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Santorum: Cruz Did More Harm than Good
National Review ^ | October 27, 2013 | Patrick Brennan

Posted on 10/28/2013 12:58:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Former senator Rick Santorum offered qualified praise for Senator Ted Cruz this morning, but said the freshman’s effort to force defunding of Obamacare ultimately did “more harm” than good. Santorum said this wasn’t Cruz’s “objective,” which he called “a laudable one,” but he criticized the senator for having no plan to get to his goal of defeating Obamacare.

Meet the Press host David Gregory asked him whether he thought Cruz could be considered “the face of the Republican party,” and Santorum said Cruz is “a face” of the party but not the leader, noting that parties out of the White House often have such a debate over leadership.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatism; cruz; gop; ricksantorum; tedcruz
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1 posted on 10/28/2013 12:58:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Santorum has run out of feet to shoot.


2 posted on 10/28/2013 1:01:57 AM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: TigersEye

I forgot, what was Santorum’s plan again?


3 posted on 10/28/2013 1:05:32 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Cruz is way ahead of Rick, plus Cruz has “bigger balls.”


4 posted on 10/28/2013 1:07:36 AM PDT by gattaca (“Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.” Mark Twain)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yup. There he is. When the chips are down, Santorum will always be a “Company” man....


5 posted on 10/28/2013 1:27:33 AM PDT by papertyger ("refusing to draw an inescapable conclusion does not qualify as a 'difference of opinion.'")
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To: papertyger
He is an Elsie Hillman (Pittsburgh) GOPe RINO. Always has been, always will be.
6 posted on 10/28/2013 1:30:46 AM PDT by prisoner6 ( FREEDOM!)
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To: LachlanMinnesota

The question is....is this Santorum version 1.0, Santorum version 2.0, Santorum version 3.0, or Santorum version 3.1 speaking?

In a debate between Cruz and Santorum...it’d be over after twelve minutes. Santorum might work ok in Penn as a state legislature guy or maybe governor...beyond that...he’s just not that capable.


7 posted on 10/28/2013 1:32:51 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

He’s lost and confused without his buddy Arlen Specter.


8 posted on 10/28/2013 1:33:17 AM PDT by BinaryBoy (Socialism is slavery.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
but he criticized the senator for having no plan to get to his goal of defeating Obamacare.
The plan was to inspire the Republicans to force Obama to compromise.
9 posted on 10/28/2013 1:34:42 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

‘...said the freshman’s effort to force defunding of Obamacare ultimately did “more harm” than good.’

Words of a chickensh*t.


10 posted on 10/28/2013 1:41:32 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Wrong, Rick.

Ted Cruz brought to light the evils of a blatantly Marxist grab at the nation’s health care system. How did stating the obvious qualify as “doing more harm than good,” especially now that no less than 10 Senate democrats are calling for a delay in the mandate tax?

And Ted Cruz’ actions didn’t “shut down” the government. The actions if Harry Reid and Barack Obama did.


11 posted on 10/28/2013 1:51:37 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: ScottinVA

if=of


12 posted on 10/28/2013 1:53:19 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I guess Santorum knows quite a lot about doing more harm than good.


13 posted on 10/28/2013 2:16:31 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: gattaca

and Cruz doesn’t wear a sweater vest..


14 posted on 10/28/2013 2:18:56 AM PDT by maddog55
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Et tu Rick?


15 posted on 10/28/2013 2:19:03 AM PDT by Bullish (The only real solution is to abolish liberal democrats forever)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Santorum needs a new sweater I guess.


16 posted on 10/28/2013 2:24:48 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’ve always thought of him as a wimp. Looks like I was right.


17 posted on 10/28/2013 2:26:55 AM PDT by McGruff (Mitch McConnell sold his soul for a Dam project.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

How can a guy who loses a Senate race in his own state have the nerve to go ahead and run for President in the first place.

Someone is telling this guy he’s the real thing.

Unfortunately, he is not. We really don’t need to hear from him anymore.

All the wannabes trash Cruz, who is the real deal. They have seen him speak and know they don’t hold a candle to this guy. Keep going Cruz.


18 posted on 10/28/2013 2:45:06 AM PDT by dan on the right
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To: Fresh Wind

What good has Santorum ever done?

Another Republican who cannot support the right side.


