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Just secede already: The obstructionists arenít going anywhere. Maybe we should
Salon ^ | Oct. 20, 2013 | Chuck Thompson

Posted on 10/20/2013 10:35:52 AM PDT by steelhead_trout

We don't want to live in Ted Cruz's America. He doesn't like ours. Maybe a split really is inevitable — and right

Yes, I know Michele Bachmann is from Minnesota and Steve King is from Iowa, but all this proves is that in the 150 or so years since the Civil War, the vituperative Confederate agenda of anti-Americanism has managed to spread its irresistible redneck poison into benighted pockets across the country. Kind of like Waffle House.

But to deny that the current attack on the federal government isn’t part of the hidebound Confederate agenda is to ignore the people who have engineered it and whose sedition will be rewarded with reelection

Much as Kentucky’s Mitch McConnell did in 2010 when he said that the “single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president,” Meadows’ legislative gambit revealed a man and a party absorbed in a classic state of Southern pique. It’s a pathology sadly worthy of Calhoun and his whole sorry legacy of tantrum-throwing quack parliamentarians who want to continue enjoying all of the benefits that come with being part of the United States without having to make any of the necessary sacrifices or compromises.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ciao; goodriddance; moonbattery; secession
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Yes, this Chuck Thompson is a flaming moonbat, just dripping with contempt for anyone in Flyover Country, but even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
1 posted on 10/20/2013 10:35:53 AM PDT by steelhead_trout
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To: steelhead_trout

YES! Please, libland, GO AWAY!


2 posted on 10/20/2013 10:38:07 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: steelhead_trout

I really cannot figure out why we are always likened to Confederates. There are lots of minority people in our party and there would be more if the Left wasn’t so intimidating/scathing of the minorities who are Conservative.


3 posted on 10/20/2013 10:38:22 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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To: steelhead_trout

We need to convince the leftists that secession is a good idea and also their idea. Nothing is good or right unless they think of it first. So let them think that...


4 posted on 10/20/2013 10:39:59 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: originalbuckeye

It is an insult that resonates with libs in general and black libs in particular. Reason and rats are mutually exclusive.


5 posted on 10/20/2013 10:41:20 AM PDT by Jacquerie (An Article V amendment convention is our only hope.)
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To: steelhead_trout

We’re the confederates? Well then, let’s try for round 2 and see who comes out on top, shall we?


6 posted on 10/20/2013 10:41:51 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: steelhead_trout

let the libs secede


7 posted on 10/20/2013 10:42:37 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: steelhead_trout

Chuck is a Democrat, just like the KKK and Bull Connor and that woman who began Planned Parenthood in order to exterminate blacks.

No wonder he wants to secede.


8 posted on 10/20/2013 10:43:46 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: steelhead_trout

And he’s wrong now. Show him a red/blue map on a county or district scale and he’ll change his mind in a hurry.


9 posted on 10/20/2013 10:45:05 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: steelhead_trout
To paraphrase Mr. Buckley, I would rather be ruled by a day's customers at a Waffle House than by the staff of Salon.
10 posted on 10/20/2013 10:45:32 AM PDT by jimfree (In November 2016 my 13 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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To: steelhead_trout

CW2 Ping.

If Red State American secedes, who will feed the welfare parasites and other EBT ‘rats in the Blue urban zones?


11 posted on 10/20/2013 10:46:07 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Jacquerie

My impulse to these people is to exterminate them all, with no exception for kids, budgies and small kittens.

Ashes to ashes.


12 posted on 10/20/2013 10:46:23 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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To: steelhead_trout

If you drop the dripping sarcasm and the open hatred from the article it would have been have pretty decent and a lot shorter.


13 posted on 10/20/2013 10:47:46 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

“We need to convince the leftists that secession is a good idea and also their idea.”

BRAVO!!!


14 posted on 10/20/2013 10:48:46 AM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: steelhead_trout

We are incompatible and if you would go your own way and let us have America as she has always been, then you
on the left can create your GOD-less and socialist entity instead of destroying ours. I refuse to live in your dream world and I will never accept it. Best we divide.


15 posted on 10/20/2013 10:50:11 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: central_va

I prefer purge.

The northeast should be purged from America. The trash should be just thrown out


16 posted on 10/20/2013 10:51:08 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: originalbuckeye
I really cannot figure out why we are always likened to Confederates.

It's an Alinsky tactic, the subtext of which is that TEA Party Conservatives are necessarily racist by associating the movement with the Confederacy, never mind the overlooked fact that the old time secessionists and slave owners were all Democrats, and that it was the Republican Party that ended slavery and then fought the Ku Klux Klan (again all Democrats).

17 posted on 10/20/2013 10:52:34 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: steelhead_trout

All the Red Counties should be self-sufficient after the Blue Counties leave. Sounds like a great plan!

