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Senator Proposes Law: 'If You Like Your Health Plan, You Can Keep It Act'
The Weekly Standard ^ | Oct 25, 2013 | DANIEL HALPER

Posted on 10/25/2013 9:45:13 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike

Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin will propose a new law next week called: "If You Like Your Health Plan, You Can Keep It Act."

“One of the most important promises made by President Obama and Democrat congressional leadership to promote the Affordable Care Act was that Americans who were satisfied with their health plans could keep them. That promise has been broken. More than a million Americans have been notified that the plans they like with the coverage they have chosen have been canceled. Millions more Americans will have the plans of their choice canceled in months to come,” says Senator Johnson in a statement.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: obamacaredefrauds; obamacarelies; rinjognson; youcankeepit
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1 posted on 10/25/2013 9:45:13 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I like it!


2 posted on 10/25/2013 9:46:56 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

It’s not often that a Marxist dictatorship allows the proles to have options; no doubt Obama will do all in his power to override this thing.


3 posted on 10/25/2013 9:49:16 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

In order to do this they would need to disassemble Obamacare from top to bottom. The fact is that nobody is forcibly taking policies away from people. The insurance companies are finding themselves in the position where they can’t be profitable with existing policies.


4 posted on 10/25/2013 9:49:48 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Why is he helping Democrats out of THEIR mess?

Buck up Senator. The Dems wanted it their way. They got their way. They have been incredibly nasty. They made their ball and chain, let them wear it.


5 posted on 10/25/2013 9:51:24 AM PDT by Ray76 (Remember the Barrycades!)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Seriously, Senator Johnson?

Insurance companies are already cancelling policies. A new law isn’t going to help that. The old policies do not meet the minimum requirements Obamacare regulates.

Yesterday we saw a thread that Rep. Michelle Bachmann was trying to get a law passed that would make Obamacare voluntary.

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Can these people not foresee the results of these kinds of law? It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see the ridiculousness of these proposals.


6 posted on 10/25/2013 9:52:09 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

LOL....


7 posted on 10/25/2013 9:52:19 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

All of the crap they added to policies would have to go.


8 posted on 10/25/2013 9:52:32 AM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

How about “If you like your income, you can keep it”.

Or “If you like your faith”,
“if you like your independence”,
“If you like your land”,
“If you like your home protection”,
“If you like your children...”

this is the boiled down essence of the coercive kleptocracy.

There is nothing they can’t promise to leave alone and then take anyway.


9 posted on 10/25/2013 9:53:18 AM PDT by epluribus_2 (he had the best mom - ever.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Trying to close the barn door when the horse has already galloped out of the building.


10 posted on 10/25/2013 9:53:37 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

then it will be the mean insurance company’s fault. Like Hillarycare villified big pharma. Big pharma actually loves obamacare.


11 posted on 10/25/2013 9:54:19 AM PDT by epluribus_2 (he had the best mom - ever.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
What are the odds that it will get out of the Senate then the house and make it to the President to sign. Obama is the most shameless liar. he won't care to appear as a hypocrite and not sign this bill and the media would never hold his feet to the fire for it. Jon Stewart would wet his pants in a fit of rage and that would be enough to inoculate Obama from any kind of media critique.
12 posted on 10/25/2013 9:54:39 AM PDT by incredulous joe ("No road is too long with good company" Turkish Proverb)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Throw in the $2500 annual premium reduction that O’ Liar also promised...and you’ve got my vote, Senator.


13 posted on 10/25/2013 9:55:31 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
The insurance companies are finding themselves in the position where they can’t be profitable with existing policies.

Senators like Johnson are complete idiots. He was elected with Tea Party support but he apparently doesn't understand that if Obamacare remains in place, there will soon be no companies left with which to negotiate healthcare policies. Notwithstanding any magic wand-waving law he gets passed.

14 posted on 10/25/2013 9:56:34 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: Hotlanta Mike

That’s freaking excellent!
Let the scumbag rats vote against it.
I hope somebody in the House picks up this ball, because Reid won’t go near it.


15 posted on 10/25/2013 9:56:52 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Hotlanta Mike

how can you keep a policy that is no longer sold?


16 posted on 10/25/2013 9:56:52 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
More than a million Americans have been notified that the plans they like with the coverage they have chosen have been canceled.

Obama said people could keep their coverage if they liked it. But insurance companies are doing away with the plans they liked. So does the law force companies to keep offering the plans that they cancelled?

