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Anxiety as stimulus hike in food stamps set to end
Associated Press ^ | Oct 10, 2013 6:21 AM (ET) | RIK STEVENS

Posted on 10/10/2013 8:07:14 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW

CONCORD, N.H. (AP) - A temporary increase in food stamps expires Oct. 31, meaning for millions of Americans, the benefits that help put food on the table won't stretch as far as they have for the past four years.

Food stamps - actually the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program - go to 47 million Americans a month, almost half of them children and teenagers.

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To: blueunicorn6

Unemployment claims will be way up with furlough workers.


51 posted on 10/10/2013 8:48:21 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Biggirl

the gov is killing all the jobs and opportunity but you can still create your own job, your own business is my point.


52 posted on 10/10/2013 8:50:42 AM PDT by rurgan (give laws an expiration date:so the congress has to review every 4 years to see if needed)
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To: dhs12345
Unfortunately, there are many people scamming the system and there is little interest from the bureaucrats running these programs to screen for the cheaters.

Welfare was never about helping people. It's about enslaving them to get their vote.

Madison was very clear on government "charity":

Annals of Congress, House of Representatives, 3rd Congress, 1st Session, page 170 (1794-01-10)
The Annals summarize speeches in the third person, with the actual text of Madison’s quote as follows: “Mr. Madison wished to relieve the sufferers, but was afraid of establishing a dangerous precedent, which might hereafter be perverted to the countenance of purposes very different from those of charity. He acknowledged, for his own part, that he could not undertake to lay his finger on that article in the Federal Constitution which granted a right of Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.”

53 posted on 10/10/2013 8:52:04 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: rrrod

Thank you very much, rrrod!!


54 posted on 10/10/2013 8:53:56 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Above My Pay Grade
I don't know why I hit these type threads, they always raise my BP.

she counts on the family’s $460 monthly benefit to put food on the table

Mrs WBill and I shop very carefully. We hit the sales, clip coupons, use leftovers, and so on. Restaurant eating is cut out very nearly completely, as is pre-prepared food (think, frozen pizzas, etc etc). We did this because we needed to, on our budget.

$460/month is far more than my family spends on food. It's about the same as my monthly "household budget" - food and assorted other requirements like soap, TP, laundry detergent, etc etc etc.

If I had $460 to spend on food alone, Steak and seafood would be back on the table a lot more often. Eating out probably would be in the budget, as well.

I'm the one who's picking up the tab for this ungrateful leech, and I'm scraping to get by on less than what she's given. Color me unsympathetic.

55 posted on 10/10/2013 8:54:01 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Agreed. There’s not many cases like that but I have nothing against helping them. Except it shouldn’t be government doing it. With less taxation charities, honest ones, receive more and give to who really needs it. My church group quietly gives to several families in dire straights.


56 posted on 10/10/2013 8:54:37 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Above My Pay Grade

Incredible, isn’t it?


57 posted on 10/10/2013 8:55:06 AM PDT by FrdmLvr
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To: Vigilanteman
Why do you suppose that is?

They voted right. You didn't!

58 posted on 10/10/2013 8:56:15 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too... @Onelifetogive)
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To: ladyjane

>>>And more than half go to those who are overweight. <<<

The woman whose family photos are in the articles is clearly obese. Her daughter is overweight as well.

You can also see an iPhone on the kitchen table of their “impoverished” home.


59 posted on 10/10/2013 8:56:59 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (The people have the right to tell government what guns it may possess, not the other way around.)
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To: rrrod; onyx

Thank you very much rrrod! God Bless!


60 posted on 10/10/2013 8:57:44 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Granted she represents that 2% of people who really did need the help.

You do make a good point. However, there are many here (and I'm not naming names or pointing fingers at anyone specific, mind you) who would classify even the 2% as 'freeloaders' and 'leeches' and bring them under the same wrath and consequences as the real freeloaders and leeches.

I would hope that those who wish to punish those who are gaming the system will take that into consideration.

61 posted on 10/10/2013 9:01:55 AM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: autumnraine

Since the furloughed Fed workers have been guaranteed their back pay, would they have to pay back any unemployment?


62 posted on 10/10/2013 9:06:39 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: DJ MacWoW

Dear Food Stamp Recipient:

Watch for sales and don’t buy crap...that’s how we do it. This mess shouldn’t last too long.