19 posted on 10/28/2013 2:45:54 AM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I support Cruz....Santorium supports ObamaCare


20 posted on 10/28/2013 2:47:22 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Fact Is: GOPe want ObamaCare.)
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To: maddog55

LOL, could be worse, could be a cardigan sweater like Jimmy Carter.


21 posted on 10/28/2013 2:50:44 AM PDT by gattaca ("If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything." Mark Twain)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Santorum: Cruz Did More Harm than Good

Santorum has done more harm than good to himself by being critical of Cruz.

22 posted on 10/28/2013 3:00:14 AM PDT by olezip (Time obliterates the fictions of opinion and confirms the decisions of nature. ~ Cicero)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Shut up, Rick.


23 posted on 10/28/2013 3:03:05 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

It looks like the GOP-e is sending out the B-team to attack Cruz - or could it be that the “look-at-me” crowd wants some face time, no matter the harm?


24 posted on 10/28/2013 3:08:22 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Santorum
25 posted on 10/28/2013 3:09:33 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Sadly BOTH!!

WHY....WHY do we Eat our OWN and NEVER...NEVER go after the DEMOCRATS?????? It Boggles my mind every time.

26 posted on 10/28/2013 3:11:59 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

Bump!


27 posted on 10/28/2013 3:13:43 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: TigersEye

Santorum is simply wrong on this issue. Cruz motivated a lot of people to get up and stand against the most oppressive government to ever exist in the U.S. and got the Democrats and liberals to take a harder look at Obamacare. We have been seeing a domino effect since then.


28 posted on 10/28/2013 3:29:23 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: TigersEye

Every time I read the name Santorum, my brain says scrotum.


29 posted on 10/28/2013 3:32:13 AM PDT by KingLudd
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Well it’s pretty clear now that Santorum is planning another run for the White House.


30 posted on 10/28/2013 3:38:45 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Rick is a one issue candidate. He actually hurts the party.

I sure hope he doesn’t run again.


31 posted on 10/28/2013 3:42:53 AM PDT by boycott
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I thought the plan was to get the Pubbies to vote against cloture.
32 posted on 10/28/2013 3:43:43 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Ann Archy
WHY....WHY do we Eat our OWN and NEVER...NEVER go after the DEMOCRATS?????? It Boggles my mind every time.

Great question, and remember, there were two, yes, just two of the candidates the last time around who did go after Democrats. Newt and Cain. In two different stages, maybe three stages, of the process. And when that was happening, either Newt or Cain was dominating the polls, because that is in fact what people want. Santorum was sneering at the other Republicans then too.

Of course, Cain imploded for other reasons, and then the Bad Newt emerged on the advice of his idiot consultants and the good Newt imploded in Florida and the race was effectively over.

33 posted on 10/28/2013 3:47:00 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Rick is the loser-candidate that the Establishment backs to keep the base in line—so that the full-fledged RINO gets the nomination. Santorum is done. We need people with principles and courage and Rick has neither.


34 posted on 10/28/2013 3:52:02 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

‘Sounds like santorum has chosen to side with obama instead of the Constitution. I hope all those RCs are listening—I’m sure Pelosi took him to heart.


35 posted on 10/28/2013 3:54:22 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Ann Archy

Was just discussing this article with hubby, and we were just saying this! 11th commandment has been tossed aside and it will destroy the GOP. They are too busy worrying about what each other is doing as opposed to destroying the Dems/socialists.


36 posted on 10/28/2013 4:01:26 AM PDT by marygam (I have extra ducktape for anyone who needs to wrap their head.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I wonder what they are dangling in front of him?


37 posted on 10/28/2013 4:10:03 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Another of the GOP-e's self-aggrandizing prigs weighs in on Ted Cruz. Rick has been a company man from the beginning, being the designated "pro-lifer" that gives a particular contingent of the icky ("common people") base the illusion that they have some sort of say in matters Republican. When the chips are down, Rick gets back into line fairly fast.

Mr. niteowl77

38 posted on 10/28/2013 4:13:39 AM PDT by niteowl77 ("If John McCain is not the actual bottom of the GOP barrel, the contents have really gone bad.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Santorum is a has-been.


39 posted on 10/28/2013 4:15:42 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I told the RNC that they wouldn’t get another dime of my contributions until I heard a public apology from McCain, P. King, Graham, and Rove, for bashing other Republicans on national TV. I’ll have to add Santorum to that list. BTW, I haven’t heard any apologies yet, but it stopped the nearly daily emails from various GOP committees.


