Skip to comments.House GOP furious with Senate
Posted on 10/13/2013 8:14:53 AM PDT by Innovative
House Republicans were furious with Senate Republicans and President Obama on Saturday for trying to cut a debt ceiling deal that leaves them out in the cold.
Members emerged from a conference meeting saying Obama had double-crossed them by breaking off talks in order to shop for a better deal from the Senate GOP.
Clearly the president can't be trusted, said Rep. Aaron Schock (R-Ill.). It is up to Senate Republicans to grow a backbone and stand with House Republicans like they said they were going to do.
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“...Clearly the president can’t be trusted, said Rep. Aaron Schock (R-Ill.)...”
Gee, we knew this six years ago....this is news???
Of course, while the House Republicans didn’t like Susan Collins’ Senate surrender to Obama — they can take solace, that Obama wouldn’t even accept it, and is looking for an even better deal — unconditional surrender...
Senate to try again to end fiscal crisis, after nixing Collins’ plan
“Reid rejected the plan — which calls for funding the government for six months and increasing the federal debt limit through January — purportedly, in part, because the spending level of $967 billion next year was too low, despite it providing more flexibility in administering the federal budget cuts under sequester.”
This is Kabuki on the part of GOP House leadership. They know damned well the Senate, GOP leadership there or not, coming up with a budget “deal” means frigging NOTHING if they HOUSE does not accede to it.
The House leadership is paving the way to blame their coming surrender on the Senate GOP. They are playing like they have no choice in a frigging vote.
We KNOW better BOEHNER! You’d better get your damned act together and stay the course. Keep the government shut down and forget about your barber shop, gym, special catered lattes, etc. You spineless son of a bitch!
The more the GOP gives them, the more Obama and the Dems want — and for some reason this comes as a surprise to the GOP, when all the rest of us, who aren’t even so close to the government could see this in flashing neon lights years ago.
Senators return to work on fiscal crisis, but uncertain about how, when it will end
We will see our way through this, but the last 24 hours have not been good, Tennessee Sen. Bob Corker told Fox News Sunday. I agree that Republicans started with the overreach, but now Democrats are one tick too cute. They are now overreaching.
Boehner never had any intention sticking to the obamacare defund/delay game plan.
As soon as Reid tabled the House bills the RNC and NRSC should have carpet bombed all the vulnerable Senate Dems. Instead McConnell took a powder and now we are where we are.
It seems the Boehner/Cantor plan was to surrender last week but the kenyan wouldn’t accepted it. LOL. I can’t say I feel sorry for the beltway GOP leadership now. They deserve every bit of scorn they are getting.
This is Kabuki on the part of GOP House leadership. They know damned well the Senate, GOP leadership there or not, coming up with a budget deal means frigging NOTHING if they HOUSE does not accede to it.
I think it is too much of a FUBAR cluster to be kabuki. The Dems are running circles around the beltway GOP right now.
Obama is using Clinton’s playbook from 1995. Senate Republicans are using Dole’s playbook from 1995, too. Go along with the firebrands in the House for a while, then tell the kids “enough is enough” in a condescending way, and cut a deal with the White House. Last time, Gingrich went along after Dole cut him off at the knees. This time, Boehner would like to do the same, but my hope is that his caucus won’t let him. People like Gohmert speaking out and throwing light on what is going on keeps them from caving. HOLD THE LINE.
I just read Republican elites saying that delaying Obamacare was never an option. That should have been the compromise, but Boehner negotiated with himself until he was past that and down to medical device taxes and Congressional staffers. Pathetic. Put the one year delay back on the table, and pass all the appropriations bills in regular order, and if the Dems won’t accept any of it, put defunding entirely back on the table, and if they won’t accept that, tough. Tell them we are happy to negotiate over Obamacare, and will meet you to discuss it, but here is the funding for the government, and you have 100 percent.
Obama is clearly in this for all the marbles. I hope the GOP in the senate has figured that out by now.
Clearly the president can’t be trusted, said Rep. Aaron Schock (R-Ill.). It is up to Senate Republicans to grow a backbone and stand with House Republicans like they said they were going to do.
Duh, ya think? (’specially the part about Obama CAN’T BE TRUSTED.)
They are anything but real work and responsibility to the people that put them there. They rise in the ranks, get their seniority and they take their second-tier power willingly.
