Skip to comments.Republicans Back Down, Ending Crisis Over Shutdown and Debt Limit
Posted on 10/16/2013 7:15:33 PM PDT by lonestar67Edited on 10/17/2013 6:40:18 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
WASHINGTON Congressional Republicans conceded defeat on Wednesday in their bitter budget fight with President Obama over the new health care law as the House and Senate approved last-minute legislation ending a disruptive 16-day government shutdown and extending federal borrowing power to avert a financial default with potentially worldwide economic repercussions.
With the Treasury Department warning that it could run out of money to pay national obligations within a day, the Senate voted overwhelmingly on Wednesday evening, 81 to 18, to approve a proposal hammered out by the chambers Republican and Democratic leaders after the House on Tuesday was unable to move forward with any resolution. The House followed suit a few hours later, voting 285 to 144 to approve the Senate plan, which would fund the government through Jan. 15 and raise the debt limit through Feb. 7.
Politicians come and politicians go, but entitlement programs are forever.
Compromise??? What did Obama compromise on?
You are not alone. Is America even still worth fighting for? Obama rules.
People in OH must have no shame!
Conservatism is quite new to KS, just a few House members in fact. Bob Dole had been the KS “conservative” who got invited to the talk shows. Mrs. Kassebaum Baker was hardly on any of them. She is even more liberal than her second husband. Before Kassebaum and Dole were ultra-libs Frank Carlson and James B. Pearson for many, many years.
Nearly everyone here voted for Romney last year. Next year, same **** different dude. Anyone who balks will be mercilessly insulted, denounced, shunned.
Yet we go on blaming the compromisers in Congress.
The better informed people are too selfish, lazy, and cowardly.
You could lower your income and not pay and get in no trouble at all...The GOP is grand, yes, and so is the taxpaying enabler.
Lawrence, Topeka, Manhattan area is a hot bed of liberals. She is a traitor to the state of Kansas and is in the running for ugliness on the scale of Helen Thomas.
Hometown Kansas girl MY ASS!
The problem cannot be solved alone with the hope of electing virtuous politicians. Bush had a Republican congress for a couple years and blew the debt sky high.
Our Framers didn't rely on the election of righteous and moral men; neither should we.
Only a return to federalism can possibly save what very little remains of republican freedom.
Same here. I shudder to think what it will take for me to say "eff it" and leave. Probably right after I dispatch a few hundred looters roving the countryside.
Yet we go on blaming the compromisers in Congress
At first glance it appears that the majority of the Republican House caucus defied their leadership and voted against the sellout. One would think, therefore, that there would be a full scale revolt against the entire GOP leadership to punish them for their betrayal. But that’s not how Washington works. This was all a big charade. The House leaders figured out how many votes they needed to pass the bill and determined which members were best able to survive a “yes” vote. If they had needed another 30 sellout votes, they would have got another 30 sellout votes. A lot of those in the GOP majority were simply permitted to vote No to give them political cover for next year’s election cycle. There are probably only 50 true conservatives in the entire House and fewer than 10 in the entire Senate. The political balance situation is much worse than the average American imagines.
We must stop the IDIOCRACY!
Me too...guess I better buy a couple of pairs of new “walking shoes”!
BUT, but, we need to take-back the GOP from the INSIDE.
As if, in the 40+yrs it’d take to even come close, the Republic would be worth ‘saving’
Where do I sign my name under the 2nd Declaration of Independence?
Hmmm. What happens then? Deja Vu again?
I fear you are correct. I hope we can convince people we need the “numbers” to stop this tradition.
We will need to examine the voting records of the members who voted NO before Keeping them. I hope each district does this, wish I could be more positive.
What Jenkins is again saying, "I'm not voting what is best for the citizens in my community but what they tell me they want and it's not about 'doing the right thing,' it's about getting reelected!"
That crap ain't gonna work any longer in Kansas.
Word to Lynn Jenkins, "Lynn, you're not in Kansas any more, so head on outta here!"
