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Trial Of Soldier (FREEPER) Chris Grisham, Who Carried AR-15 Rifle On Public Street, Goes To Jury
Opposing Views ^ | 10/18/2013 | By Jonathan Vankin

Posted on 10/17/2013 1:16:18 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd

The fate of a Fort Hood soldier who was arrested in March while openly carrying an AR-15 rifle down a road in Central Texas is now in the hands of a jury. The trial of Christopher Grisham has drawn the ardent interest of gun-rights advocates nationwide.

Grisham, an active-duty Army Master Sergeant, was accompanying his 15-year-old son on a 10-mile hike back in March. The hike was part of the younger Grisham’s Boy Scout activities.

Grisham and Christopher Grisham Jr. were walking along Airport Road in West Temple, Texas, when they were approached by police officer Steve Ermis.

The police had received a call from someone alarmed by the sight of a man walking in public carrying a military-style assault weapon.

When Ermis confronted the elder Grisham, the soldier protested. Shortly, the teenage Grisham whipped out is cell phone and recorded the incident. That video can be seen in its entirety below.

At trial, which concluded this morning, Oct. 17, Ermis testified that he did not know why Grisham was carrying the high-powered weapon and that aspects of Grisham’s behavior were troubling to him.

Grisham faces a misdemeanor charge of interfering with the duties of a police officer. According to court records cited in the press, the soldier resisted when the cop tried to get him to put his hands behind his back. He also refused to hand over his rifle.

It is not illegal to carry a rifle in Texas.

Gun rights advocates have taken up Grisham’s cause. Blue Rannefeld, lawyer for the National Association of Legal Gun Defense, gave the defense’s opening statement and blasted Ermis for going “above and beyond to control and intimidate” Grisham.

When the younger Grisham testified on his father’s behalf, he said the rifle was for fending off feral hogs that had been spotted in the area.

He also said that Ermis drew his own gun and aimed it at the back of the senior Grisham’s head when the solider refused to surrender his rifle.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: banglist; christophergrisham; donutwatch; freeper; grisham; guncontrol; moronwithbadge; rkba; secondamendment; stupidcoptricks; warriorcops
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To: BBell
Interfering with the duties of a police officer.

Too bad detaining a citizen absent reasonable suspicion isn't a lawful duty of the police.

121 posted on 10/17/2013 6:15:33 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: BBell
Interfering with the duties of a police officer.

Did the agent of government allege this?

Where on the video did he commit this crime?

If you could be specific.

122 posted on 10/17/2013 6:17:15 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 101stAirborneVet

His actions deemed him to be reasonably suspicious.


123 posted on 10/17/2013 6:17:57 PM PDT by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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To: BBell
His actions deemed him to be reasonably suspicious.

Okay, it's official. You have NO IDEA what you are talking about. Reasonable suspicion isn't some vague concept. You must articulate the specific crime you suspect to be in progress when the police originally approached him and tried to take his rifle.

Hint: there wasn't one.

124 posted on 10/17/2013 6:19:47 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: BBell
His actions deemed him to be reasonably suspicious.

He was walking down a country road with a rifle and his teenage son.

What actions made him suspicious?

125 posted on 10/17/2013 6:20:52 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 101stAirborneVet
Without a crime, there can be no detention, no seizure of the rifle, no restriction of the citizen in any way.

That is apparently to much for some to comprehend. That a police officer's authority has limits and exceeding those limits puts their actions outside the legal bounds of their duties.

126 posted on 10/17/2013 6:22:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: dragnet2

It’s simple. His attitude. Attitude is everything and his attitude towards the cops, who were responding to a call, was very confrontational. As I said before, you were not there and I was not there and the video does not show what led up to the confrontation. By the guys own admission the cop was being cordial. None of this would have happened had the guy not been such an a$$hole.


127 posted on 10/17/2013 6:24:11 PM PDT by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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To: 101stAirborneVet; BBell
The citizen asked,"Am I threatening you?"

The response from the government agent was: "Once I find out there is no issue".

So even the government agent admitted the had no, "Reasonable suspicion" about any crime.

128 posted on 10/17/2013 6:26:50 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: BBell
None of this would have happened had the guy not been such an a$$hole.

By your own admission, right here in black and white, you don't care if he violated any law. He deserved to be arrested because of his attitude with the police.

Absolutely stunning.

129 posted on 10/17/2013 6:27:21 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: 101stAirborneVet

I can’t argue with you. You have no sense of reality.


130 posted on 10/17/2013 6:28:34 PM PDT by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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To: BBell
Where on the video did he commit this crime?

If you could be specific.

His attitude. Attitude is everything

You seem a bit ignorant.

Once again,what crime was committed here?

131 posted on 10/17/2013 6:28:58 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 101stAirborneVet; BBell

BBell clearly does not understand the U.S. Constitution or Texas law.


132 posted on 10/17/2013 6:30:40 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

I’m not ignorant, just realistic.


133 posted on 10/17/2013 6:31:18 PM PDT by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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To: BBell

Then why are you evading the questions?


134 posted on 10/17/2013 6:32:29 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Sorry but I don’t live in la la land. And from what I can see the Constitution and Texas law have nothing to do with this case.


135 posted on 10/17/2013 6:33:02 PM PDT by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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To: BBell

What crime was committed here?


136 posted on 10/17/2013 6:34:18 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Interfering with the duties of a police officer. There, I answered you again.


137 posted on 10/17/2013 6:34:38 PM PDT by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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To: BBell
I’m not ignorant, just realistic.

Actually, no. You're a fascist. I don't mean that as a personal insult, but rather a description of your apparent ideology. You believe that the police ARE the law, rather than that the police enforce and tend to the law. You believe that the police determine your rights, rather than protect them.

You believe, evidently, that it is the men who hold the power, not the Consitution, and that the citizen ought not to question those men.

138 posted on 10/17/2013 6:34:58 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: 101stAirborneVet

You sound like an anarchist to me. I have a difficult time believing you were a police officer. You are telling me that if you got a call about a suspicious person with an AR-15 walking down the road you would ignore it?


139 posted on 10/17/2013 6:39:34 PM PDT by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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To: BBell
And from what I can see the Constitution and Texas law have nothing to do with this case.

The Constitution and the law may be irrelevant to you but in most courts they still have a passing interest in it. A fair number of FReepers think it's important too.

140 posted on 10/17/2013 6:39:40 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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