Texas could survive very nicely alone, but we would have to have a severe border policy with fences and land mines to keep from being over-run by the starving Left and their Dependent Class.


18 posted on 10/20/2013 10:53:16 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: bert
Actually a the 6 New England states should be merged into ONE state with 2 senators. They get 12 now!!!!
19 posted on 10/20/2013 10:54:51 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: steelhead_trout

I’m dedicated to BLUE STATES in accordance to the 1980 and 1984 election wins by Ronald Reagan.

The alphabet network TV “news” shows flipped the colors, after that, in order to confuse west coast voters.

RED STATES despite the liberal media effort and propaganda, remain COMMUNIST / LEFTIST / PROGRESSIVE / SOCIALIST !


20 posted on 10/20/2013 10:55:36 AM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: steelhead_trout

Geographically, we only need two states. LibState would be made up of the nation’s metropolitan areas and Right-State would be everywhere else. So be it we have islands.


21 posted on 10/20/2013 10:56:37 AM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: central_va

Actually, separating the territory once known as “the United States of America” into distinct republics reflecting the political disposition of the majority within those districts, and following Congressional districts rather than state boundaries, would result in one nearly contiguous “red” electoral country, and a number of much smaller “blue” electoral republics, clustered on the East and West coasts, and part of the so-called “Rust Belt” surrounding the Great Lakes. There may also be some really isolated pockets in and around cities notorious for their ultra-progressive public universities or their history as the state capital, but their very isolation would soon result in their dissolution as a separate republic and reabsorption into the “red” country.

The “blue” republics would soon find, that without the flow of revenue and tribute from the surrounding “red” country, they sink into a real cesspool of despair and anarchy, much like Detroit already has become.

“America” has come to mean some very different things to any number of people, and today, there is little agreement as to just what constitutes “American ideals”.


22 posted on 10/20/2013 10:56:50 AM PDT by alloysteel (Men may not always be capable of evil, but they are always capable of incompetence.)
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To: Timber Rattler

The Confederacy wasn’t racist, it was status quo. Lincoln was one of the biggest racist there ever was. Need I quote Lincoln on his plan to deport ALL blacks or how he thought the black man would always be the inferior?


23 posted on 10/20/2013 10:57:21 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: steelhead_trout

They hate freedom and they aren’t changing.


24 posted on 10/20/2013 10:57:38 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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To: central_va
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They can have any state where they have a majority of counties.
25 posted on 10/20/2013 10:57:47 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: central_va

Now that’s a good thought


26 posted on 10/20/2013 10:58:46 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: steelhead_trout
I would be LOL at this nonsense if it were not so pervasive and pernicious. The ultra extremists have turned the language on its heads and are calling mainstream Americans all the things THEY are-extremist, scary, haters, name-callers, religious fanatics (their religion being progressivism).

Talk about projection!!! Their psychological projectiion is enough to cause physical projection.

vaudine

27 posted on 10/20/2013 10:59:23 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: steelhead_trout

More horse sh*t from Salon.

Yawn.


28 posted on 10/20/2013 10:59:25 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: steelhead_trout

They are always soooo......superior. rofl


29 posted on 10/20/2013 10:59:27 AM PDT by sheana
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To: central_va
Actually a the 6 New England states should be merged into ONE state with 2 senators. They get 12 now!!!!

Brilliant idea....we can call it "Libernetticut".

30 posted on 10/20/2013 10:59:38 AM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: steelhead_trout
Thompson is too stupid to realize that many conservatives grew up as members of the left, and we know it from the inside. The New Left was rabidly anti-American, and those are the people who are now running the media and the Democratic Party. To cite just one example, it was Rev. Wright, Obama's "spiritual father," who casually spoke of AmeriKKKa and "our chickens coming home to roost" on 9/11. One more: Michelle Obama, the First Lady, said that her husband's election was the first time she ever felt proud to be an American.

As for secession, I clearly recall all the talk among libs that the Pacific Northwest should split off from America and become a separate country called Cascadia.

And then there was all the talk by libs when Bush was president about how they were going to leave the country, how he wasn't their president, and how ashamed they were of a country that elected people like him and Reagan, that we are a nation of morons, etc.
31 posted on 10/20/2013 11:00:26 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: cripplecreek

Session to be taken seriously, some would argue it can never be taken seriously, has to be done state by state. A lot of northerners know that and know they would be “left behind” in Socialist Utopia™. Sorry but move you asses South.


32 posted on 10/20/2013 11:00:59 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: alloysteel

If I 95 and I 81 were shut down at the Virginia line, The blue zone would be in trouble


33 posted on 10/20/2013 11:03:58 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: steelhead_trout
This guy (the author) has gone full retard, in public. Sheesh, trying to equate us with all the bad connotations of the Confederacy etc.