Regards,
Maddie10


63 posted on 10/10/2013 9:13:29 AM PDT by madison10
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To: DJ MacWoW
Food stamps - actually the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program - go to 47 million Americans a month, almost half of them children and teenagers.

Dang!
They forgot the Womyn!

Stand back for a vaginal hissy fit!

64 posted on 10/10/2013 9:13:48 AM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: hoagy62

What I find amazing is that they actually photographed her home FILLED with stuff! The truth is...it is literally impossible to find a “real” hardship case because we have so many safety nets in the US. Especially families with kids of school age who get fed at least 2 meals a day in school. Personally I would love to go into these folks homes for a week and educate them on how to make a budget and shop in bulk at low cost. Sadly they think that they are actually thrifty


65 posted on 10/10/2013 9:20:01 AM PDT by happyhomemaker (Rejoice in hope, be patient in tribulation, be constant in prayer. Rom 12:12)
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To: Above My Pay Grade

and I understand they have stretched the qualification income to include middle class wage/salary earners.

This is supposed to be a safety net not a way of life.


66 posted on 10/10/2013 9:22:07 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Tenacious 1

Hah! A long long time ago I worked for the welfare dept here....in food stamps. On the first of the month when all the GDs (general deliveries aka homeless) would come in and get their stamps that had been returned from the post office they would be waiting for us at the back door when we got off at 5 to try and sell them to us.
Was quite hilarious.


67 posted on 10/10/2013 9:25:09 AM PDT by sheana
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To: DJ MacWoW

Good they can join the club of Americans who still have pride and buy their own food and pay the ever increasing food prices. Then maybe ( but I doubt it ) they will understand that elections have consequences.


68 posted on 10/10/2013 9:29:17 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: publius911

I REALLY don’t want to see that...


69 posted on 10/10/2013 9:30:55 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Yup.

It appears that the attitude changed in the 60s. Prior to the 60s, accepting welfare was considered bad and only an absolute necessity. Able bodied people were expected to work and there was an effort to find them work. A person who wanted to work but couldn’t find work was respected.


70 posted on 10/10/2013 9:31:56 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: publius911

Omgosh...here is the actually interview on youtube with the woman featured in the story. Just take a look at the toys and stuff in the background. Oh and she tries to say that she can’t make rounded meals without the extra money(I guess she did grow a Michelle Obama garden) Oh and the oldest girl is well on her way to obesity

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cT23W1KKZc


71 posted on 10/10/2013 9:34:03 AM PDT by happyhomemaker (Rejoice in hope, be patient in tribulation, be constant in prayer. Rom 12:12)
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To: publius911

Omgosh...here is the actually interview on youtube with the woman featured in the story. Just take a look at the toys and stuff in the background. Oh and she tries to say that she can’t make rounded meals without the extra money(I guess she did grow a Michelle Obama garden) Oh and the oldest girl is well on her way to obesity

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cT23W1KKZc


72 posted on 10/10/2013 9:35:22 AM PDT by happyhomemaker (Rejoice in hope, be patient in tribulation, be constant in prayer. Rom 12:12)
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To: DJ MacWoW

What they are going to do is raise the prices in our grocery stores- and the Grocery stores are going to give out “charity” to help the poor people.

Already happening from Food Lion in NC.

We are screwed no matter what until we get rid of these elite politicans.


73 posted on 10/10/2013 9:36:33 AM PDT by Truth2012
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To: DJ MacWoW

74 posted on 10/10/2013 9:38:22 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Above My Pay Grade

“Six ounces of meat per day isn’t a lot.”

My mother was widowed in The Great Depression with 2 kids to feed. Then came the shortages of WWII.

Six ounces of meat a day would have been absolute heaven.

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75 posted on 10/10/2013 9:41:36 AM PDT by Mears (Liberalism is the art ot being easily offended.)
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To: Sacajaweau
The raise they got in their food stamp money was part of a stimulus package. It was temporary. Guess they’ll have to give up a couple trips to the casinos....where they accept their little charge cards.

True Story.
I took a "Beginners" class on computers at the local Adult School, because I was curious what I had missed, since I never got computer training except from learning on the job, 50 years ago, when personal computers were in the realm of fantasy.
One can imagine the characters that showed up for that class...Among them was a member of a protected class. In his forties or 50's, hard to tell. The first thing I learned is that he couldn't see the computer screen, because he couldn't afford glasses. He was unemployed and his unemployment had run out. His wife volunteered at a church and was on permanent disability. He was working on also joining the "permanent disabled" class. I would guess from memory, that he missed one third of the first ten classes.

