Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Democrats disturbed by Obamacare rollout -- and GOP criticism
Los Angeles Times ^ | October 23, 2013 | By Lisa Mascaro

Posted on 10/23/2013 11:59:48 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

President Obama’s Democratic allies in Congress said Wednesday they are “not happy” about the glitch-filled rollout of the healthcare law, but criticized Republicans for trying to kill Obamacare rather than fix it.

“It’s very disturbing to see that the website hasn't performed as well as we would like,” said Rep. Xavier Becerra (D-Calif.), the No. 4 Democrat in the House, emerging from a private briefing with administration officials. “I think it's even more disturbing when individuals intentionally work against the American people and the rights that they have now secured to access quality, affordable health care.”

“It's also not just about a website: Health insurance is about health security for millions and millions of Americans who heretofore have not had the ability to afford health insurance,” said Rep. Joe Crowley (D-N.Y.). “Under the Affordable Care Act, that's about to change for them. Republicans are looking for problems to exploit, we Democrats are looking for problems to fix and to find solutions for.”

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: failure; journalism; obamacare; obamacarefraud; obamacarerollout; rinocare
There you have it. Their new talking points: It's the Republicans fault!!
1 posted on 10/23/2013 11:59:48 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Oldeconomybuyer

2 posted on 10/23/2013 12:00:55 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FReepers; Patriots; FRiends







Please Make Your Donations Today.


You Can Help Drastically Shorten FReepathons by Donating Monthly!
VERY Generous FReeper Sponsors are donating $10 for every New Monthly Donor!
Please Sign Up to Donate Monthly!

3 posted on 10/23/2013 12:01:19 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Travis McGee

But wait! Act now and you will receive another, free!


4 posted on 10/23/2013 12:02:59 PM PDT by Toespi
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Oldeconomybuyer

Republicans should be going on and on about how they tried to delay this but the Democrats shutdown the government to force it on us all.


5 posted on 10/23/2013 12:04:10 PM PDT by freerepublicchat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Oldeconomybuyer
Not only is the GOP NOT willing to fine tune Obamacare to make it more popular but even worse:

Democrats Newest :”It’s all Republicans fault because they are rooting for Obama-care’s failure”

Gasp!!!

6 posted on 10/23/2013 12:05:29 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Toespi

Just pay shipping and handling fees.


7 posted on 10/23/2013 12:05:38 PM PDT by Gadsden1st
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Oldeconomybuyer

Democrats are disturbed.

Period.


8 posted on 10/23/2013 12:06:11 PM PDT by Da Coyote
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Travis McGee

The only difference between Shamwow!, replacement windows/vinyl siding and music CD clubs like Columbia House
and BarryCare.

None of them can penalize you and sic debt collectors on you if you say, “No, thanks.”


9 posted on 10/23/2013 12:06:24 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Oldeconomybuyer

“rights that they have now secured to access quality, affordable health care”

Really? They think they have “secured” the “right” to free “quality” healthcare on demand?

So, if I go buy car insurance, that guarantees me the right to a car?


10 posted on 10/23/2013 12:07:48 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Oldeconomybuyer

The GOP hasn’t tried to kill it. Only a handful of brave conservatives
have tried to kill it. The GOP Rino’s funded it. They, along with the Rats
own it!


11 posted on 10/23/2013 12:08:24 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: freerepublicchat
Republicans should be going on and on ....

Wouldn't get a second of air time. The media wouldn't be able to hear them with their ears being muffled by Obamas skinny butt cheeks.

12 posted on 10/23/2013 12:08:28 PM PDT by digger48
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Oldeconomybuyer

We don’t want to fix a pile of poo; if you poor a bottle of perfume over poo-it’s still poo!

Republicans MUST R E P E A L! We will not fix socialism..!


13 posted on 10/23/2013 12:09:19 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Is John Boehner the Neville Chamberlain of American Politics?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Oldeconomybuyer

Republicans are trying to kill Obamacare

will morph from a democrat talking point to a republican election ad as more an more people become fed up with Obamacare.


14 posted on 10/23/2013 12:12:34 PM PDT by kidd (No blood for ego)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Oldeconomybuyer

Should’ve read it before ya passed it.

OWN IT YA MORONS!


15 posted on 10/23/2013 12:13:19 PM PDT by Ray76 (Get thee behind me, Obama.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: sickoflibs

We need to say,

“It’s not Republicans’ fault that a “Health Insurance Monopoly” that makes insurance companies RICH does so by making healthy people POOR!”

“It is the Democrats who betrayed American here, all by themselves.”


16 posted on 10/23/2013 12:15:38 PM PDT by pfony1 (Add just 6 GOP Senators and we "bury" Harry)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Oldeconomybuyer

Fix it? We didn’t even want it! No Republican voted for it - it is the Dems’ albatross to wear proudly.