The only FUBAR related thing now is that fantastic group of 30-40 Congressman (young, pissed off Turks) where aren't there for the booty). Boehner can't get around them, but he can hit the airwaves with a “they (the Senate GOP) tied my hands, blah, blah blah)...
It is 100% Kabuki and they are playing it like a Stradivarius.
The Republicans in the House just have to remember that no deal can be done without them — just sit back and wait for them to come to them.
Democrats are communists in the Senate. And many of the Senate Republicans are communists also. Look up the definition of communists. They are hard core socialists
“Clearly the president can’t be trusted,
Stuned silence . . .
My thoughts exactly.
This what you get for negotiating with this dictator.
Clearly the president cant be trusted, said Rep. Aaron Schock (R-Ill.). It is up to Senate Republicans to grow a backbone and stand with House Republicans like they said they were going to do.
BS. Get back to me when Schock drops his support for an amnesty deal. He is full of it.
Republicans should just read back to Obama his own statement from 2006, when he was in the Senate:
In March 2006, then-Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., found the notion of raising the debt ceiling quite distasteful.
The fact that we are here today to debate raising Americas debt limit is a sign of leadership failure, he said. It is a sign that the U.S. Government cant pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Governments reckless fiscal policies. Leadership means that the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase Americas debt limit.
Calling Captain Obvious. Calling Captain Obvious.....
And here is the full text of Obama’s speech from 2006 opposing the debt limit increase:
Full Text of Obamas Speech Against Raising the Debt Ceiling in 2006
Republicans should just copy this word for word and send it to him, then get on TV and read it — then read what he is saying today.
The main problem the GOP has is that they are losing the public relations battle.
Republicans should just read back to Obama his own statement from 2006, when he was in the Senate:
They never do. The GOP should be running ads 24/7 of the kenyan flapping his gums in AR, LA, etc. That would grind to dust those Senate Dems up for election next year.
The problem is the big GOP donors don’t want this fight. The Adelsons and Kochs of the GOP are fine with socialized medicine.
Clearly the President cannot be trusted,
Clearly to me the Republicans in the Senate cannot be trusted either.
How can we trust people like Collins , McCain, Graham, Hatch, Ryan , Rubio, and many others in the Senate who are so busy kissing Harry Reid’s ass instead of doing their job.
There is only one Senator I trust., Ted Cruz.
Thank you. Someone states the obvious, you must fight hardball with hardball. Screw the media let them whine. Adjourn until they bend.
Naive, incompetent, or just a bunch of empty suits? take your pick.
the GoP leadership has been punked so many times , they have lost sight of their own inherent powers.. and are likely to surrender them,.. again.
I’m not a Republican (too conservative to be one) but I’ll save my ire until they capitulate.
Right now the govt is on slowdown and has been for some time.
I like it, and I’ll continue to like it for as long as it lasts.
“..The problem is the big GOP donors dont want this fight...”
Yes, and they don’t want to save our Constitutional Republic either. They simply don’t care.
Rep. Schock shouldn’t be too shocked. If he actually thought that this pResident was in any 2ay trustworthy, then I would advise him to wake up and smell the coffee.
Boner means “Surrender” in French.
Senate plots House GOP squeeze
[snip] Any emerging deal, however, will leave ObamaCare largely intact, angering conservatives who have demanded defunding or delaying President Obama’s signature achievement [sic]. “They are trying to jam us with the Senate and we are not going to roll over and take that,” House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) told reporters after a Saturday morning conference meeting. [/snip]
Lets start that conversation by acknowledging we arent going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants... bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society. Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors. [but hes not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]
...by softening its edge on some volatile social issues and altering its image as the party always seemingly "eager to go to war... We do need to expand the party and grow the party and that does mean that we don't always all agree on every issue" ... the party needs to become more welcoming to individuals who disagree with basic Republican doctrine on emotional social issues such as gay marriage... "We're going to have to be a little hands off on some of these issues ... and get people into the party," Paul said.
Rand Pauls immigration speech
03.19.13 | Hon Sen Rand Paul (KY)
Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg
...The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.
Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.
Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.
Lets start that conversation by acknowledging we arent going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.
If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you...
This is where prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society.
Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.
[but hes not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]