Fast forward to a couple of months later when he had been absent for the previous class and he candidly told his adventures the previous weekend.

He and his wife had gone to a casino about 100 miles away, and could "only" afford $900 for the casino trip. Mind you, in addition to not being able to afford glasses, he couldn't afford to get his computer fixed. Not surprisingly, for after more than a month of twice a week 2hrs+ classes, he still needed help to log on to the computer.

To conclude his story, stranded with no gas money to get home, they had to call a friend to wire them some money so they could get home. Oh, incidentally, he also couldn't afford to properly maintain his car.

Sic Transit Gloria Americani...

I could also relate my exciting adventures with the other protected class (I am fluent in both Spanish and French) during the same period, but that's a tale for another thread...

76 posted on 10/10/2013 9:56:52 AM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: Tenacious 1
So now our poor here in America will starve. I haven’t seen too many famished poor people in America unless it is at the hand of delinquent parents.

In my experience, locally, 100% of the obviously "disabled" protected classes (they use a cane as "validation" ) are 100% overweight... or use a government supplied electric cart, while talking on their Obamaphone.

77 posted on 10/10/2013 10:02:55 AM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
oh, the inhumanity of it all. requiring someone to be RESPONSIBLE for their own food. Obama hates poor people.
78 posted on 10/10/2013 10:06:10 AM PDT by cashless (Obama told us he would side with Muslims if the political winds shifted in an ugly direction. Ready?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

My dad used to drive her to that church’s food pantry, and he always remarked about how efficiently it was run. Far better than any Fed program I’m sure.


79 posted on 10/10/2013 10:10:27 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: onyx
The reason we always hear about Social Security running out of money, but never welfare is because...

D'OH!!

the DC criminals made the new welfare (in addition to the hundreds of existing welfare programs) and lifetime "disability," part of Social Security, where it could be hidden where nobody would notice.

Making it a separate, new, identifiable welfare scam just would have never worked.

Predictably, those new "programs" account for substantially over half of all ongoing SS expenditures.

And growing.

80 posted on 10/10/2013 10:10:56 AM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

My church is a “home” church. We have no building so we have no expenses. All that money that would have supported needless things is given to help others.


81 posted on 10/10/2013 10:14:45 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Above My Pay Grade
Food stamps are not supposed to provide for all of your dietary needs the “S” in SNAP stands for “supplementary”. I guess it is too much to ask these bums to provide for even a small portion of their own needs.

Do you really expect them to know what "supplementary" means?

Wait.
The Congressional Black Caucus doesn't either.
...never mind...

82 posted on 10/10/2013 10:15:31 AM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: Vigilanteman
Why do you suppose that is?

Because we have allowed it to grow for too long.
They are simply the symptom, not the problem!

We allowed it; it's up to us net-taxpaying non-government workers to fix it!

83 posted on 10/10/2013 10:21:36 AM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: dhs12345
They lose all work skills and all hope and become complete dependents.

Fatal assumption #34,218.
Assuming that they ever had the skills to begin with!

84 posted on 10/10/2013 10:25:26 AM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: blueunicorn6

Not sure but remember that they haven’t been promised it was just a bill passed in the house. also not all federal workers qualify for back pay.


85 posted on 10/10/2013 10:27:23 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

My BLIND Aunt went on the Dole for six months back in the late 40’s when she lost her JOB.

Our Family didn’t have a Pot to piss in or a Window to throw it through. My Parents and my older Brother lived in two rooms in a Brownstone Basement. No heat, no running hot water and Rats the size of a Viking Kitty.

My Mother MADE my Father forcibly take my Aunt to the Welfare Office because my Aunt, who was living in what my Father described as squalor, refused to go on the Dole.
It was embarrassing.

My Aunt sewed Garments in what would nowadays be considered a Sweat Shop in Brooklyn. She got up every day, got dressed, took the Bus and worked all day to pay her way.

Again, this was a BLIND Woman who contracted Glaucoma in her teens when there was no treatment outside of removing your eyeballs to ease the pain.

