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The NFL is Running a Billion-Dollar Con
Pittsburgh Magazine ^ | October 2013 | SEAN CONBOY

Posted on 10/22/2013 5:07:34 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen

Chances are good that you or someone you know recently purchased groceries, talked to a mechanic or opened a medical bill and felt a pang of existential dread so visceral that it triggered a physical sickness.

This is what it means to be alive in America in 2013. To work hard, always do the right thing and still commute home at the end of the day under a charcoal cloud of professional uncertainty, political harakiri and increasingly unfathomable “service fees” visa-vis your monthly cable bill.

Yet the incomprehensibly rich NFL team owners are busy crafting a neat little narrative for you, the fan: They need more of your tax dollars to build their lavish stadiums.

Not that you haven’t already been generous. Since 1923, 186 professional sports stadiums have been built at a cost of $53 billion. Taxpayers have chipped in to the tune of $32 billion — 61 percent of the total.

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghmagazine.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nfl

1 posted on 10/22/2013 5:07:34 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen
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To: Kid Shelleen

Put these NFL owners in the “Looters” category.


2 posted on 10/22/2013 5:17:55 PM PDT by griswold3 (Post-Christian America is living on borrowed moral heritage)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Atlanta is getting soaked to the tune of about $200 million for the Falcons; new playground and, as the article mentioned, get the privilige of paying ‘seat licenses’ as well.

Of course they’ve only paid off half of the bonds for the 20 year old Georgia Dome.


3 posted on 10/22/2013 5:18:39 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: griswold3

Every year I watch less NFL football. I passed on re-upping for Red Zone, this year.


4 posted on 10/22/2013 5:19:06 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Kid Shelleen

I haven’t watched an NFL game in years.


5 posted on 10/22/2013 5:19:13 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: griswold3

Reliant stadium was built at a price tag of 1billion... Roughly. The owner put up 700 million of his own money.


6 posted on 10/22/2013 5:20:46 PM PDT by Frapster (frak)
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To: Kid Shelleen
After winning two Super Bowls folks here were just fine with a new stadium.

I agree football stadiums don't do much to bolster the economy, but Coors Field led to the development of a new entertainment district (most of which had been part of skid row) that runs year round.

7 posted on 10/22/2013 5:23:34 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: griswold3

dont we love it, paying for others’s sick emotional gambling obsessions with football.

this is Rome, and i hate it.


8 posted on 10/22/2013 5:23:59 PM PDT by lavaroise
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To: Kid Shelleen

I would have only 4 teams, and green screen different numbers and names on them, so they could pretend to be from different cities.


9 posted on 10/22/2013 5:39:03 PM PDT by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar will soon be repeated.)
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To: dfwgator

Same here. When I do turn it on, it’s out of habit. I haven’t watched a game all the way through in about three years. And I used to be a season ticket holder.


10 posted on 10/22/2013 5:39:26 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (If you don't stand up, you don't stand a chance.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

I just as soon watch paint dry, as watch a stupid football pro game.


11 posted on 10/22/2013 5:48:48 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: Kid Shelleen

I thought this was going to be about the lack of HGH testing or scamming folks into watching a game where 300+ lb behemoths collapse on a loose ball and then get up and do a fruity gyrating celebration dance to commemorate their massive achievement.

Freegards


12 posted on 10/22/2013 5:59:28 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Kid Shelleen

There is a reason that the Super Bowl is in New Jersey in February instead of sunny San Diego. San Diego voters will not vot vote for another public built football stadium so the NFL (besides not so subtly whispering that LA needs a team) harrumphs about lack of hotel rooms, transit problems etc......

Extortion plain and simple.


13 posted on 10/22/2013 6:09:53 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: Kid Shelleen

There is a reason that the Super Bowl is in New Jersey in February instead of sunny San Diego. San Diego voters will not vot vote for another public built football stadium so the NFL (besides not so subtly whispering that LA needs a team) harrumph about hotel rooms, transit problems etc......

