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Republicans Back Down, Ending Crisis Over Shutdown and Debt Limit
NYT ^ | Oct. 16, 2013 | By JONATHAN WEISMAN and ASHLEY PARKER

Posted on 10/16/2013 7:15:33 PM PDT by lonestar67

Edited on 10/17/2013 6:40:18 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON — Congressional Republicans conceded defeat on Wednesday in their bitter budget fight with President Obama over the new health care law as the House and Senate approved last-minute legislation ending a disruptive 16-day government shutdown and extending federal borrowing power to avert a financial default with potentially worldwide economic repercussions.

With the Treasury Department warning that it could run out of money to pay national obligations within a day, the Senate voted overwhelmingly on Wednesday evening, 81 to 18, to approve a proposal hammered out by the chamber’s Republican and Democratic leaders after the House on Tuesday was unable to move forward with any resolution. The House followed suit a few hours later, voting 285 to 144 to approve the Senate plan, which would fund the government through Jan. 15 and raise the debt limit through Feb. 7.

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To: paristexas
Just remember, we had Jimmy Carter right before Ronald Reagan.

Politicians come and politicians go, but entitlement programs are forever.

251 posted on 10/17/2013 3:07:28 AM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: lonestar67

Compromise? Compromise?

Really?


252 posted on 10/17/2013 3:16:03 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: lonestar67

Compromise??? What did Obama compromise on?


253 posted on 10/17/2013 3:50:29 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Aria

You are not alone. Is America even still worth fighting for? Obama rules.


254 posted on 10/17/2013 3:52:08 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: BobP

People in OH must have no shame!


255 posted on 10/17/2013 4:05:30 AM PDT by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: nutmeg

Conservatism is quite new to KS, just a few House members in fact. Bob Dole had been the KS “conservative” who got invited to the talk shows. Mrs. Kassebaum Baker was hardly on any of them. She is even more liberal than her second husband. Before Kassebaum and Dole were ultra-libs Frank Carlson and James B. Pearson for many, many years.


256 posted on 10/17/2013 4:08:59 AM PDT by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: LucyT
Remember this on election day.

Nearly everyone here voted for Romney last year. Next year, same **** different dude. Anyone who balks will be mercilessly insulted, denounced, shunned.

Yet we go on blaming the compromisers in Congress.

257 posted on 10/17/2013 4:25:31 AM PDT by HomeAtLast (The original Tea Party entailed a willingness to do without some tea.)
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To: Nik Naym
It can’t be fixed. It can’t be changed. The people are too stupid.

The better informed people are too selfish, lazy, and cowardly.

258 posted on 10/17/2013 4:33:04 AM PDT by HomeAtLast (The original Tea Party entailed a willingness to do without some tea.)
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To: navymom1
We’re also gonna pay for their healthcare at 75%. Isn’t the GOPe grand?

You could lower your income and not pay and get in no trouble at all...The GOP is grand, yes, and so is the taxpaying enabler.

259 posted on 10/17/2013 4:41:38 AM PDT by HomeAtLast (The original Tea Party entailed a willingness to do without some tea.)
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To: nutmeg

Lawrence, Topeka, Manhattan area is a hot bed of liberals. She is a traitor to the state of Kansas and is in the running for ugliness on the scale of Helen Thomas.

Hometown Kansas girl MY ASS!


260 posted on 10/17/2013 5:14:37 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: Girlene; central_va; GilesB; WhistlingPastTheGraveyard; LTC.Ret
What's wrong Wrong WRONG..... with what I posted?

The problem cannot be solved alone with the hope of electing virtuous politicians. Bush had a Republican congress for a couple years and blew the debt sky high.

Our Framers didn't rely on the election of righteous and moral men; neither should we.

Only a return to federalism can possibly save what very little remains of republican freedom.

261 posted on 10/17/2013 5:17:55 AM PDT by Jacquerie (An Article V amendment convention is our only hope.)
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To: Aria
Only my love of my family stops me.

Same here. I shudder to think what it will take for me to say "eff it" and leave. Probably right after I dispatch a few hundred looters roving the countryside.

262 posted on 10/17/2013 6:06:24 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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To: HomeAtLast
Nearly everyone here voted for Romney last year. Next year, same **** different dude. Anyone who balks will be mercilessly insulted, denounced, shunned.

Yet we go on blaming the compromisers in Congress


Am I in before the “This is all your fault for not electing Mittens” posts?
263 posted on 10/17/2013 6:40:24 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: Myrddin
Time to primary that asshole Mike Simpson. We have candidate to run against him already. This vote seals his fate as a RINO.


