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Young People Still Not Signing Up For ObamaCare (freeloaders don't enjoy pitching in)
Townhall ^ | 10/11/13 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 10/12/2013 11:52:16 AM PDT by Libloather

Guy already delivered the pathetic news of only 51,000 people signing up for Obamacare so far, but to make things worse, young people are still dodging the exchanges like the plague. Cathy Reisenwitz explains why in Forbes:

Experts say that young, healthy people must enroll in ObamaCare’s health exchanges to cover the cost of insuring sicker, older people. It’s a simple math equation: Charge everyone roughly the same rate for access to basically the same product. The people who use it less will subsidize the people who use it more.

The problem with this plan is that it hoses young, relatively poor people like me right when we least need high bills for services they’re not using. And it helps older, relatively rich people who should be able to afford the care they need. If America’s downtrodden and struggling young people are smart, they’ll opt out. Then it’ll be up to the federal government to fine them enough to make up for the shortfall.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; fail; obamacare; people; young; zerocare
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To: Libloather

I wonder how many would sign up for Social Security if it was optional?


41 posted on 10/12/2013 2:39:50 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: kearnyirish2
“In all fairness, “freeloading” is the only profession available to most young people today.” One problem this will run into is that while young people apparently are willing to concede families and homes due to economics, they’re not going to give up new cars and tattoos. There is little incentive for young people (fortunate enough to have jobs) to give away more of their income to this “tax”, and the Dems risk a lot by forcing the issue. They are a self-centered generation (hence foregoing a next generation), but if it becomes too obvious that someone else has their hands in their paychecks their general apathy will quickly disappear.

That's it in a nutshell. And you know what else? Pissing off their childish lib base would be bad enough but the rest of us will become the Democrat's worst nightmare. I'm 28 with no family and generally nothing in my life. The only thing I have going for me is a gradual increase in salary and the prospect of maybe meeting a woman in grad school. If the Democrats take away my hard earned money and destroy any prospect of me raising a family one day...well...then there will be only one thing left to live for. You can probably fill in that blank because I can't type it online.
42 posted on 10/12/2013 2:42:30 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: Wanderer99

Calm down. You have an education and long life in front of you.

To say you have “nothing” is a slap in the face to folks that have nothing. Step up, Be yourself, and thank God everyday that Sun comes up from the east!

Bored! Get a Kayak and hit the river.


43 posted on 10/12/2013 2:48:41 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: Beagle8U

OK, explain why a farmer would allow a person dressed like a gang-banger on his land ??


44 posted on 10/12/2013 3:18:32 PM PDT by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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To: Libloather
Obamacare was never intended to be permanent. At some point it the left will “admit” it's not the best solution and at that time they will tell us that the best solution is nationalized health care, like Britain's NHS. The left’s ultimate goal has always been nationalized health care...Obamacare is just the foot in the door.
45 posted on 10/12/2013 3:29:07 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: fireman15
Next time you pay cash for a hospital visit, look closer at the bill. They give a ‘uninsured’ discount. This discount is to offset some(not all!) of the mark-up they add so insurance companies will reimburse a reasonable amount. Surgery doesn't cost 100k. But when the insurance companies only reimburse 30% the billed amount, they have to jack up the prices to compensate.
46 posted on 10/12/2013 3:32:25 PM PDT by ScobbyDoobyDoo
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To: eyedigress

I base my self worth on that stuff. Is that a sane thing to do? Probably not but it is how it is. If the enemy takes the future away then I’ll become exceedingly unpleasant.


47 posted on 10/12/2013 3:41:36 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: AlaskaErik
Obamacare was never intended to be permanent. At some point it the left will “admit” it's not the best solution and at that time they will tell us that the best solution is nationalized health care, like Britain's NHS. The left’s ultimate goal has always been nationalized health care...Obamacare is just the foot in the door. Posting HTML

I was watching this documentary about a man in Britain born with Dystrophic Epidermolysis Bullosa. This is a condition where the skin doesn't remain intact and falls off most parts of the body. The part that really shocked me was the poor quality of the bandages. They were using gauze bandages to save money and every time his mother pulled it off (nationalized healthcare usually won't send anyone to your house) it would take nearly all of his skin off. So this young man was in excruciating agony nonstop all day long all so that some lazy idiot Brits could get "free healthcare".

The second most shocking part was how utterly unaware the family was about how poor his treatment and medical guidance was. His life could have been infinitely better if they just had better bandages.