If any libtards want to secede they are more than welcome to take their liberal cesspools and go. Here's the thing though. There will be no monetary aide, in fact no aide of any kind coming from real America. There will be no immigration for you. Once you've decided to live in the progressive liberal paradise you create, you will be staying there. You will not be allowed to change your mind and immigrate back to real America, ever. We don't want your idiotic, unworkable ideas and ideals to pollute our political landscape ever again.

So, any libtards want to go live in someplace like that? I'm sure there are a few true believers out there. But most libtards, once they realize they won't be allowed to live off the successes and fruits of others' labor, lordly distributing it as they see fit...well, they back out fast.

34 posted on 10/20/2013 11:04:05 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: First_Salute

It is indeed no accident that the red and blue state idea was deliberately flipped to eliminate the association between liberalism and communism. “Red” always indicated leftism.


35 posted on 10/20/2013 11:04:09 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: central_va
That's not what I was saying at all. Yes, in the mid-19th century most white American were racist, even Lincoln, and I know all about his colonization plan.

The point here is that the libs are trying to convince low info voters that the southern Confederacy was the only racist element in America at that time, and that by associating the TEA Party movement with it, they are planting seeds in the backs of those voters minds that the TEA Party is in effect racist too, when it clearly is not.

36 posted on 10/20/2013 11:04:13 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: steelhead_trout

“They won’t let us enslave them! Why are they so mean?!”


37 posted on 10/20/2013 11:05:09 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: steelhead_trout

They can have fiat currency and the Fed; we’ll have PM based currency.
They can keep the welfare cases, bureaucrats, and government teachers; we’ll have productive citizens, rule of law, and home and private schools
They can have government granted rights; we’ll have natural rights.
They can have victim disarmament zones; we’ll have the right to defend ourselves with firearms.
It won’t take long to see which society will prosper.


38 posted on 10/20/2013 11:05:32 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: vaudine

The food producers should simply starve them until all dead.

The land could be used.


39 posted on 10/20/2013 11:06:45 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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To: steelhead_trout
We don't want to live in Ted Cruz's America. He doesn't like ours. Maybe a split really is inevitable — and right"

Fair enough, Mr. Thompson. I prefer subtraction, so we're kicking you and yours out of the Union. Ya' all can come back in when you've learned to stand on your own hind legs, without sucking the life blood out of what few producers this nation has left. Also, you will have to swear allegiance to "one nation under God," without wincing, or crossing yer' fingers behind yer' back. Adios.
40 posted on 10/20/2013 11:07:29 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: txrefugee
Texas would most likely become a world super power within a generation!
41 posted on 10/20/2013 11:08:45 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: ThunderSleeps; All
This guy (the author) has gone full retard, in public. Sheesh, trying to equate us with all the bad connotations of the Confederacy etc.

He's not the only, one, and there have been enough other insinuations that I have no doubt that it has actually gone out as a lib talking point somewhere, possibly on another hidden Journolist-type forum.

This column from WaPo last week was one of the first to come right out and make that accusation:

The Rise of the New Confederacy

42 posted on 10/20/2013 11:09:09 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Hardraade

Hey! I LIKE budgies and small kittens! They don’t grow up to be welfare parasites and hate-filled criminals.


43 posted on 10/20/2013 11:09:24 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: Timber Rattler

Well don’t fall for it. They can only hook the 2 things together if you let them. Blacks think every white in the south is a cracker racist. That is never going to change. You will never be on the same side with the majority of blacks - ever. The Confederate Flag and other false connotations do not exacerbate the racist situation. With 50 years of AA and defacto reparations, the situation HAS ONLY GOTTEN WORSE.


44 posted on 10/20/2013 11:09:41 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Steve_Seattle

Yeah there were idiots here in Michigan who wanted to secede when Bush was president. I took particular joy in reminding them that they’re surrounded by enemies within the state that they would have to deal with first.


45 posted on 10/20/2013 11:10:43 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: steelhead_trout

0bamaland, where adherence to the Constitution is considered ‘Anti-American’.


46 posted on 10/20/2013 11:12:53 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: steelhead_trout

Separate from the communist, Obama-voting, dopehead, fag-marriage “blue states?”

Yes, I’d support and vote for that in a split-second.


47 posted on 10/20/2013 11:13:13 AM PDT by greene66
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To: steelhead_trout

The SOUTH was right?! Oh, yeah, I guess it was!


48 posted on 10/20/2013 11:15:44 AM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: 2001convSVT

With A&M’s Manziel as Secretary of the Army?


49 posted on 10/20/2013 11:19:18 AM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: central_va
Well don’t fall for it.

Well, I'm not, but the low information, badly educated voters are, and I'm seeing this ugly little "racist" meme getting spread around by the libs everywhere, particularly in social media. That's how the "new Confederacy" column came up on my radar, a lib friend of mine posted it thinking that it was a fine piece of writing.

50 posted on 10/20/2013 11:20:48 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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