17 posted on 10/23/2013 12:15:49 PM PDT by PuzzledInTX
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Travis McGee

Buy two and they’ll throw in a subscription to LifeLock.


18 posted on 10/23/2013 12:16:14 PM PDT by Stentor
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Oldeconomybuyer
In the immortal words of Colin Powell (paraphrased):

Once you break it, you own it. You are going to be the proud owner of healthcare for over 300 million people.

You just can't tap dance your way around that, Mr. President.

19 posted on 10/23/2013 12:18:08 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Oldeconomybuyer
“I think it's even more disturbing when individuals intentionally work against the American people and the rights that they have now secured to access quality, affordable health care.”

And what about the rights of the American people who now can no longer afford insurance and will be among the uninsured in January?

20 posted on 10/23/2013 12:18:39 PM PDT by PuzzledInTX
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: pfony1
RE :”We need to say,
“It’s not Republicans’ fault that a “Health Insurance Monopoly” that makes insurance companies RICH does so by making healthy people POOR!”
“It is the Democrats who betrayed American here, all by themselves.”

Dems did in fact create Obamacare by themselves.
2012 when Obama rollled out all the freebees, the candy, and promised to provide millions of uninsured Americans health care for ‘free’ just by taxing away some Romneys money they dont need, then Dems arguments went better.

But the rubber meets the road finally and if milllions are thrown off of their health policies and forced to exchanges where the coverage is worse and the costs are higher,
then the magic show run ends and reality sets in.

Obama is just as frustrated as we are , well not really *we*, but them.

21 posted on 10/23/2013 12:23:25 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Oldeconomybuyer
Let me get this straight: sure, the 0bamacare rollout was an unmitigated disaster, but the real problem is that the Republicans pointed it out. Yeah, that'll fly. I'm guessing somebody didn't focus-group that little howler before belching it out.

Some have suggested Sebelius should be fired for the problems, but Democrats said Wednesday there was ample time for officials to be held accountable.

Absolutely. Plenty of time to hold officials accountable, just after they get through holding officials accountable for the IRS abuses, Benghazi, and Fast and Furious. Any day now.

22 posted on 10/23/2013 12:24:48 PM PDT by Billthedrill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Democrats have amassed seventy-plus years of undermining and sabotaging our country’s economy, national security and freedom, and they want Republicans to help them fix a program that never should have been passed in the first place. THEY alone botched the implementation . . . NUTS! In other words, they want Republican help to further F’ up our country. What kind of idiotic logic is that? Of course there will be Republicans who will want to run to their rescue. . . and insanity will continue to rule the day.

When are we going to start ruthlessly ridiculing these clowns???


23 posted on 10/23/2013 12:25:39 PM PDT by RatRipper (The political left are utterly evil and corrupt)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Oldeconomybuyer
I see.. No Repubs voted for Crapcare yet they're responsible for fixing it.

Nice twist RATs. What's next, Reparations for slavery you fought to keep?

24 posted on 10/23/2013 12:28:26 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Oldeconomybuyer
While desperate Democrats attempt to blame Republicans for opposing Obamacare and wanting to see it fail, they will have a far more difficult time trying to blame Republicans when Americans realize they've been conned and are seeing their health care insurance evaporate or the cost brought up to unconscionable levels. Blaming the Republicans won't fly, then, as Republicans have been against Obamacare from the jump. Even the RINO's were smart enough to not vote for the PPACA. As has been rightly stated, Democrats own Obamacare and they will suffer for passing this overreaching piece of socialism. I can see the real possibility of winning a Republican senate majority in 2014, based on the public's revulsion to Obamacare.
25 posted on 10/23/2013 12:30:27 PM PDT by Jim Scott
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RatRipper
The RATs want the Repubs to stick their finger in the shit-pie so they can be blamed for all of it.
And the way things are going, Boehner just may taste it.
26 posted on 10/23/2013 12:31:17 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Oldeconomybuyer
the rights that they have now secured to access quality, affordable health care.”

conferred upon us by Lord Obama?



this stooge is bound to climb the ladder inside the regime very shortly


27 posted on 10/23/2013 12:33:49 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PuzzledInTX

To “start all over” is to admit that NOTHING was learned from the disastrous, mandatory Nationalization of 1/6 th of America’s Economy.

Are any of us FReepers really that STUPID ?!


28 posted on 10/23/2013 12:38:40 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Marxist Obama'care' Insurance violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: RatRipper; All

Blaming others for one’s own actions or inactions is a direct indicator of someone who refuses to take responsibility for their own actions or lack of actions.

Two year old children often behave that way: Barry, Holder, Reid, Pelosi, Mrs. Bill Clinton, McCain - - - did I leave anybody out?


29 posted on 10/23/2013 12:39:54 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Marxist Obama'care' Insurance violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: RatRipper; sickoflibs

“When are we going to start ruthlessly ridiculing these clowns???”