I believe that the next step in European idiocy will be the denial of basic anesthesia for any and all surgeries, including pediatrics. Maybe that is already happening. Denmark is already euthanizing children and young people with treatable diseases.
48 posted on 10/12/2013 3:50:07 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: Wanderer99

I hear you; I hope you do meet someone and have the means to have a family if that is the path you choose. I’m married for nearly twenty years with kids, about fifteen years older than you; many friends and family are in your position but slightly older than you. It is tough raising a family and money is tight; I sometimes wonder if I should have waited longer but I was afraid at the time that it would never be “the right time”. I don’t think marriage and children are for everybody; it is a huge (and permanent) change. I personally couldn’t imagine life differently at this point; I never had much coming from a large family so doing without isn’t as difficult for me as it might be for someone from a more comfortable youth. When I first married we lived for a couple of years in a tiny basement apartment saving money to start a family and buy a home; that apartment seemed luxurious in comparison to living in a single family house with parents and a number of siblings.

Having the mortgage and children reduces my income tax (being replaced with a property tax instead); I couldn’t imagine how high my income taxes would be without either of those deductions. Many young people get their first slap of reality with their first pay stub; they won’t be happy to see that reduced further. One of the problems I see in this economy is that people have to either work harder to have discretionary income for them to enjoy on non-essentials or they can sit back, breed irresponsibly, and still get a comfortable living out of it.


49 posted on 10/12/2013 4:07:39 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Libloather.
50 posted on 10/12/2013 4:52:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: kearnyirish2

I’m also seeing people in their late twenties move back in with their parents in a desperate attempt to save money. This does save money in the end but the psychological impact of this lifestyle can cause issues in the workplace. Employers and employees can sense when something is not quite right about a person. It is also likely to drive off future mates when the person breaks the news. So many people choose to scrape by and barely save 100 bucks a month while working two jobs.


51 posted on 10/12/2013 5:32:17 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: ozzymandus

When I first bought health insurance after leaving college in the mid-70’s, my premiums were $35/mo. Now they’re over $600.

What is inflation??!!!?!?
http://www.investopedia.com/video/play/what-is-inflation/

You’re welcome :-)


52 posted on 10/12/2013 5:46:34 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Libloather

“Old equals rich. Oh, please let it be so.”

I spit my snifter of Benedictine all over my screen. Darn! That comment is funny, Libloather.


53 posted on 10/12/2013 7:07:55 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: HarleyD

I don’t understand the basic economics and politics of Obamacare. The Dems think they can energize their base to sign up for this using their paid political operatives... I mean ‘Navigators’? When it costs money to sign up? They don’t understand their base. They want free stuff. They aren’t going to open their wallets for this crap. This will be an epic failure.

And they think they can force it to a single payer system after it fails? I don’t think so. It will still cost people money and they will be too pissed.


54 posted on 10/12/2013 9:35:39 PM PDT by Sodbuster
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To: Salgak; Beagle8U

Lol..you are still allowed to burn fire wood in California, and there are plenty of people buying and selling it here also.


55 posted on 10/13/2013 4:54:53 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Salgak

“OK, explain why a farmer would allow a person dressed like a gang-banger on his land ??”

Target practice? Who knows. Do you dress like a gang-banger, or do you just write stupid crap when you have no argument to refute common sense?


56 posted on 10/13/2013 6:07:30 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: thoughtomator 2.0

You make lots of excuses for lazy and stupid, and that is exactly what is keeping your millions of poor deprived yutes from getting off their ass and going to work!


57 posted on 10/13/2013 6:12:13 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Libloather
Obama and his goons sticking it to young people ... great strategy...
58 posted on 10/13/2013 8:28:10 AM PDT by GOPJ (Brieitbart sent me... Freeper newfreep)
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To: Beagle8U

Your attitude is incredibly callous, cruel, and most importantly ignorant. You lived your life on the upside of the biggest credit bubble in history - paid for on the credit of those you are slamming now for being lazy and stupid.

You need a visit to church or your personal equivalent thereof to get a refresher course on humility. But for the Grace of God, you would be one of these young people whose lives you apparently attach zero value to.


59 posted on 10/13/2013 9:08:37 AM PDT by thoughtomator 2.0
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To: Wanderer99

“I’m also seeing people in their late twenties move back in with their parents in a desperate attempt to save money.”

If people don’t intend to start families there is little incentive to move out; if I wasn’t married I’d probably still live at home. Why not?

Amnesty is being pushed because whites’ decisions to forego children are causing a permanent slump in the housing market and school children; the public education industry won’t stand for it.

“It is also likely to drive off future mates when the person breaks the news.”

From what I see in my narrow little world (and all over the internet) many young males have no interest in marriage; why would they get married if they don’t intend to have children? I know young people who cohabitate, and children aren’t in their plans. They may want “mates” for sexual relations, but they don’t want to “mate”.


60 posted on 10/13/2013 4:51:18 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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