She passed away less than two months ago at the age of 89.
The first time she heard Obama on the radio she told me he was a Phony.

She was a wise Woman and as feisty as they come...


86 posted on 10/10/2013 10:30:48 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Due to the Federal Government Shutdown, the Tagline is closed.)
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To: hoagy62
You do make a good point. However, there are many here (and I'm not naming names or pointing fingers at anyone specific, mind you) who would classify even the 2% as 'freeloaders' and 'leeches' and bring them under the same wrath and consequences as the real freeloaders and leeches.

I totally disagree.
After 14 years on FR, I have yet to encounter a single one that comes to mind.

Obama trolls don't count.
We have to honestly admire the Obama/Soros' machine's strategic planning.
Most of our veteran active trolls have sign-up dates of 2005, 2006 and 2007. Most surviving members are really good at it.

87 posted on 10/10/2013 10:42:54 AM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: Kickass Conservative
Wow! She sounds like a wonderful person!

My M-i-L contracted polio at 3 (born in 1913). Her parents were told she'd never walk again. No one told her. She got a college education, married, had 3 children and taught school. Her right arm was withered and her left leg barely held her weight. She never received a handout in her life but gave everything she could spare to charities and her church.

88 posted on 10/10/2013 10:46:10 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: publius911
I disagree.

Working even menial jobs develop skills and those skills and abilities build on previous skills. It is called promotion. Plus a person develops a work ethic and most important self respect.

And another benefit: if the job is unpleasant or undesirable, that can be motivation to do better such as learn a trade or get an education.

All of this is lost if a person gets stuck in the welfare system.

89 posted on 10/10/2013 10:52:46 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Wow, now that is a horrible story.


90 posted on 10/10/2013 10:53:32 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: dhs12345
All of this is lost if a person gets stuck in the welfare system.

If a person is "stuck" in the welfare system from birth, none of what you say makes any sense.
Can't lose what you never had.

91 posted on 10/10/2013 10:55:54 AM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: dhs12345
I remember being a wee one on the 1970s and times for my family being tough (as it was for many then). I remember my mom, who was a housewife, going to work at a local bakery for a time. I would stay home with my brother and sister who were 10 and 12 years older than I was.

One time, there wasn't much food in the house and my siblings wanted to make brownies. They discovered they needed an egg and we did not have one. They went over, knocked on the neighbors door and asked to borrow an egg.

Well, my father, a staunch, proud German immigrant got wind of it. Holy crap! His head just about exploded. I remember the lecture to this day, "You don't take charity from people, you don't ask people for things, etc. etc."

This was the prevalent mindset back then. I am thankful I have it. I will pass it to my kids. Pride.

92 posted on 10/10/2013 11:01:36 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: onyx

What's interesting, the first group worked for their children's and grandchildren's money.

There, fixed it!

93 posted on 10/10/2013 11:27:20 AM PDT by aLurker
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While the idea of eating mostly veg seems to freak out a lot of FReepers, I just got a book on being vegan for $4 a day - written to combat the idea that eating healthy is expensive. It turns out that is just a bit lower than my usual budget for 2 adults, so, it can be done.

If people would buy unprocessed food, get fruits in season instead of boxed snacks, make their own ice cream and shakes from frozen fruit, and learn to love beans, rice, potatoes, and green veg, they wouldn’t have a problem with the new budget. If they had to have meat, by eating unprocessed food in the rest of the diet, they would have enough to add in some chicken or stew beef.

I’m not going to say that everyone on food stamps is lazy or a welfare queen. The disabled get them, the elderly get them, they are a boon to the unemployed who are trying to stay afloat while they look for work. But, they will never seem like enough if you buy mostly processed food.


94 posted on 10/10/2013 11:58:12 AM PDT by radiohead
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To: riri

Yup. Me too. My grandfather was German/Swedish. He was the person who influenced me the most. He had a strong work ethic and he was a staunch Union man too. He grew up in a time when workers were treated very poorly. Just proves that nothing is always black and white. :)


95 posted on 10/10/2013 12:17:30 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: DJ MacWoW

Someone fax me a crying towel. The government has never bought me a meal, other than my rations in the armed forces, so why do FORTY SEVEN MILLION individuals (most of which, I guarantee you, have never served) get free food every month like clockwork? Buehler? Buehler?


96 posted on 10/13/2013 12:26:21 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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