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U.S. Army in the Market for ‘Light’ Tanks
National Defense ^ | 10/7/2013 | Sandra I. Erwin

Posted on 10/16/2013 10:00:02 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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To: Slings and Arrows
“Anything is air-droppable...once.”

Antonov designed a biplane that would deliver a tank by air.

21 posted on 10/17/2013 1:52:28 AM PDT by Does so (Soon, we'll be looking like Detroit.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I don’t know why we even spend on our military anymore; if we are going to live as Euro-weenies can we have a Canadian-style military? We pretend Red China is a threat as we build them into a superpower (still training their cadres in our universities and funding their economic rise with our purchases); we will never fight a large-scale conventional war again. This is just a workfare charade; I understand the need for a strong military in days gone by, but we aren’t even taking this seriously anymore.


22 posted on 10/17/2013 1:53:07 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I worked for GD. The Army begged us for a light tank. GD said, “Well, give us, oh, say $10,000,000 and we’ll do a design study. But we only do heavy armor and you only want heavy armor.” The Stryker is 26 tons (Abrams is 70 tons). The army wanted lighter but couldn’t get the money for a design study. The trend has been that companies invest their own money and then present their product to the military.

AM General, Oshkosh and Force Protection each invested about 1.5 billion of their own money and produced a “tank” based on a 6 ton chassis. The army loved it and took GD’s Abrams upgrade money and the Stryker money and bought lots of them. My guess is this will be the next “light” tank.

The army has attempted to get rid of the Abrams as they have several flaws that will make them unusable on future battlefields. Perhaps the biggest problem is the logistics stream of tankers required to keep the moving. Those will be vulnerable to RPV’s and other weapons. The next problem is there are now man carried weapons that can take them out from the rear. But the worst problem will be getting them to where they are needed.

So far Congress has prevented the army from dumping Abrams.


23 posted on 10/17/2013 1:57:08 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Light in the loafers tanks.


24 posted on 10/17/2013 3:39:07 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Obama: A dark spot in this country's history.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Next they will return stateside to be “donated” to local LEO


25 posted on 10/17/2013 4:33:43 AM PDT by printhead (Standard & Poor - Poor is the new standard.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I thought airborne as in parachutes was dead. As a general rule, the airborne assaults in WW II were not really successful.


26 posted on 10/17/2013 4:38:34 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Bring back the Sheridan! :-)


27 posted on 10/17/2013 4:45:02 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
I was expecting more along of the lines of the new "Obama Fabu-Tank" - it's enviro-friendly aggression!


28 posted on 10/17/2013 5:18:01 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Little Pig
Seems like it would be more productive to develop an up-sized C-130 that could deliver what we have using unimproved air fields.

Alternately, robot tanks could take point.

29 posted on 10/17/2013 5:24:07 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Growing up in the early-70s, a friend’s dad was an O-6 armor expert, West Point grad plus MSME from GA Tech. He said exactly that about the Sheridan.


30 posted on 10/17/2013 5:25:33 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: hinckley buzzard

>>Main gun was the Shillelagh TOW missile.

Shillelagh and TOW missiles were very different animals. Shillelagh used an infrared link back to the launch optics, while TOW uses wires (Tube-launched, Optically-tracked, Wire-guided).

TOW was a much more successful system than Shillelagh. The infrared command link of Shillelagh was high among its many problems.


31 posted on 10/17/2013 5:34:16 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: archy; Gringo1; Matthew James; Fred Mertz; Squantos; colorado tanker; The Shrew; SLB; Darksheare; ..

Treadhead ping.


32 posted on 10/17/2013 5:36:12 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: kearnyirish2

You don’t understand, the military will be inward facing now....


33 posted on 10/17/2013 5:37:19 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

34 posted on 10/17/2013 7:59:48 AM PDT by Daffynition (*In memory of FReeper Blackie. God rest his *Hooligan* soul.*)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
I have a better idea. Update, upgun and modernize these and put them back in production:


35 posted on 10/17/2013 12:37:10 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: central_va

“You don’t understand, the military will be inward facing now...”

If people believe that (and it is a real possibility) then we should slash them to the bone.


36 posted on 10/17/2013 2:08:44 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: FreedomPoster

This takes me back. The Sheridan was a fun little tank to run around in. I wouldn’t have wanted to go to war in it, though.


37 posted on 10/17/2013 2:56:36 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Rockpile
A Sherman could not be carried by a C-130 since it would be about 18-20 thousand pounds too heavy. Besides, I think a Sherman is too tall to even get it into the fuselage.

I have over 5000 hours as a C-130 loadmaster and our -9 at one time had loading instructions for the Sherman tank.

38 posted on 10/17/2013 10:55:03 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: AlaskaErik

Time to eat crow...it was the Sheridan, not the Sherman tank, that we could carry in the C-130.


39 posted on 10/17/2013 11:01:20 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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40 posted on 10/17/2013 11:04:53 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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