Skip to comments.Is It O.K. to Kill Cyclists?
Posted on 11/10/2013 6:57:21 PM PST by nickcarraway
EVERYBODY who knows me knows that I love cycling and that Im also completely freaked out by it. I got into the sport for middle-aged reasons: fat; creaky knees; the delusional vanity of tight shorts. Registering for a triathlon, I took my first ride in decades. Wind in my hair, smile on my face, I decided instantly that I would bike everywhere like all those beautiful hipster kids on fixies. Within minutes, however, I watched an S.U.V. hit another cyclist, and then I got my own front wheel stuck in a streetcar track, sending me to the pavement.
I made it home alive and bought a stationary bike trainer and workout DVDs with the ex-pro Robbie Ventura guiding virtual rides on Wisconsin farm roads, so that I could sweat safely in my California basement. Then I called my buddy Russ, one of 13,500 daily bike commuters in Washington, D.C. Russ swore cycling was harmless but confessed to awakening recently in a Level 4 trauma center, having been hit by a car he could not remember. Still, Russ insisted I could avoid harm by assuming that every driver was a mouth-breathing drug addict with a murderous hatred for cyclists.
The anecdotes mounted: my wifes childhood friend was cycling with Mom and Dad when a city truck killed her; two of my fathers law partners, maimed. I began noticing cyclist killed news articles, like one about Amelie Le Moullac, 24, pedaling inside a bike lane in San Franciscos SOMA district when a truck turned right and killed her. In these articles, I found a recurring phrase: to quote from The San Francisco Chronicle story about Ms. Le Moullac, The truck driver stayed at the scene and was not cited.
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Just like any activity, there are nice guys and douchebags.
>>Just the ones who dont seem to think that traffic signs and right-of-ways apply to them.
That would be the ones who wear tighty bicylcy outfits and Lance Armstrong astro-helmets.
If you time it right you can run them into a pole without actually hitting them.
” I see them ride by my shop and blow the stop sign.”
Ridgebury road and county route 93 near me.
Ridgebury rd has a stop sign.
CTY rte 93 is a 50 mph zone.
Almost tagged some idiot who decided that stop signs were for suckers.
I laid on the brakes and horn, rolled the window down, and pointed out the clearly visible stop sign that he by law must stop at.
He shrugged, and almost bought it again by crossing the nose of an F250 pickup.
Oh, he also neglected to use any kind of signals to warn others of intent.
I assume you meant clocked?
Or did you?
The gift of a perfectly correctly spelled word...
Funny, that's how I felt when I used to ride my Ducati. That attitude certainly saved me a number of times.
I’m in thread.
The typos will increase while I’m here or lurking.
If they insist on hugging that paint stripe, that required three feet of clearance may have to come from them ducking as I go by.
cyclists of all colors believe thgey never do anythiung wrong or cntribute o their accidents at all. the ones where i am are reckess and arrogant and drive like maniacs. weaving in and out of traffic and riding the lane lines.
i’m not excusing idiot car and truck drivers, because i see texters all the damn time and those not paying attention, but just because a bike is smaller doesn’t mean they’re innocent and awesome drivers that had no cause in their accident.
Two minutes of hate: the idiots with four wheel drive who believe they can do 70+ mph in the snow and magically stop on a dime somehow.
We’ve all seen them.
i love it when they ride two or three across and not go single file like they’re supposed to. /s
and to be fair i was a hardcore biker in high school and college. i got run off roads by semis on my rides several times. being older now, i will not bike on roads now because of drivers of any other vehicles not paying attention, bikers, cars, trucks, semis.
ding ding ding......
That would be libel. Slander would be rolling down your window, shaking your fist at the idiot forcing traffic to a crawl and yelling, “Ride your damned bike in your neighborhood you mouth-breathing, inconsiderate little faggot, and stay the hell off the boulevard!”
thank you, yes there are different kinds of bikers, just’like differnt kinds of motorcyclists and drivers. you run into the assholes so much you assume they’re all like that. you do have to assume that and drive accordingly though.
it’s sad you have to care more for an asshole’s life than the asshole does.
technical term you’re looking for here is “smushed”.
I was almost run down by a cyclist for the first time a few weeks ago. There is now a nice strip of sidewalk in the middle of Eighth Avenue, separating the bike lane from the rest of the avenue. Since the bike lanes are almost always deserted, I thought that would be a good place to wait for the light to change. But along came the bike out of hell while I was crossing over.
OK, I was technically crossing against the light, as cyclists routinely do. But Sadik-Kahn and her pal Bloomberg have so deformed the city streets that you can get pretty confused. I’ve already ranted about the baffling intersections where a two-way cross street meets an avenue. So glad she will be gone. So glad they will both be gone.
Big riotous Community Board meeting the other night with armies from both sides.
your yutes are different than the yutes around me, then.
it’s like they totally ignore the stop signs where i am. jut blows me away theycthink it doesn’t apply to them. they’d get real pissed if a car did that and cut them off.
The road doesn’t belong to you personally. You may feel justified in breaking the law because other people are lawfully using the road who aggravate you, but you aren’t. I ask those FReepers inclined to pray to offer devotions that you don’t end up on the wrong end of a negligent homicide.
