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Rush on Medicaid could spell trouble for ObamaCare’s health
fox news ^ | 10/25/2013 | By Judson Berger

Posted on 10/25/2013 7:10:07 PM PDT by tobyhill

While virtually all the ObamaCare focus is trained on the program's dysfunctional website, another problem could be emerging -- in states where individuals are able to sign up, far more are enrolling in Medicaid than private plans.

For now, the statistics are spotty. The Obama administration still hasn't provided figures on how many people have successfully enrolled through the federally run exchanges. Some, but not all, states have provided their own relatively up-to-date figures.

But for those that have, the lopsided numbers show Medicaid is getting the lion's share of enrollees.

In Washington state, more than 35,000 people have signed up for coverage since Oct. 1. Of them, just 4,500 went into private plans. Roughly 31,000 signed up for Medicaid -- with coverage kicking in sometime between now and Jan. 1.

The director of the state's Health Care Authority said they were "pleased by the strong response of Medicaid-eligible residents."

But the imbalance -- if it does not even out in the months to come -- could create problems for private insurance companies which are relying on a major influx of new and healthy customers to make the system hum.

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1 posted on 10/25/2013 7:10:07 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

That’s the idea. Single payer healthcare. Medicaid is the door that will open to it.


2 posted on 10/25/2013 7:12:06 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (I miss you, Whitey! (4-15-2001 - 10-12-2012) It has been a year, rest in peace, pretty girl!)
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To: tobyhill

They think it’s bad now, wait until the buffoons on da Hill pass their Freeway to Amnesty bill. It’s all over. 50 million Mexican Nationals are going to cost us mucho dinero.


3 posted on 10/25/2013 7:13:45 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare should have been tested on politicians before being released to the public!)
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To: tobyhill

These people have a printing press, and they know how to use it. I don’t believe they have any concern about additional people signing up for Medicaid. It only guarantees them more Democrat votes in future elections, which has been their goal all along.


4 posted on 10/25/2013 7:14:24 PM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: Hoodat

Exactly. And now these people will be asked to vote absentee, wrecking to the core our electoral system.


5 posted on 10/25/2013 7:18:21 PM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: tobyhill
In Washington state, more than 35,000 people have signed up for coverage since Oct. 1. Of them, just 4,500 went into private plans.

This is incorrect unless you only count the private plan enrollees who have paid for their plans over two months in advance. Who pays for things before the bill is due?

The more reasonable count shows more people having enrolled in non-Medicaid plans than in Medicaid, but not yet paid, by a small margin.

6 posted on 10/25/2013 7:24:10 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Hoodat

at some point the dollar will crash and it all will come to a halt.

Speed doesn’t kill, it’s the sudden stops that’ll get ya.

They are simply picking up speed to the crash.


7 posted on 10/25/2013 7:26:00 PM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: Nowhere Man

Isn’t Medicaid already about broke?

How can it withstand this surge?


8 posted on 10/25/2013 7:30:30 PM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: Venturer
How can it withstand this surge?

Relax....we can just tax the rich.

Oh, by the way, congratulations. You are now considered rich!

9 posted on 10/25/2013 7:34:58 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: cableguymn

They are simply picking up speed to the crash.


Maybe the “crash” is what they wanted all along? Nationalize everything, declare martial law and shred the Constitution to ensure that “The People” keep getting their welfare checks & EBT cards.


10 posted on 10/25/2013 7:45:41 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: tobyhill

I heard this on Lou Dobbs earlier.

But I don’t understand if people’s income is low enough to qualify for Medicaid why weren’t they sighned up before? What am I missing?


11 posted on 10/25/2013 8:05:47 PM PDT by Paulie
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To: tobyhill
...in states where individuals are able to sign up, far more are enrolling in Medicaid than private plans.

Like clockwork

12 posted on 10/25/2013 8:07:58 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Producing Talk Show Prep since 1998.)
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13 posted on 10/25/2013 8:12:39 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: tobyhill
While it's nice to see Fox covering it, watching CBS do so is positively delicious.
14 posted on 10/25/2013 8:14:36 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Nowhere Man
That’s the idea. Single payer healthcare. Medicaid is the door that will open to it.

