that accompanied the federal health-care law. While there has been no indication that Fallin would change her mind, the group on Wednesday urged citizens to call her office and state lawmakers to say they oppose the Medicaid expansion.

A state-commissioned study known as the Leavitt report found that the direct cost to Oklahoma to expand Medicaid would be about $850 million. However, when savings and economic impact from the expansion are included, the net impact is a savings of $464 million, the report concluded.

Small, a certified public accountant who once worked for the Oklahoma Insurance Department, contends that the report is not correct.

“Government is notorious with missing the mark on estimates of entitlement programs,” he said.

Small said the Internal Revenue Service is prohibited from using liens and garnishments to force people to pay a fine if they don’t have health insurance.

“The IRS doesn’t even have a mechanism to enforce it,” he said. “So I encourage you to get a responsible tax preparer and have them help you determine your withholdings. That way you never have a refund at the end of the year, and you won’t ever have to worry about paying the penalty.”

Pedford, a former board member of the Oklahoma City Tea Party, said the Affordable Care Act gives the federal government “control over almost who lives and who dies.”

“What has really been formed is an undercover dictatorship,” said Pedford, who runs a company that provides financial and insurance advice to clients.

“I really shouldn’t say the administration — I should say the oligarchy is really what we’re dealing with,” Pedford said. “What I feel like I want to contribute to the panel today is … what are the things that people are able to do to fight back and also stay out of jail.”

Teegarden compared the law to past examples of the government’s use of technology to gather and consolidate citizens’ private information. Recent efforts to expand telemedicine and Internet access in rural areas are included in this effort, she said.

“That is why we were adamantly opposed to the state establishing the (health-insurance) exchange in the state of Oklahoma,” Teegarden said.

Fallin initially accepted and then rejected a $54 million grant to create a health-insurance exchange in Oklahoma as called for by the Affordable Care Act. An exchange is a website where consumers can compare insurance plans.

As far as resisting the law’s requirements, Teegarden said: “There are things that we can still do. It’s not wonderful. There are other things that you can do that I will talk to you about later when the camera’s not rolling.”

Ritze said the law revives data-gathering that he and others fought to prevent in the past. He said the law will mean “your medical records are not private anymore so some lady in Brazil can look at your medical records and steal your identity.”

“They are going to put in a computer chip in all of your bank records, your health records, security records. … We outlawed that. That’s back in the law. So they can come to you and ask you anything they want and get away with it.”

The federal agency that operates the program, the U.S. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, states on its website that it will safeguard information provided by citizens and comply with the 1974 U.S. Privacy Act.


TOPICS: US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: teaparty

1 posted on 10/10/2013 5:00:56 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

AS my Federal taxation professor said
“Tax evasion is illegal, tax avoidance is not”


2 posted on 10/10/2013 5:07:26 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

According to this Forbes.com article you are exempt if you don’t file.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/08/28/white-house-publishes-final-regulations-for-obamacares-individual-mandate-seven-things-you-need-to-know/

5. Many older individuals will be exempt from the mandate

If you need to buy insurance on your own, you’re exempt from the individual mandate if the cost of your coverage is more than 8 percent of your household income. (The percentage is adjusted, over time, using a somewhat complex formula.) This means many older people—who pay higher premiums than younger people—will be exempt from the mandate altogether.

6. If you don’t file a tax return, you’re exempt

You’re also exempt if your income is below the poverty line, or if you don’t file an IRS tax return. Indeed, if you add up all of these exemptions, MIT economist and Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber estimates that 40 percent of people who are uninsured are exempt from the individual mandate.

7. ‘Members of recognized religious sects’ and American Indians are also exempt

If you’re a member of a “federally-recognized Indian tribe,” congratulations! You’re also exempt from the individual mandate. This is in part because the Indian Health Service offers government-run health care to members of such tribes. Members of a “recognized religious sect or division,” as specified in Section 1402(g)(1) of the Internal Revenue Code, are also exempt. So, you might be asking yourself: which “religious sects” are exempt?

The Internal Revenue Code exempts an individual from certain taxes if he is “a member of a recognized religious sect or division thereof and is an adherent of established tenets or teachings of such sect or division by reason of which he is conscientiously opposed to acceptance of the benefits of any private or public insurance which makes payments in the event of death, disability, old-age, or retirement or makes payments toward the cost of, or provides services for, medical care,” including Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.

Your “sect” has to have been in continuous existence since December 31, 1950, and the Commissioner of Social Security must agree that your sect “has the established tenets or teachings” consistent with opposition to medical benefits. While there are some on the Internet who believe that this religious exemption applies to Islam, it doesn’t appear that way to me, as Muslims are not exempt from Social Security. Instead, the exemption is meant for groups like the Amish.

So if you really hate the individual mandate, you don’t have to burn your Obamacare card—just join the Amish or an Indian tribe!


3 posted on 10/10/2013 5:22:35 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
One panelist at the event called President Barack Obama’s administration an “oligarchy” and “an undercover dictatorship.” Another panelist claimed that the federal health-care law allows federal officials to inspect the homes of people who home school their children and to share citizens’ medical records.

The Affordable Care Act was signed by Obama three years ago and has been upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court. It requires Americans to have medical insurance or pay a fine unless they fall into an excluded category.

I think that this law was taken to the Supreme Court too soon.

It seems like every week I read of some new requirement in this law that is blatantly unconstitutional.

Right there is two violations of the Forth Amendment.

4 posted on 10/10/2013 5:24:42 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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