There should be a season. And you get extra points if the indecent cyclist is a lawyer.
many don’t think they can do anything wrong, as cyclists. any accident must be someone else’s fault.
In CT, we must drive our cars allowing a 3-foot “safety zone” around cyclists ...problematic when the cyclists ride 2 abreast on a 2-lane road....forcing the car in to the other lane.
Many towns here, have bicycle lanes....and cyclists hardly ever stay in them.
yeah b/c all bikers are innocent sweet law-abiding and never cause accidents. bad analogy.
assholes and idiots will be assholes and idiots regardless of the vehicle they’re driving.
From all the FR threads containing posts from the Spandex/exercise haters, it sounds like many FReepers think it should be open season on cyclists.
Some of the comments about spreading tacks on the road, using their trucks as weapons have pissed me off no end.
Seen plenty on any vehicle you can imagine.
Snowmobiles and atv’s included.
Switching from cell phone
As a cyclist who avoids roads whenever possible -- which is "always" except for a few short, wide connecting roads between trails or bike paths, it burns me up to have to renegotiate the vehicle code at every intersection where some blue-hair thinks she's doing me a favor by waving me through a right of way I don't have.
Why do I have to do this?
Because of a handful of d0uchebags who don't obey the vehicle code. Let's face it: most people -- including the so-called "professional drivers" commenting on this thread are CRAPPY drivers. They don't know how to drive very well even when the vehicle is commanding 100% of their attention, which is never never. They're distracted by eating, phoning, texting, arguing with their mates, disciplining their kids, drinking, getting high ... Now add to that the aggravation of a few near misses with idiots and they feel completely justified in talking about maiming or killing cyclists.
A lot of this could be ameliorated if police would stop issuing tickets to motorists who're 15 miles over the speed limit, and issue citations to bicyclists who are in flagrant violation of the vehicle code or common sense.
Here are some violations the cops give a pass to all the time:
If motorists would just see police issuing citations for these flagrant violations, the heat level would go way down, the spandex class might learn something, and everybody's life would be a lot more pleasant. Especially mine. I don't appreciate the mindset created by negligent bicyclists any more than the idiots who think they'd be justified in killing someone over their momentary impatience.
Lol, too late!
You’re infected with typo virus now!
Yeah, this thing is a trip to type on sometimes.
The “helpful suggestions” in the center bar are bizarre and amusing.
Makes posting an adventure.
The bolded part is what I always did when cycling on the road. And I always cycled at a moderate pace so that I could stay in control of the bike and avoid serious spills even when I encountered road hazards for bicycles like grates or debris.
I have only seen a cop yell at a cyclist once.
A young kid who wasn’t wearing a helmet.
I'm lucky in that with the exception of the first two miles through my subdivision, I can ride the 14 miles to work entirely on a bike path that parallels the road. If I had to ride on the shoulder I probably wouldn't do it. These are very busy 45-55 mph roads and while there was a time when that didn't bother me a bit, that was many years ago.
In PA, helmets are not mandatory. Obeying the vehicle code is.
I like being alive.
Bounced off the hood of a camaro once.
One of the predmore twins tried running me down with his camaro.
He kinda botched it up and merely sent me rolling over the hood of his car.
After I grabbed my bike and booked down a nearby trail, I heard him backing up and trying to drive his camaro down the path behind me.
“Welcome to Port Jervis NY!”
Of course it is not okay, but it’d be their fault.
I had to pick him up from jail the next day, and take him to get his bike back.
Eventually, the DUI charge got dropped, but he had to pay the ticket for running a red light. On a bicycle.
opened my apt screen door one day and nailed a bicycles riding in the hallway was funny he was so pissed off at me, but a sign in the common area said NO bike riding in the halls.... though i was going to have to go to the rental office and ask for a new screen door...
Yup my sentiments exactly.
I don’t dislike cyclists, just those who aren’t polite and abuse our traffic ways (that were made for motor vehicles)!
No Bicycle Riding, right above a bicycle rack.
J@ck@sses on this and other conservative forums that advocate violence are also a problem. Idiot cyclist deserve tickets or may even be responsible for their own demise but the public doesn't deserve childish suggestions of running others over.
Further, many of the posters on this thread cast a poor reflection on FR. This sort of nonsense is perfect for discrediting conservatives. Do you think there aren't leftist equivalents to DUfunnies?
OK pal, no issue with most of your rants, but this one:
Just where would you have them pass you? Perhaps walking their bike and groveling at your vehicular superiority?
Have you ever ridden a bicycle on public roads? All the exercise haters screech about cyclists not staying in bike paths, having never tried riding in one.
If you had, you would have seen all the broken glass and fast food debris from car and truck drivers that pollute the "bike lane". For much of some roads, riding there is a ticket to flat tires.
Moving over to avoid glass is something that has to be done. Understand that the bike you approach is not a steamship and may have to undertake defensive maneuvers from road debris.
I have scars from a flat tire at speed from some @sshole's broken bottle. Don't tell me about staying in bike lanes.
When does Caligula go bike riding?
I know someone that got an RUI. Really. Talk about hitting rock bottom.
Yep. I had a tire get cut so bad by glass I couldn’t fix it, so now I run Gatorskins on my road bike, and don’t care if they weigh a few grams more.
I am one of them.
After all, I'd hit it.