True. But the expectation was for a relatively gradual decline occurring until so much time had passed that there was no way to roll back to the previous way of doing things AND a credible political argument could be made that "well, we tried going halfway, and that doesn't work either, so we NEED single payer.

We're not talking gradual decline here. We are talking rapid, even immediate, collapse of the system. At a time when the collapse can be firmly pegged on the government's intrusion into market economics.
15 posted on 10/25/2013 8:18:17 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Paulie

The ACA includes a Medicare expansion. More people are now eligible that were not before.


16 posted on 10/25/2013 8:22:29 PM PDT by AndrewB (FUBO)
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To: AndrewB

Medicaid that is.....


17 posted on 10/25/2013 8:23:43 PM PDT by AndrewB (FUBO)
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To: AndrewB

I thought medicaid was state and medicare federal?

Isn’t it better going to the state level?


18 posted on 10/25/2013 8:40:54 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (The zombies here elected alcee hastings)
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To: tobyhill

Yeah, if Rush lost so much of his wealth to be forced into Medicaid, we’d all be screwed :-D


19 posted on 10/25/2013 8:46:00 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Impeach We Much!)
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To: AndrewB

“The ACA includes a Medicare expansion. More people are now eligible that were not before.”

Plus many uninsured low income people who can’t afford insurance likely fear being in violation of the new law if they don’t sign up for Medicaid and remain uninsured.


20 posted on 10/25/2013 9:16:38 PM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: bicyclerepair
"I thought medicaid was state and medicare federal? Isn’t it better going to the state level?"

No. What Obama did was offer states $ if they allowed for more people to be ELIGIBLE for Medicaid, by increasing the income threshold for "eligibility". But the ACA was then over time going to STOP the Federal aid, and leave the rest for the States to pick up the costs.

This is why many Republican governors wanted no expansion of Medicaid, since they know how much they will be on the hook for paying.

And long before PPACA was a gleam in Obama's eye, some states had already expanded Medicaid. Like Tennessee with TennCare.

But the problem with TennCare is it's enormously expensive to run.

I forget the numbers but it is a huge chunk of the budget, and is not sustainable without large tax increases.

Now picture the same disaster nation-wide. Low tax or no-tax states are going to have to find a way to pay for this, and it will NOT be pretty.

This is the next battle and why you are seeing court challenges to ACA by individual states that want no part of this. For good reason.

21 posted on 10/25/2013 11:35:47 PM PDT by boop (I had no IDEA I'd be paying for Obamacare. I thought it would be a rich guy.)
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To: bicyclerepair

Medicaid is State gov but Obama bribed the States with extra money to cover the costs of the folks enrolling in Medicaid for a couple of years. Then the States will be left holding the bag and will have to increase taxes to pay for the increased Medicaid costs. WA does not have an income tax but the progressives have been longing for one forever, so it will be a selling point to the public to install one.
Obama also robbed old folks of Medicare money to pay for the increased Medicaid costs. That’s OK tho cuz all those folks need is a pill anyway, one that removes them permanently from the SS payroll.
Another thing no one is talking about is that most docs don’t accept Medicaid because it pays so little. The quality of Medicaid docs is probably not too good and the quantity will not be able to serve the extra patients.


22 posted on 10/25/2013 11:57:42 PM PDT by tinamina
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To: tobyhill

For a laugh, I went to the Cover California Website, the State Exchange.

To get a comparable HMO to my current coverage under COBRA, the Premium for the Wife and I is $1800 a month. Right now we are paying the COBRA Rate of $1375. The other plans offered are only slightly less but their Coverage is terrible in comparison.

The Drug and Co-pays are a little higher, but the out of pocket maximums are doubled from our current plan.

Again, these are comparisons to COBRA, not the Insurance we had before my Wife was laid off Work. The joy of Obamanomics continues to touch our lives, how wonderful.


23 posted on 10/26/2013 12:06:56 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Good news, Federal Funding for my Tagline has been restored. Crisis averted.)
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To: tobyhill

I don’t know, if Rush went on Medicaid he might be more supportive of Obamacare on his daily radio program.


24 posted on 11/19/2013 8:59:26 AM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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