17 posted on 10/25/2013 9:57:02 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I see that Johnson has finally jumped into action after Mark Levin burned his butt two weeks ago.


18 posted on 10/25/2013 9:57:28 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: MissMagnolia

Exactly!

Quick fixes these Congresscritters are proposing won’t work.

They are like trying to seal up the tear in the Titanic with bubblegum.


19 posted on 10/25/2013 9:59:11 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
The fact is that nobody is forcibly taking policies away from people.

Plans that don't meet the standards imposed by the ACA are henceforth illegal and must be terminated. So, yes, somebody IS forcibly taking policies away from people.

20 posted on 10/25/2013 9:59:55 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
"Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin"

Nice try but no cigar. Leave it alone for now Ron. The popcorn just came out and I am enjoying this way too much right now.
Go find Mr Cruz and apologize to him. I bet he is popping corn right now too.

21 posted on 10/25/2013 10:00:20 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Ted Cruz is looking smarter every day. I could waltz across Texas with Sara Palin. . .)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

There is no way that dingy, filthy scum-bag hairy will ever allow this legislation to see the light of day. NFW


22 posted on 10/25/2013 10:01:30 AM PDT by USS Alaska (If I could...I would.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I’d be interested to know how this would work. If he’s forcing more regulations on insurance companies, that’s only going to make matters worse.

But if his goal is to do away with Obamacare’s requirement that pre-existing policies adhere to their newly imposed standards, which is causing the cancellations, that would be a step in the right direction.

And it would also be the demise of Obamacare.


23 posted on 10/25/2013 10:01:56 AM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Johnson's full of crap, it can't be done without repealing every word of Obamacare.

Even then the costs imposed in shifting over and then back will necessarily cause an increase in premiums for no change coverage, so you still can't keep your policy, as price was part of the policy.

24 posted on 10/25/2013 10:04:11 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike; All

Constitutionally indefensible Obamacare is an enormous document, made to be deliberately confusing. This was undoubtedly so that activists could interpret it any way that they wanted to.

And as big and ambiguous as it already is, Constitution-ignoring lawmakers are effectively making it even bigger with this additional legislation.


25 posted on 10/25/2013 10:04:51 AM PDT by Amendment10
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26 posted on 10/25/2013 10:07:15 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: DeaconRed
Pass the pitchforks...
27 posted on 10/25/2013 10:07:55 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Navy Patriot
David Gregory on Obamacare rollout: “Is this too big, too complicated for federal govt
28 posted on 10/25/2013 10:07:57 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Where was he with this weeks ago??


29 posted on 10/25/2013 10:09:16 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Defunding does work!! Anyone remember fate of the border fence????)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

The only option is R E P E A L !

Anything else is just putting perfume on a pile of poo that can’t be fixed!


30 posted on 10/25/2013 10:09:57 AM PDT by JSDude1 (Is John Boehner the Neville Chamberlain of American Politics?)
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To: TomGuy

What’s wrong with taking the mandate out of Obamacare? If people didn’t have to buy it, policies that didn’t meet Obamacare requirements would emerge again. The longer the Obamacare mandate is in place, the worse the damage is going to be to medical care in the US.


31 posted on 10/25/2013 10:10:43 AM PDT by grania
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Exactly. Such a law is unworkable.


32 posted on 10/25/2013 10:10:47 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I think this is a great slap at obammy.


33 posted on 10/25/2013 10:17:56 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the Libs say we are.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
The insurance companies are finding themselves in the position where they can’t be profitable with existing policies.

Not entirely true. Obamacare law mandates certain levels of coverage. If a plan does not offer, for example, full mental health coverage, it's no longer legally available to offer. The insurance companies have no choice but to cancel "non-compliant" (and in most case, cost-saving, plans.

34 posted on 10/25/2013 10:19:00 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (You know something's really wrong when the salesman keeps selling long after the close.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
The insurance companies are finding themselves in the position where they can’t be profitable with existing policies.

Exactly!

Passing a new law without first overturning the "Affordable" Care Act would not result in people being able to keep their current health plans. Obamacare is forcing the health plans to change, whether people want them to or not.

Of course, Obama knew it was going to happen even as he was making his ridiculous promise.

35 posted on 10/25/2013 10:30:04 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: MissMagnolia

...and both the barn and the horse are on fire.


36 posted on 10/25/2013 10:31:24 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

These people go through the motions, when they know they are only jack*** off.