Well..... you two said it best. It’s so easy to see from our side. Cruzin and Lee tried and started the ball rolling. But you just KNOW the likes of Tokyo Rove and Bonehead, no chin Ditch Mitch are hiding under their desks, amassing the “let’s be nice to the dems again”. If it were me, I’d ripe them a new one every day.

Grab a microphone and DO IT, you wimpy GOPe!!!!


30 posted on 10/23/2013 12:42:07 PM PDT by WaterWeWaitinFor (Would Winston Churchill stand still for all this nonsense?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Oldeconomybuyer
Just get GEEK SQUAD over there!

They can even take over your computer and fix the problem over the phone.....how great is that!

31 posted on 10/23/2013 12:53:23 PM PDT by hummingbird (Don't be afraid of the big words.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: freerepublicchat

They should, but they aren’t , and yet they are getting blamed for it anyway.

Republicans are like Sponges, they sit there and absorb all the crap tossed at them without response.


32 posted on 10/23/2013 12:55:29 PM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: WaterWeWaitinFor; RatRipper

I am enjoying the hell out of this.

The shutdown fight was very depressing because we all knew how it would end, just not exactly when.

In this one Obama is the center of all the crisis stories.

I love to see them the Dems made to dance, instead GOP getting the whippings


33 posted on 10/23/2013 12:55:38 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: WaterWeWaitinFor

Somebody needs to photoshop a dunce hat or a beanie with a propeller on Obama in the clip where he is lecturing about how good ObamaCare is. I aways thought “Zer0Care” was a better name for it. Turns out it was prophetic.

And then there is Jay (Run Forrest Run) Gump Carney who can’t stand still long enough to answer a legitimate question. I am beginning to expect him to start prefacing all of his answers with, “Like my Mama always says. . . .”


34 posted on 10/23/2013 1:05:58 PM PDT by RatRipper (The political left are utterly evil and corrupt)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Graewoulf

None of us are but unfortunately Zero and his crew are.


35 posted on 10/23/2013 1:08:43 PM PDT by darkangel82
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Oldeconomybuyer

If the GOP (or some other patriotic group wishing to derail ObamaCare) wish to stop this monstrosity, there is, right now, an easy way to do so. The airwaves should be blanketed with ads, directed at the young, healthy folks that have to sign up in big numbers. These ads should simply advise them (truthfully) that the ACA severely limits the IRS’s tools to collect the penalty for not obtaining compliant coverage. All it can do is deduct the penalty from any refunds due the taxpayer. The IRS is prohibited by the law from filing criminal charges or, as I understand it, even placing a lien or levy on the taxpayer’s bank accounts or property. It may accumulate these penalties, and assess interest charges, but the penalty still can only be collected from refunds due.

So the way to topple this unconstitutional, budget-busting power-grab by the dems: convince millions of young Americans to forego coverage and march down to their payroll office to fill out forms to increase dependents claimed to make sure that no refund is due (or lower estimated tax payments for individuals not subject to withholding). Many will probably want to talk to their tax advisor to make sure they do not underpay by so much that they incur penalties.)

An additional attraction of this strategy: If millions of young American taxpayers have their withholding reduced or cut their estimated tax payments, the Treasury’s receipts from withholding would decline precipitously, substantially increasing borrowing requirements.

If this offensive was mounted by the GOP, it could be accompanied by a pledge to repeal Obama are and simultaneously pass legislation refunding any penalties collected and dissolving any unpaid penalties and accumulated interest. A new GOP president could make signing such legislation her first order of business in January 2017.


36 posted on 10/23/2013 1:30:45 PM PDT by Spartan79 (I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health, and the liberties of man.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Oldeconomybuyer

Corrected title: All Democrats disturbed!


37 posted on 10/23/2013 1:35:49 PM PDT by AFreeBird
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Spartan79

I think it can be simpler than that. All the healthy youths just opt out, pay the measly $95 and move on. The insurance companies have to have a substantial number of these youths to buy insurance. When that happens, the (un)affordable becomes very (un)affordable and it all spirals out of control.


38 posted on 10/23/2013 2:00:15 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Producing Talk Show Prep since 1998.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: VRW Conspirator

The penalty is potentially significantly more than $95 - it is $95 or 1% of the taxpayer’s income, whichever is greater (to a maximum of the lowest price bronze plan available to the taxpayer); the penalty is increased further in 2015 and again in 2016, and thereafter is indexed to inflation. And it is also substantially higher for two-person and full-family plans. Except for relatively high-income taxpayers, however, you are correct. It might indeed be less expensive to pay the penalty and be done with the whole mess - at least in 2014 and even 2015.


39 posted on 10/23/2013 7:54:12 PM PDT by Spartan79 (I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health, and the liberties of man.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson