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Posted on 10/16/2013 4:44:36 AM PDT by lowbridge
As the realities of Obamacare continue to sink in, more and more people are getting letters from their health insurance providers telling them that their plans no longer comply with federal requirements under Obamacare. We just brought you the story of “Trick Shot Titus” and his family facing significant increases in the cost of their health care plans.
Now, a community blogger on the far-left Daily Kos website has penned a blog post complaining that both he and his wife are facing a nearly 100 percent increase in their monthly premiums. He claims he is canceling his insurance and refuses to pay any “f***ing penalty.”
Blogger “Tirge Caps” explains:
(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...
If you find yourself in a conversation with someone bemoaning their ObamaCare costs take the opportunity to remind them that those costs will be greatly increased with tens of millions of illegals granted amnesty and added to the rolls of freeloading ObamaCare recipients.
He’ll pay the penalty....they will take it out of that earned income tax credit (EITC) check he gets every year.
Next time they should do their due diligence when Conservatives tell the truth.
They lie to much that they believe everyone else are liars too.
Now the bill comes due..the Obamanistas thought it was going to be someone else to pick up the tab.
Welcome to reality, you enabling, ignorant dumba$$.
Simplest solution as the IRS is not allowed to punish you for not paying it.
One would hope a new cash for treatment industry would crop up in response to Obama-care. Then when they find something serious you can sign up for an insurance plan to get treatment.
Yes, they are all in favor of the kind of ‘fairness’ that's paid for with other people's efforts and other people's money.
Yes, they are all in favor of the kind of ‘fairness’ that's paid for with other people's efforts and other people's money.
Everyone keeps saying this, but really, how long do you think it'll be before they actually do punish you? It's inevitable.
When will the drug-addled chimps on the Left realize that Obama and the Democrats are the party of Wall St. The rest of the country is up on blocks in this terrible economy, but the entire effort of this administration and its cohorts in the Democrat Senate is to keep Wall St. fat and happy. After all, that’s where their campaign funds are.
Anyone who watches the business channels knows that Wall St. is a partner to greedy government. The Middle Class is toast.
He voted for 0, he deserves it.
It was a result of the way Obama-care was passed,
To get a final bill though both houses without another 60 in Senate the House had to accept the Senate version almost as is, which had this very weak public mandate.
Well someday Dems will make the argument that those avoiding Obama-care and the mandate are free-loading on us ‘taxpayers’, as they did to defend that mandate to get it passed(Obama made that argument).
If they win that argument then Obama-care will be modified to strengthen it.
Right now they don't want to be seen as doing that, but they still want Americans to comply and be scared of it.
Talk about your low-information voter... is this it, or what?
Did they not get it? A freak announces to the world WE HAVE TO PASS IT TO SEE WHATS IN IT.........then rams this unknown behemoth through on Christmas Eve.
You are exactly right. Since when does the IRS NOT eventually get what they say we owe them - one way or another?
They’ll do whatever it takes to get “their” money from us.
This is the government we’re talking about here, after all...
Some in the Left are playing the part of the “hero” in a Greek tragedy who suddenly realizes everything he believed stood for and fought for is a lie. My tagline fits this jerk well.
The left has such an overwhelming hatred of the right that their brain can’t process reasonable thoughts. They are truly delusional due to hatred.
You mean he doesn’t believe in the One anymore?
We tried to tell them but they refused to listen. His first mistake was believing Obama and Pelosi and Reid.
That’s it, exactly. Recall that Boston Globe article (which is now really hard to find) where Barney Frank admitted that he and the Dems ignored the Bush Admin’s warnings on the coming housing market collapse because they just assumed that the Bush Admin was playing political games.
If you find yourself in a conversation with someone bemoaning their ObamaCare costs take the opportunity to remind them that those costs will be greatly increased with tens of millions of illegals granted amnesty and added to the rolls of freeloading ObamaCare recipients.
Don’t know if you were watching Megyn Kelly last night, but Louie Gommert commented on the amnesty push being the next big thing and one of the reasons he and others stand behind defunding OCare.
He simply pointed out that there are some in the congress who want to protect the US from these ill thought plans .
Go Louie.
They aren’t going to wait for you to pay It they will just take it.
http://www.infowars.com/obamacare-fines-to-be-seized-from-bank-accounts/
That’s it, exactly. Recall that Boston Globe article (which is now really hard to find) where Barney Frank admitted that he and the Dems ignored the Bush Admin’s warnings on the coming housing market collapse because they just assumed that the Bush Admin was playing political games.
Thats the problem. Even when they admit it there are no consequences.
As a faithful water carrier he should file with “The Great ObamaNation” for a suck-up exemption.
Aren’t the illegals still going to get free health care? As far as I know ObamaCare doesn’t change the law that requires ER’s to treat them for whatever they want. With all their fake ID’s how will the IRS penalize them?
Wait till they start taking private property for payment. They will even equate it to capitalism. When you can’t pay your debts we need to take your car or your house. But don’t worry, you can move to govt. housing where we tell you to. That is the true end game of greedy government.
I thought with this guy’s background; he would be exempt? After reading what he said; I am still suspicious.
Another lefty mugged by reality.
Welcome to the party, pal!
And the IRS won’t stop at taking fines just related to 0bamacare either. Didn’t file your taxes last year? No problem. We’ll just save you the trouble and take them ourselves, along with the P & I.
This scenario is ‘zackly why I’ve scratched my head at some Republican efforts to delay 0-care until after the 2014 elections......let it kick in now, so people get kicked in the gnuts, and start to realize what they voted for last year.