It has nothing to do with labels, it has to do with electing the right individuals. Running a Tea Party candidate in a GOP primary and winning makes defeating the Democrat much easier than if you ran as a third party in a 3-way race against both of them. At least in states where there is no run-off election and the “winner” gets to win with less than 50% of the vote, as Franken did. Being obsessed with what party label someone uses is stupid. Strategizing to get the right people elected is what’s important, not their label.
If Obama had run as a third party Socialist or Green Party, he would have lost handily. That’s not the way to go.
Was there any doubt the way this was gonna end?
No doubt at all.
Did I hear that this bill includes some limitation on Congress that prevents them from stopping a future raising of the debt ceiling?
Ya tell the morons both these party's are all riding in the same limo, and ya get that familier look..
yep, that’s them
Of course not.
While some were cheering on and worshipping their latest political celebrities, some were telling them what was going to happen.
>>>They'll shove this down your throats and then legalize tens of millions of foreign illegal criminals<<<
Not after last Saturday. The GOP got the message loud and clear. They will no longer be able to stop any of this, even if they wanted to.
They announced every single one of these bloated tax paid government employees will be paid every penny they didnt earn while sitting at home watching movies..
Try that in the real world
I’d say Topeka is fairly conservative. Lawrence is the liberal Mecca. Manhattan don’t know so much.
How about we just get away from Parties, in general.
You’re partially correct, it does have to do w/ electing the ‘right’ people. Those that know and follow the Constitution, as well as the problems gov’t creates. That type of person ISN’T going to be anyone that is already IN gov’t.
But, if anything like the last 2 presidential elections, I’ll again vote for every office where the above is true. Otherwise, there is no reason to give any one/party the semblance of approval by adding my vote to their tally.
As for your last point...I’m not so sure he WOULD have lost.
This is the day that the GOP finally died a long painful slow death via suicide. At least the President and the Vice President of The Republic of Texas stood up and represented us. SECEDE!!!!!!!!!!
It died in 2008, it just didn’t know it yet.
What shall we name the replacement party?
What did Obama compromise on?
Probably the length of time and how low each Republican now kneels at his feet.
They not only kneel at hussein’s feet now, but they also wash his feet with their hair - what’s left of it that is. Next thing you know, the republicans will also “annoint” hussein’s feet with the best oil that our money can buy.
I hope you're right! That crap fools the stupid sheeple here in the People's Republik of Connecticut (and in all blue states) on a daily basis.
Of course once I posted my question to you last night, I remembered that Kathleen Sebelius and her close personal friend Tiller the Killer both practiced their evil in the State of Kansas...
Hope the good people of Kansas oust all the liberal and RINO trash in 2014 and 2016...
What shall we name the replacement party?
How about the Bury the Whack Left Party?
Bonehead needs to be replaced right now.
We no longer need a “weeper of the House”, we need a real man that has the gonads to stand up for what is right for the country and won’t cave in. Boner might as well just go switch parties and get it over with. Pelousi is actually running the House anyway.
“”Look, Barry, we have the votes to stop you cold, and we have decided to use those votes.
We control government funduing and we are going to exercise that control.”
Obama- “Have you seen your daughter’s NSA file, Mr. Republican Congressman? Have you been audited, lately? You should see the stuff we have on your primary fundraiser!”
There. Fixed it.
The chick was one of the staff house recorders. Grabbed a hot mike and got in a few protest licks before they eased her out. I saw it both on the early Blaze and early FOX. Beck has the best version of the audio.
Boehner is a disgrace and should resign immediately. Had the democrats constructed a plan or scenario for how this whole episode unfolded, it would have been identical to what actually happened - all courtesy the genius of Boehner.
We got NOTHING but failure and Boehner should be held accountable and accept responsibility. In a bygone era where honor still counted for something he would already be gone. Now its all about re-writing history in the interest of self-preservation - to our detriment.
The worst part is that this capitulation energizes the Maxistcrats beyond their wildest dreams in their taunting and derision of the Republican’ts. Look for massive pushes by the Party of Satan now for blanket amnesty for criminal invaders, massive tax increases, and all other manner of Marxism, because they know that RINO’s will just roll over or bend over for them.