40 posted on 10/28/2013 4:15:43 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

as I recall Santorum was eating Newt’s lunch and racking up impressive primary wins on a shoestsing budget, even closing in on the real limp wimp, Romney - who had an unlimited budget

and then Newt went commando on Santorum plus the RINOs went budget clamp on the upstart Rick before he had a chance to beat or at least embarrass Romney in Pennsylvania

Newt is no loyal conservative. Newt lashes out at anyone who threatens Newt. He is entertaining and a very smart sarcastic but angry man who is a great debater and pundit, but as election results showed- Newt is a fatally flawed candidate.

Cain was simply the conservatives’ Obama:
“Look we have a bracelet too!”
Clean, well dressed, well spoken ... Black.
The pizza magnate vs the Harvard Law professor


41 posted on 10/28/2013 4:25:35 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Newt ALWAYS IMPLODES, that's his problem!! He always sways to the left eventually.

I will NOT SUPPORT ANY Republican that goes after another REPUBLICAN AGAIN.....unless they go after McCain or Lindsey Grahamnesty.

42 posted on 10/28/2013 4:27:33 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Never was a supporter of his....


43 posted on 10/28/2013 4:28:04 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All

This fight amongst conservatives has been instigated on spurred on by the party too often refered to as Democrat when actually should be refferenced as demo-com since their 2012 convention and their booing of God’s return. Could have been controlled or moderated by the national central committee because those running it are quite content with the status quo.

The position that Cruz critics should be taking and there is a legion of those besides Santorum, that includes Larry Kudlow,Ron Johnson,and Dennis Praeger, to name a few.
Is this:
The malfunction of the AHCA website has caused the needed swing votes to delay its implimentation to come forward.
Was the knowledge of the downed and screwed up Obamacare website known about by key members of the Senate and House that includes the POTUS and his commisars well before the “shutdown” and kept from the Republican opposition? So that the effort by Cruz and Lee would face the fractious infighting now occuring?

Point being this should be the position taken by the NRCC but there’s no leadership there. Here’s another position they could have taken;

One of the rebuttals the GOPES (gop Elite Snobs) running things could have been using when the demo-coms the DC’s, (they’ill never call the democrats either, they can’t even call them socialist) began propagandizing dire results for a government shutdown. It would have been a perfect time to remind Americans how under the Democrats Viet Nam which became a defacto ward of the US under communist threat. from North Viet Nam. We supported their excursion into a democratic form of government. That was abandoned after a costly victory known as the TET offensive was portayed as a defeat by the the media and our support came to an ignominious end. Defunded by the very same democrats.responding to the academic socialist/ communists who today are now in control of that political party. Where hundreds of thousands of our supporters there died and 58,000 American lives were wasted because of our lack of political resolve..

Instead there’s been a sickening silence.


44 posted on 10/28/2013 4:29:36 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: silverleaf

Obama was NEVER a Harvard Law Professor...NEVER....he was a LECTURER!!


45 posted on 10/28/2013 4:30:18 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Rick was


46 posted on 10/28/2013 4:30:45 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

You are a liar rick and you have done more damage over the years than Cruz will in his entire life.


47 posted on 10/28/2013 4:31:35 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: LachlanMinnesota

WELFARE AND BIG GOVERNMENT BECAUSE RICK SAYS his religion compels him to redistribute wealth... he just calls it compassion like W did.


48 posted on 10/28/2013 4:32:55 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Ann Archy

oh I know that

but I am referring to the created persona which the libs (all over the world) hold true to this day

Obama: the Nobel Peace prize winner and smartest man in the world. I mean, who would vote for a pizza king over a really really smart sophisticated educated guy like obama?

I think we saw the end of that story.


49 posted on 10/28/2013 4:33:44 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Ann Archy

yes, but that is beside the point I was making....I was simply showing that going after Dems works...and yet.....our consultant class doesn’t realize that.

FTR, Newt was shamelessly attacked by every other person in the race twice...once when he was way up in Iowa by 14 points....and then again as he went to Florida ahead by double digits off of the huge win in SC. He reacted badly both times, but he never started a single fight with any other Republican candidate. The record is clear.


50 posted on 10/28/2013 4:37:20 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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