37 posted on 10/25/2013 10:32:45 AM PDT by boomop1 (term limits will only save this country.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Johnson, IIRC, voted to surrender to Harry Reid. This is straight of the Marco Rubio School Of Conservative Window-Dressing.

Start explaining, Senator Johnson.


38 posted on 10/25/2013 10:33:53 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
In order to do this they would need to disassemble Obamacare from top to bottom. The fact is that nobody is forcibly taking policies away from people. The insurance companies are finding themselves in the position where they can’t be profitable with existing policies.

All Congress would have to do is issue the following short legislation:

"Any health insurance plan or policy in effect before Dec 31, 2013 may continue in effect, and be renewed indefinitely, any words in the Affordable Care Act notwithstanding".

39 posted on 10/25/2013 10:35:27 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

About time someone is using his own words against him.

Hannity did a reasonable job last night on his panel show.


Side note.

For those of you that didn’t see it or aren’t aware of this Sean has gifted the fired Obamacare worker he spoke to on his phone conversation a years full salary.

Well done, truly compassionate, and putting your money where your mouth is.

Hooray Sean Hannity


40 posted on 10/25/2013 10:36:26 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: WayneS

LOL!


41 posted on 10/25/2013 10:45:03 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Beautiful - let the Democrats explain why it is a bad idea.


42 posted on 10/25/2013 10:47:43 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: grania
What’s wrong with taking the mandate out of Obamacare?

The individual mandates are supposed to support it for the first few years. Without those, it crashes and burns. You want that, but most of the pols don't.
43 posted on 10/25/2013 10:55:41 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: Timber Rattler

He’s trying to rehabilitate himself after what he did to Cruz. That’s all this is. He’s making the talk show rounds this morning making a fool out of himself IMO. But the true believers will lap it up, accuse people of joining a “circular firing squad”, and assert that Ron is on our side but he just has different tactics. This must be one of them. Call me unimpressed.


44 posted on 10/25/2013 11:19:50 AM PDT by conservativegranny
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Not in total. Some of the plan cost increases are because the plans are mandated to cover a lot of specific services, like pregnancy care...even if you’re 60 years old...and a man. So if this law says the insurance companies can keep offering plans without that mandated stuff, it’s a good thing.

I do like this proposal. But obviously it doesn’t eliminate the fact that new sign-ups will still be under the new plans with the stupid mandates, so it’s not a cure-all for even one part of Barrycare.


45 posted on 10/25/2013 11:23:09 AM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: TomGuy
(without those (the mandate) it crashes and burns

Sure does. The thing is, that's the way to put the pols on the hook. "You want Obamacare? You can have Obamacare. But it won't be a mandate." Remind them that when Obama was campaigning against hillary, he promised his health program would be voluntary. How could anyone vote against that and be re-elected?

I'd particularly enjoy watching the RINOs squirm. Methinks a real lot of them actually want Obamacare since their corporate paymasters in insurance and other industries have found a way to profit from it.

46 posted on 10/25/2013 11:23:25 AM PDT by grania
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To: TomGuy
Seriously, Senator Johnson? Insurance companies are already cancelling policies. A new law isn’t going to help that. The old policies do not meet the minimum requirements Obamacare regulates.

That's the point of the law -- allow people to go back to whatever plan they had before the mandate, and essentially be waivered from the new requirements (both purchaser and seller).

It's brilliant, politically, because it takes Obama's promise and shoves it right back down his throat. It also will resonate with anyone who lost their plan.

47 posted on 10/25/2013 11:26:42 AM PDT by kevkrom (It's not "immigration reform", it's an "amnesty bill". Take back the language!)
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To: Venturer
All of the crap they added to policies would have to go.

Which would be a good thing! If only a small percentage of plans have to cover all that mandated crap, even if the costs were evened out aross all plans, we'd all be paying less.

But you can't underestimate the PR benefit of having Obama veto a law like this either, or the Dems voting against it. This is the kind of tactic we need to take advantage of the Dems disastrous coup attempt on the health care industry. This is an ad you can run in the next campaign.

48 posted on 10/25/2013 11:28:55 AM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: DoodleDawg
So does the law force companies to keep offering the plans that they cancelled?

If they had the option, I'm sure some would if they thought it enticed their customers to stay. That's how the free market works.

49 posted on 10/25/2013 11:31:11 AM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I especially like it that it is entitled such that it points out that Obama was lying.


50 posted on 10/25/2013 11:33:20 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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