Considering the demographics of the state I think we should all call his office and ask just who in the blue blazes was he representing yesterday. It must be his wallet, or his buds on the beltway, or lobbyist. It sure isn't the people of Idaho.
264 posted on 10/17/2013 6:45:17 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

At first glance it appears that the majority of the Republican House caucus defied their leadership and voted against the sellout. One would think, therefore, that there would be a full scale revolt against the entire GOP leadership to punish them for their betrayal. But that’s not how Washington works. This was all a big charade. The House leaders figured out how many votes they needed to pass the bill and determined which members were best able to survive a “yes” vote. If they had needed another 30 sellout votes, they would have got another 30 sellout votes. A lot of those in the GOP majority were simply permitted to vote No to give them political cover for next year’s election cycle. There are probably only 50 true conservatives in the entire House and fewer than 10 in the entire Senate. The political balance situation is much worse than the average American imagines.


265 posted on 10/17/2013 7:10:34 AM PDT by littleharbour ("All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree. ~ James Madison)
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Please donate today!


266 posted on 10/17/2013 7:18:23 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: lonestar67

We must stop the IDIOCRACY!


267 posted on 10/17/2013 7:21:54 AM PDT by john316 (JOSHUA 24:15 ...choose you this day whom ye will serve...)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Me too...guess I better buy a couple of pairs of new “walking shoes”!


268 posted on 10/17/2013 7:22:26 AM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: littleharbour

BUT, but, we need to take-back the GOP from the INSIDE.

As if, in the 40+yrs it’d take to even come close, the Republic would be worth ‘saving’

Where do I sign my name under the 2nd Declaration of Independence?


269 posted on 10/17/2013 7:25:20 AM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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To: lonestar67
...which would fund the government through Jan. 15 and raise the debt limit through Feb. 7.

Hmmm. What happens then? Deja Vu again?

270 posted on 10/17/2013 7:31:05 AM PDT by McGruff (Conservatives are sure catching a lot of flak lately. Wonder why?)
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To: littleharbour

I fear you are correct. I hope we can convince people we need the “numbers” to stop this tradition.

We will need to examine the voting records of the members who voted NO before Keeping them. I hope each district does this, wish I could be more positive.


271 posted on 10/17/2013 7:34:00 AM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: nutmeg
KS IS as conservative as you think but what Jenkins will tell you, "I'm voting what my constituency wanted me to do," reading "I represent liberal neighbors in Topeka" (government Capitol of KS, were it not for liberal big government in Topeka, it would revert to a simple farming community!

What Jenkins is again saying, "I'm not voting what is best for the citizens in my community but what they tell me they want and it's not about 'doing the right thing,' it's about getting reelected!"

That crap ain't gonna work any longer in Kansas.

Word to Lynn Jenkins, "Lynn, you're not in Kansas any more, so head on outta here!"

272 posted on 10/17/2013 7:42:57 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: i_robot73

It has nothing to do with labels, it has to do with electing the right individuals. Running a Tea Party candidate in a GOP primary and winning makes defeating the Democrat much easier than if you ran as a third party in a 3-way race against both of them. At least in states where there is no run-off election and the “winner” gets to win with less than 50% of the vote, as Franken did. Being obsessed with what party label someone uses is stupid. Strategizing to get the right people elected is what’s important, not their label.

If Obama had run as a third party Socialist or Green Party, he would have lost handily. That’s not the way to go.


273 posted on 10/17/2013 7:49:36 AM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: dfwgator

Was there any doubt the way this was gonna end?


274 posted on 10/17/2013 7:50:56 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: snarkytart

No doubt at all.


275 posted on 10/17/2013 7:53:59 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: lonestar67

Did I hear that this bill includes some limitation on Congress that prevents them from stopping a future raising of the debt ceiling?


276 posted on 10/17/2013 8:19:42 AM PDT by Yehuda (Pres Obortion, Sen.McAnus, & Hillary Abedin Clinton all kiss the *ss of the muslim brotherhood.)
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To: NonValueAdded
Complete cave-in at the last chance to rein in the Socialist agenda.

Ya tell the morons both these party's are all riding in the same limo, and ya get that familier look..

277 posted on 10/17/2013 8:37:52 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

yep, that’s them


278 posted on 10/17/2013 8:39:48 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Occupy the DC Mall - take back the monuments)
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To: snarkytart
Was there any doubt the way this was gonna end?

Of course not.

While some were cheering on and worshipping their latest political celebrities, some were telling them what was going to happen.

>>>They'll shove this down your throats and then legalize tens of millions of foreign illegal criminals<<<

279 posted on 10/17/2013 8:41:29 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: snarkytart

Not after last Saturday. The GOP got the message loud and clear. They will no longer be able to stop any of this, even if they wanted to.


280 posted on 10/17/2013 8:42:14 AM PDT by dforest
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To: NonValueAdded

They announced every single one of these bloated tax paid government employees will be paid every penny they didn’t earn while sitting at home watching movies..

Try that in the real world


281 posted on 10/17/2013 8:49:05 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Delta 21

I’d say Topeka is fairly conservative. Lawrence is the liberal Mecca. Manhattan don’t know so much.


282 posted on 10/17/2013 9:02:56 AM PDT by navymom1
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To: JediJones

How about we just get away from Parties, in general.

You’re partially correct, it does have to do w/ electing the ‘right’ people. Those that know and follow the Constitution, as well as the problems gov’t creates. That type of person ISN’T going to be anyone that is already IN gov’t.

But, if anything like the last 2 presidential elections, I’ll again vote for every office where the above is true. Otherwise, there is no reason to give any one/party the semblance of approval by adding my vote to their tally.

As for your last point...I’m not so sure he WOULD have lost.


283 posted on 10/17/2013 9:17:21 AM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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To: BobP

284 posted on 10/17/2013 9:49:09 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: dragnet2

285 posted on 10/17/2013 10:02:55 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: lonestar67

This is the day that the GOP finally died a long painful slow death via suicide. At least the President and the Vice President of The Republic of Texas stood up and represented us. SECEDE!!!!!!!!!!


286 posted on 10/17/2013 10:09:13 AM PDT by Chong
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To: Chong

It died in 2008, it just didn’t know it yet.


287 posted on 10/17/2013 10:09:32 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Yup!


288 posted on 10/17/2013 10:11:54 AM PDT by Chong
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To: lonestar67

What shall we name the replacement party?


289 posted on 10/17/2013 10:13:35 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: ilovesarah2012

What did Obama compromise on?

_______________________________

Probably the length of time and how low each Republican now kneels at his feet.


290 posted on 10/17/2013 10:14:49 AM PDT by navymom1
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To: navymom1

They not only kneel at hussein’s feet now, but they also wash his feet with their hair - what’s left of it that is. Next thing you know, the republicans will also “annoint” hussein’s feet with the best oil that our money can buy.

Oh wait.....


291 posted on 10/17/2013 10:21:28 AM PDT by Chong
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To: zerosix
That crap ain't gonna work any longer in Kansas.

I hope you're right! That crap fools the stupid sheeple here in the People's Republik of Connecticut (and in all blue states) on a daily basis.

Of course once I posted my question to you last night, I remembered that Kathleen Sebelius and her close personal friend Tiller the Killer both practiced their evil in the State of Kansas...

Hope the good people of Kansas oust all the liberal and RINO trash in 2014 and 2016...

292 posted on 10/17/2013 10:23:31 AM PDT by nutmeg (I don't always speak to Obama voters. But when I do, I order fries...)
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To: Phillyred

What shall we name the replacement party?

How about the Bury the Whack Left Party?


293 posted on 10/17/2013 10:40:31 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: lonestar67

Bonehead needs to be replaced right now.
We no longer need a “weeper of the House”, we need a real man that has the gonads to stand up for what is right for the country and won’t cave in. Boner might as well just go switch parties and get it over with. Pelousi is actually running the House anyway.


294 posted on 10/17/2013 10:45:51 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: Jeff Head

“”Look, Barry, we have the votes to stop you cold, and we have decided to use those votes.
We control government funduing and we are going to exercise that control.”

Obama- “Have you seen your daughter’s NSA file, Mr. Republican Congressman? Have you been audited, lately? You should see the stuff we have on your primary fundraiser!”


295 posted on 10/17/2013 12:08:30 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: lonestar67
Republicans Back Down, Ending Crisis Allowing Continued Fiscal Irresponsibility, Over Shutdown and Debt Limit

There. Fixed it.

296 posted on 10/17/2013 12:10:21 PM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: Girlene; mrsmith

The chick was one of the staff house recorders. Grabbed a hot mike and got in a few protest licks before they eased her out. I saw it both on the early Blaze and early FOX. Beck has the best version of the audio.


297 posted on 10/17/2013 1:05:09 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: lonestar67

Boehner is a disgrace and should resign immediately. Had the democrats constructed a plan or scenario for how this whole episode unfolded, it would have been identical to what actually happened - all courtesy the genius of Boehner.

We got NOTHING but failure and Boehner should be held accountable and accept responsibility. In a bygone era where honor still counted for something he would already be gone. Now its all about re-writing history in the interest of self-preservation - to our detriment.


298 posted on 10/17/2013 1:08:24 PM PDT by PAR
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To: snarkytart

The worst part is that this capitulation energizes the Maxistcrats beyond their wildest dreams in their taunting and derision of the Republican’ts. Look for massive pushes by the Party of Satan now for blanket amnesty for criminal invaders, massive tax increases, and all other manner of Marxism, because they know that RINO’s will just roll over or bend over for them.


299 posted on 10/17/2013 3:20:47 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: dfwgator
Compromise? What effing Compromise???

The Rats got everything they wanted.


You're right. This was a total freaking disaster for us.

We're getting killed in the polls. Being blamed for the shutdown may well cost us elections this November not to mention give us a big hole to dig out from next year. We've emboldened the Dems and given Obama a fourth straight win over Obamacare. Even worse, we've distracted the public from its botched rollout.

I'm trying to find the silver lining here. Some republicans raised money off us? Not a good trade.
300 posted on 10/17/2013 3:27:43 PM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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