Extortion plain and simple.


14 posted on 10/22/2013 6:12:20 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: dfwgator

“Every year I watch less NFL football. I passed on re-upping for Red Zone, this year.”
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That is one thing that it would not be possible for me to do less of.


15 posted on 10/22/2013 6:15:04 PM PDT by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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To: AlexW

“I just as soon watch paint dry, as watch a stupid football pro game.”
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At least watching paint dry is worth what the ticket cost.


16 posted on 10/22/2013 6:16:25 PM PDT by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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To: dfwgator
Ran into a retired Oiler in Virginia a couple years back.
Was great to reminisce about the good ole days. I know nothing
about todays game.
17 posted on 10/22/2013 6:22:48 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Kid Shelleen
The NFL doesn't see the correlation between the middle class and blue collar Americans (who watch the games) getting screwed by the government, liberal activists complaining about the team nicknames and exploiting players with head injuries, and a new generation of parents forbidding their young boys from playing football. All of this is turning into a perfect storm.

I used to enjoy watching the Packers play. But we have a government that's out of control and people losing their jobs left and right. Why the F would I want to spend $50 on food and beer watching the game when I can grab another part-time job to survive? Like Rush said, football will become extinct within 20 years.

18 posted on 10/22/2013 6:24:02 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Kansas City got a relative bargain at 300 million for a renovation...and the Chiefs pay 450k a year in rent.

I went to the Metrodome when it was new...how on earth is it already obsolete? The new Giants/Jets stadium is in the same spot as the old one and seats the same number of people as the old one....the old one isn’t even paid off yet...how on earth could they justify paying a clean Billion for a new one?

LA is about to build a billion plus stadium...for years this was used to give believability to the threat that teams like the Vikings might actually move. Now I think it may replace candlestick.

And don’t forget Minnesota just ponied up for a new baseball stadium. It never ends.


19 posted on 10/22/2013 6:41:13 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Kid Shelleen
They did this by painting critics of the deal, who had the audacity to suggest that $500 million of their money might be better spent on social services or education, as the lazy poor.

Author failed to consider the most appropriate alternative: that the denizens not have their income stripped away by anyone for any purpose.

The nest has a mini bar, catered foie gras and a designated stooge to clean your eyeglasses for you.

Here he implies Jerry Jones' son in law is a "designated stooge." Wrong.

Hey, I resent public financing of sports teams (happened to me) but the author's voice here detracts from what could be valid criticisms. So much for "sports journalism."

20 posted on 10/22/2013 6:41:16 PM PDT by Dysart (Obamacare: "We are losing money on every subscriber-- but we will make it up in volume!")
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To: Kid Shelleen
I have the following recommendations for the NFL:

I think this would improve the situation for the NFL owners.
21 posted on 10/22/2013 6:44:41 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: MaxMax

Who would have thought that Bum Phillips and Bud Adams would perish within days of each other.


22 posted on 10/22/2013 6:50:59 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Pan_Yan
Yes, "personal seat licenses" are one of the gret scams ever. Phil Mushnick of the New York Post has been really tough on them.

Basically, a PSL is a "license" to buy season tickets. Beofre you buy the tickets, you pay a fee to be allowed to buy.

Con job if there ever was one.

23 posted on 10/22/2013 6:53:43 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Pan_Yan
Yes, "personal seat licenses" are one of the gret scams ever. Phil Mushnick of the New York Post has been really tough on them.

Basically, a PSL is a "license" to buy season tickets. Before you buy the tickets, you pay a fee to be allowed to buy.

Con job if there ever was one.

24 posted on 10/22/2013 6:53:55 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Remember how the NFL virtually crucified the late Jack Kent Cooke for daring to build his own stadium with his own money?


25 posted on 10/22/2013 6:56:17 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: AlexW
I still very much relish football games in person. I can observe the full context and strategy of the game; especially substitution packages, which I don't get to follow on the idiot box because they feel the need to endlessly loop replays between all live action to assuage short attention spans and plain ignorant viewers.

TCU games are fun, but then that is about the total spectacle and not merely the game. The excitement, the flavor, even the exorbitantly priced vittles are delightful.

Now the TV experience mostly gives me a headache due to the over-production and ubiquitous and intrusive monetization inserts. And it's getting worse each year. I'm sure- tho I cannot prove it- most in-game producers/directors are meth freaks. When I watch a game on the idiot box anymore it's casually while I'm otherwise occupied with other tasks and the sound muted.

26 posted on 10/22/2013 7:00:04 PM PDT by Dysart (Obamacare: "We are losing money on every subscriber-- but we will make it up in volume!")
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To: Fai Mao

Ditto

It’s gonna be interesting to see the value of a franchise when the do gooders succeed in switching them to flag football instead of full contact.

The lawyers ultimately will do the price of an NFL franchise what they spent decades doing to the tobacco industry.


27 posted on 10/22/2013 7:05:48 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: TBP
Yes, "personal seat licenses" are one of the gret scams ever.

Anymore it's mostly the corporate crowd who attends, and they just allocate costs of the circus to their customers as entertainment XP, bundle it and pass it duly along.

Of course there are always the common fools- the unthinking fanatics with more disposable income than sense. I'm pretty sure P.T. Barnum would be proud.

28 posted on 10/22/2013 7:10:09 PM PDT by Dysart (Obamacare: "We are losing money on every subscriber-- but we will make it up in volume!")
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To: Cyman

I can’t wait for a massive winter storm to hit NJ on SB weekend. Serves the dumbasses right. The SB should always, ALWAYS be played in the south in an open air stadium, no roofs or retractable roofs. That even means you Jerry Jones. Give me the Rose Bowl, Orange Bowl, Arizona, San Diego etc. any day. College stadiums are fine also.

Oh, and kickoff should be at 3:00 PM.


29 posted on 10/22/2013 7:39:33 PM PDT by slouper (LWRC M6A2)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Who ISN’T running a billion dollar con these days? Well okay, the fedgov is running a trillion dollar one, so we should just let the pikers have their billion.


30 posted on 10/22/2013 8:05:42 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: dfwgator

...and, Who would have thought that at mid year the Chiefs would be the only undefeated team in the game?


31 posted on 10/22/2013 8:12:26 PM PDT by KC Burke (Officially since Memorial Day they are the Gimmie-crat Party.h)
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To: Kid Shelleen

would you suggest, for one second, that the taxpayers did not benefit immensley from these stadiums???????hundreds of thousands of fans flocking to your city....spending zillions of dollars on food, lodging, nonsense, booze, etc...please...the taxpayers make an investment...it usually works out just fine. The Hoosier dome in Indianapolis wasn’t even dusty and they tore it down and built an even more fantastis stadium nearby....fear not, they know what they are doing...


32 posted on 10/22/2013 8:27:28 PM PDT by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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? Like Rush said, football will become extinct within 20 years.

no, that's how long it will take you to get a season ticket to the Packers!!!!....I don't think that there is a game in the NFL that isn't normally sold out.

33 posted on 10/22/2013 8:33:45 PM PDT by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: Kid Shelleen

just one more thing on the subject.....Frank sinatra did not build his own auditoriums...movie stars do not build their own theaters, race car drivers do not build their own racetracks,horse racers did not build Churchhill downs, the team owners cannot take the stadium with them...the stadium belongs to the community where it is located....the team leaves....bye-bye...we have such a great stadium that we will entice another team to come here....See Milwaukee county stadium and the Braves/Brewers.


34 posted on 10/22/2013 8:47:55 PM PDT by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: slouper

Nah - football is an all weather sport - the fans need to accept it and suck it up. Personally I think the colleges should do a 16 team playoff series at home for the higher seed and the superbowl should shuffle through every NFL stadium on a rotating basis. The whole “hold the bowls in the south” routine only punishes those teams who are built for the winter season and rewards those built for the south. If you don’t believe it then prove it by sending the southern teams up north for the next 3 years of bowl competitions. I’m sure there are plenty of stadiums that can support the same size crowds. Besides why should southern fans get more chances for those tickets due to travel budgets.


35 posted on 10/22/2013 8:55:24 PM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Cyman

“San Diego voters will not vote for another public built football stadium so the NFL (besides not so subtly whispering that LA needs a team) harrumph about hotel rooms, transit problems etc...Extortion plain and simple.”

Here in NJ we weren’t given a vote on it. I think they may have been able to fund a lot of it because the new Giants Stadium is also used by a Canadian Football League team (the Jets).


36 posted on 10/23/2013 2:41:27 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: slouper

for a real football game, the super bowls should be played at Green Bay, Chicago, Pittsburg, Buffalo, or Boston.


37 posted on 10/23/2013 3:57:44 AM PDT by X Fretensis
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To: slouper
Cordially, nuts to that.

My idea of a great football game is:

Bears, Packers, Giants, or Steelers;

Played outdoors in December;

In freezing drizzle or snow showers;

Final score, 7-3.

38 posted on 10/23/2013 6:09:46 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Mi tio es enfermo, pero la carretera es verde!)
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To: slouper

I prefer they go back to how they did it before the merger. Championship game is at the team with the best record.

I mean, everyone remembers the “Ice Bowl”. I think it would be awesome.


39 posted on 10/23/2013 7:24:42 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: terycarl
I don't think that there is a game in the NFL that isn't normally sold out.

Unless it's the Jaguars.

40 posted on 10/23/2013 7:26:37 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Kid Shelleen

Haven’t watched a SuperBowl since Riggins and the Redskins...I don’t really give a flying fig.


41 posted on 10/23/2013 7:31:07 AM PDT by chasio649
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To: reed13k

Okay, I can understand the whole travel budget thing, but really, Going to the Superbowl, no matter where it’s played is an expense most of us would plan and save for if we could ever afford to do it at all. As for northern teams being accustomed to the cold, hell man, I bet they would be drooling at the prospect of playing in Miami or San Diego instead of some frozen north gulag.

Seriously.


42 posted on 10/24/2013 6:52:14 PM PDT by slouper (LWRC M6A2)
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To: slouper

Actually northern teams are built differently physically due to the climate - true of NFL teams too. There’s a reason beyond fan base for home field advantage and its rare the southern teams go north. I have known big linemen who play better in the cold then the heat and its due to build not stamina.


43 posted on 10/24/2013 6:57:40 PM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothings)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Those soccer teams in Europe, Manchester United, Real Madrid, they may revamp the stadiums but they rarely build brand new stadiums. Something is wrong with this picture. Although I enjoy the NFL, I’d vote down any stadium deal if I were in a position to. That said, some of those stadiums still serve multiple purposes, it would be something to study as well.


44 posted on 10/25/2013 4:41:29 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

One case where Rush may not be right, I wish he were, he’s saying the concussions will shut down the NFL or at least, they’ll take out kickoffs and it will become a namby-pamby game.


45 posted on 10/25/2013 4:44:26 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: Kid Shelleen

Actually caught a CFL game the other night. That might be the way to go, it’s probably almost as good as the NFL. They only have about 8 or 10 teams.


46 posted on 10/25/2013 4:45:49 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: Cyman
San Diego voters will not vot vote for another public built football stadium so the NFL (besides not so subtly whispering that LA needs a team)...

A pretty idle threat, since L.A.'s not going to build them a stadium, either. They've been trying for at least fifteen years, but there's simply no support for spending a dime of government money for another sports team.

47 posted on 10/25/2013 5:05:54 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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