Hey KOmmie, this is what you voted for. It is ALWAYS the result of top down, heavy fisted, cenralized planners. You are nothing but a commodity now and your life is only extended at the whim of an elitist that wants to be able to fit in at the cocktail parties.
This is what you wanted, now suffer with glee.
Oh no, no, no, my sweet little leftist - you WILL pay, because that's what you supported. Oh, maybe you tried to deny that that was what the law was when you were fighting those nasty rightwingers that opposed Obamacare because they were "racist", but the law is the law. You WILL pay.
A moron’s delayed epiphany.
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Socialism Is Legal Plunder - Bastiat
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
-That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Socialism is using the State to do your stealing for you because you're too much of a coward to come up to me and take it yourself.
("you" being a leftist that supports "redistribution")
How is that going to work?
Most people file taxes electronically now. Will TurboTax ask if you want to pay this optional penalty for not having insurance?
I don’t think so.
It will ask you for proof that you meet that mandate and if you check that you dont then it will tell you owe the penalty/tax and deduct that amount from your refund.
But if you are not due a refund then they are out of luck. If they try to do anything plenty of lawyers will volunteer to take it to court to get a court to rule that the government cant do anything about it.
Don't know who determines the $ amount.
Everytime I post that the IRS is clearly forbidden from punishing you for not paying the fine/tax, I get the same fictional responses.
I think their goal is to make it sound so scary that it gets magically repealed(poof) , but give that is not happening this misinformation can have the unintended consequence of fooling/scaring people into complying and helping Obamacare work.
I found the section in the bill text and will post it as a vanity for future reference.
Democrats learn from their mistakes....Hillary care was known before they tried to pass it....when I heard Pelosi make that stupid statement, I had to smirk, they were not going to make the same mistake twice, therefore, we have to pass it to find out what it says.....problem with republicans is that they never learn from one election to the next..truly the stupid party and democrats the evil party.
Absolutely. F'n POS socialist punks.
What Is Law?
What, then, is law? It is the collective organization of the individual right to lawful defense.
Each of us has a natural right — from God — to defend his person, his liberty, and his property. These are the three basic requirements of life, and the preservation of any one of them is completely dependent upon the preservation of the other two. For what are our faculties but the extension of our individuality? And what is property but an extension of our faculties? If every person has the right to defend even by force — his person, his liberty, and his property, then it follows that a group of men have the right to organize and support a common force to protect these rights constantly. Thus the principle of collective right — its reason for existing, its lawfulness — is based on individual right. And the common force that protects this collective right cannot logically have any other purpose or any other mission than that for which it acts as a substitute. Thus, since an individual cannot lawfully use force against the person, liberty, or property of another individual, then the common force — for the same reason — cannot lawfully be used to destroy the person, liberty, or property of individuals or groups.
Such a perversion of force would be, in both cases, contrary to our premise. Force has been given to us to defend our own individual rights. Who will dare to say that force has been given to us to destroy the equal rights of our brothers? Since no individual acting separately can lawfully use force to destroy the rights of others, does it not logically follow that the same principle also applies to the common force that is nothing more than the organized combination of the individual forces?
If this is true, then nothing can be more evident than this: The law is the organization of the natural right of lawful defense. It is the substitution of a common force for individual forces. And this common force is to do only what the individual forces have a natural and lawful right to do: to protect persons, liberties, and properties; to maintain the right of each, and to cause justice to reign over us all.
A Just and Enduring Government
If a nation were founded on this basis, it seems to me that order would prevail among the people, in thought as well as in deed. It seems to me that such a nation would have the most simple, easy to accept, economical, limited, nonoppressive, just, and enduring government imaginable — whatever its political form might be.
Under such an administration, everyone would understand that he possessed all the privileges as well as all the responsibilities of his existence. No one would have any argument with government, provided that his person was respected, his labor was free, and the fruits of his labor were protected against all unjust attack. When successful, we would not have to thank the state for our success. And, conversely, when unsuccessful, we would no more think of blaming the state for our misfortune than would the farmers blame the state because of hail or frost. The state would be felt only by the invaluable blessings of safety provided by this concept of government.
It can be further stated that, thanks to the non-intervention of the state in private affairs, our wants and their satisfactions would develop themselves in a logical manner. We would not see poor families seeking literary instruction before they have bread. We would not see cities populated at the expense of rural districts, nor rural districts at the expense of cities. We would not see the great displacements of capital, labor, and population that are caused by legislative decisions.
The sources of our existence are made uncertain and precarious by these state-created displacements. And, furthermore, these acts burden the government with increased responsibilities.
The Complete Perversion of the Law
But, unfortunately, law by no means confines itself to its proper functions. And when it has exceeded its proper functions, it has not done so merely in some inconsequential and debatable matters. The law has gone further than this; it has acted in direct opposition to its own purpose. The law has been used to destroy its own objective: It has been applied to annihilating the justice that it was supposed to maintain; to limiting and destroying rights which its real purpose was to respect. The law has placed the collective force at the disposal of the unscrupulous who wish, without risk, to exploit the person, liberty, and property of others. It has converted plunder into a right, in order to protect plunder. And it has converted lawful defense into a crime, in order to punish lawful defense.
The Law - Frederic Bastiat
--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
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FUCONgress
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FUFED
Tom Hayden 1968, "First we will make the revolution, and then we will find out what for."
“a feak” Love it.
As Mark Levin calls her..... Nancy Stretch Pelosi
Every time that I see her on TV I have a hard time actually listening to the content of what she is saying....Instead, I just think the whole time....There is something wrong with her. She is not normal by any means
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