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Behind Roar of Politics, Whispers of Race Persist
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/31/us/politics/behind-roar-of-politics-whispers-of-race-persist.html?_r=0 ^ | October 30, 2013 | JOHN HARWOOD

Posted on 10/30/2013 1:21:11 PM PDT by SJackson

WASHINGTON — President Obama last week sought to turn attention from health care to immigration — in other words, from one racially divisive issue to another.

Whites tend to hold negative views of Obamacare, while blacks tend to like it. Specifically, 55 percent of whites, an NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll found this year, consider Mr. Obama’s health care law a bad idea, while 59 percent of blacks call it a good idea. On immigration, 51 percent of whites oppose legal status for illegal residents, but 63 percent of blacks and 76 percent of Hispanics favor it.

The statistics mirror the core philosophical division in Washington’s fierce battles over taxes, spending and debt. Whites say government does too much, while blacks and Hispanics say it should do more to meet people’s needs.

Those attitudes, and the continued growth of the nonwhite population, have produced this sometimes-overlooked result: American politics has grown increasingly polarized by race, as well as by party and ideology.

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Hmmm. He only mentions political issues as the racial dividers. Obamacare, immigration, doing "more to meet people's needs". Were I to look for underlying causes for political disagreement, I'd look to economic disparity, not race. Though one could speculate that whites, having higher average income and family net worth, thus are paying, at the cost of their needs and desires, for programs which "do more to meet people's needs". That's an economic issue, not a race issue.

Those whites that advocate for illegal immigration for white Europeans, but not Hispanics, or a boost in welfare and food stamps for whites, but not blacks or Hispanics, that's a racial decision. But those aren't arguments heard very much. As always the Times miss' the economic forest for the racial trees, if they even see the trees. More likely the leftist racial overlay applied to any issue.

1 posted on 10/30/2013 1:21:11 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
55 percent of whites, an NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll found this year, consider Mr. Obama’s health care law a bad idea, while 59 percent of blacks call it a good idea.

I'm actually surprised support for Obamacare among blacks is only 59%. I figured just tacking the name "Obama" onto anything would guarantee at least 80% approval in the black community...

2 posted on 10/30/2013 1:24:58 PM PDT by apillar
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To: SJackson

Do blacks hate Obama’s white half?


3 posted on 10/30/2013 1:25:30 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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To: SJackson

47 percent of Blacks are racists against the noble Hispanic.


4 posted on 10/30/2013 1:27:56 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (Defunding does work!! Anyone remember fate of the border fence????)
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To: SJackson

And who is doing the whispering? New York Times, Washington Post, Network News, etc. All agents of the Democratic Party.


5 posted on 10/30/2013 1:31:04 PM PDT by Old North State
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To: apillar

I agree....numbers should be way more, day bee happies on da govmn’t plantation


6 posted on 10/30/2013 1:33:36 PM PDT by Farnsworth (One Big Assed Mistake America)
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To: SJackson
Only the "New York Times Asylum and Home for the Mentally Ill" could find racism in disliking the fustercluk of Obamacare.
7 posted on 10/30/2013 1:39:37 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: SJackson

In other words, the NYTimes has lost control of the narrative so they are forced to use the Alinsky tactic of last resort, playing the race card.

In their world their policies can never be wrong so the only logical answer must be race.


8 posted on 10/30/2013 1:40:08 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: SJackson

I’d say race is a HUGE factor...

in Obama’s ability to get away with what he’s doing.


9 posted on 10/30/2013 1:42:53 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SJackson

“Whites tend to hold negative views of Obamacare, while blacks tend to like it.”
Because Whites are paying for it, and the others are getting insurance without paying for it.


10 posted on 10/30/2013 1:56:40 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: SJackson

Does anyone know what is the actual procedure for actually paying for Obamacare? Let’s say a person has signed up for insurance and they miss a couple of payments, actually decided they don’t really want insurance, get buyers remorse. What happens?


11 posted on 10/30/2013 2:02:39 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: SJackson

We will ONLY enter a “post racial” society when a majority of blacks vote for a white conservative over a black liberal. Until that time, no number of whites voting for a liberal black will prove anything. Ever.


12 posted on 10/30/2013 2:03:18 PM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: Toespi

Since the insurance is private, I presume you pay monthly/quarterly, whatever you choose. I presume 30 days after a missed payment you’re no longer covered. I acknowledge that’s common business practice/common sense, so I could well be wrong. I wonder if, once you’ve signed up and made a couple payments, gets you by March 15, if the company reports you to the IRS as non compliant. Again, common sense would require insurance for 12 months, not buying a policy by March 15, to avoid the tax.


13 posted on 10/30/2013 2:20:19 PM PDT by SJackson (As a black man, you know, Barack could get shot going to the gas station, Michelle on Chicago)
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To: LS

Won’t happen any time soon, any more that voting for a black conservative would mean anything to the race baiting left.


14 posted on 10/30/2013 2:22:50 PM PDT by SJackson (As a black man, you know, Barack could get shot going to the gas station, Michelle on Chicago)
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To: SJackson

Didn’t say it would. I said that and only that will be the true mark of a post-racial society.


15 posted on 10/30/2013 2:50:44 PM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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This is also going to be an Achilles heel. Let’s say there is going to be a certain percentage of deadbeats sign up, then don’t follow through and pay. This will also impact the success and numbers. The collection of funds will be almost impossible.


16 posted on 10/30/2013 2:50:56 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: SJackson
"meet people's needs"

That one, plus "social justice" "a country that looks like America" "speaking truth to power" are a number of leftist clichés that in reality mean absolutely nothing. Meet people's needs? I need a million dollar vacation home and a fleet of high end automobiles to cavort around. Are they going to meet my needs? I doubt it.

17 posted on 10/30/2013 2:57:58 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: SJackson

When all else fails, and their ManBoy is going down in flames, the NYT gets out the Race Drum and beats it as loudly as possible.


18 posted on 10/30/2013 3:40:31 PM PDT by bkopto (Obama and Biden are merely symptoms of a more profound, systemic disease in American body politic.)
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To: SJackson

This is so pathetic.

don’t like higher taxes? you are a racist.

This has gotten so tiring


19 posted on 10/30/2013 3:42:10 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Dr. Thorne

Maybe,The white half most certainly is priveleged.


20 posted on 10/30/2013 3:57:59 PM PDT by snappahead (if your gonna be dumb, you better be tough.)
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To: SJackson

The most vile, putrid, KKK racist, neo-Nazi publication in America is the New York Times.

The NYT is run by left-wing commie JINOs who hate Israel. It’s time to start telling the truth here on FR, and I say that as an independent contractor who has worked for a number of Israeli high-tech companies. We took on the Soros/BDS/ Palestinian/EU fascists who tried to boycott Israeli exports and kicked their Nazi asses.


21 posted on 10/30/2013 4:23:42 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave

Well, they’re not the KKK or the Reich, but history tells they wouldn’t raise much of an alarm if the KKK or the Reich were politically, shall I say, politically aligned. It’s run by an Episcopalean named Pinch. If I misspelled that, don’t care.


22 posted on 10/30/2013 4:35:28 PM PDT by SJackson (if you want to test a man’s character, give him power A Lincoln)
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To: bkopto

Impossible, not almost? They overplayed it. Don’t think the collapse will lead to single player. Sorry, payer. Could have if talented politicians were in charge.


23 posted on 10/30/2013 4:37:42 PM PDT by SJackson (if you want to test a man’s character, give him power A Lincoln)
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To: SJackson

“It’s run by an Episcopalean named Pinch.”

My error. I thought Pinch was a JINO. Thanks for the correction, SJackson, and thanks for the many interesting threads. Take care, buddy.


24 posted on 10/30/2013 5:11:18 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave

That was his dad. I’m told he gets very angry at any insinuation he’s Jewish, though I don’t think he’s a practicing Episcopalian any more either.


25 posted on 10/31/2013 7:23:44 AM PDT by SJackson (if you want to test a man’s character, give him power A Lincoln)
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