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The Fourth Obamacare Shock Wave Is About To Reach Us
forbes ^ | 11/16/2013 | Jim Powell

Posted on 11/16/2013 7:43:44 PM PST by tobyhill

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To: tobyhill

Lawyers are expected to do uncompensated pro bono work. In fact firms have to hire someone to handle their uncompensated pro bono work.


61 posted on 11/17/2013 5:20:59 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Kozak
This doctor left the country to practice for at least the next 2 years. Come and get me coppers.....

My doctor just quit the clinic where he worked for the past 8 years and moved to Costa Rica. He told me, "Drop down and see me whenever you like. There are two medical flights daily from Orlando."

62 posted on 11/17/2013 5:24:14 AM PST by N. Theknow (Defund, Abolish, Repeal ObamaCare. You cannot fix stupid. You cannot repair incompetence.)
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To: tobyhill

I dunno, I called my doctor’s office last Monday, the receptionist transferred my call to a nurse. After talking with the nurse for a bit, she set up a doctor’s appointment that afternoon and he sent me to an ophthalmologist the same day. Cost me $20 out of pocket. But I’m sure that ObamaCare™ will improve all that. RomneyCare™ had virtually no impact on people with insurance through work, except that emergency rooms are crowded with even more shiftless layabouts.


63 posted on 11/17/2013 5:49:06 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: tobyhill
Why did they have to make the whole darn thing so convoluted? (Well, we all know why. One is, they wanted the money for one sixth of the US economy running through DC and being managed by thousands of additional federal workers (union members all).

I wish they had taken a clue from the military - pay for doctors, nurses, MA's, EMT's etc. etc. to go to school and receive training. In return they'd give back 3, 4, 5 (?) years of PAID service in free clinics. If the poor want free health care, give it to them. Open clinics nationwide and provide free services there. (And don't allow them to run to the ER unless it's a real "emergency"! After a doctor, nurse, etc. finished with his/her commitment, they'd be free to go into private practice.) At least we wouldn't be worrying about doctors, etc. quitting or never starting to practice in the first place.

A person who works and pays taxes should be given the CHOICE OF buying an insurance plan (of his own choosing) or going to the free clinic. He should be allowed to get in line with the "poor" and get treated for free because HE'S PAYING FOR IT. But he also must have the option of going to a private doctor, who will give him an appointment and who knows he will get paid a fair price from an (evil capitalistic) insurance company!

In our screwed up PC world, you can't distinguish between the poor and the working class. Sh, they might notice they're poor and we can't have that! I don't think progressives will be satisfied until "poverty level" is simply defined as: "not having what rich people have"!

64 posted on 11/17/2013 5:53:08 AM PST by REPANDPROUDOFIT (November can't come soon enough!)
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To: tobyhill

In my perception, one big problem with American healthcare is overuse by hypochondriacs and the bored. A lot of gimme girls run to emergency room for aspirin because they’re bored and lonely and like the attention and company they get in an emergency room. Another problem is people with decent health insurance who run to the doctor for every runny nose.


65 posted on 11/17/2013 5:53:46 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: tobyhill
I volunteer in a hospital ER. There has been no change to the number of people who come in for treatment of insignificant problems that you and I would go to the doctor or Urgent Care for. Can someone show me in Obamacare where it does anything to keep a person from going to the ER for an earache!

Last week a woman brought four children in, all with the chicken pox. After exposing everyone in the ER to their pox, they ran up a bill of approx. $1300 so they could take home some Calamine lotion. Geez, when my kids were small, we didn't even go to the doctor for chicken pox. We knew how to treat them at home.

66 posted on 11/17/2013 5:58:33 AM PST by REPANDPROUDOFIT (November can't come soon enough!)
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To: GeronL

Sir, will that be cash, charge or livestock?


67 posted on 11/17/2013 6:01:39 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Every person should pay SOMETHING every time they see a doctor, get a prescription, rent a (power) wheelchair, etc. Whether they're on MediCaid, MediCare, private insurance or the "freeloaders in the ER plan", make them pay something.

A "poor" person on MediCaid, or a MediCare recipient, might think twice about a drug or a doctor's visit, if they were required to pay $5 for every transaction. There could be a cap of say $100 (20 co-pays). After that amount, the co-pay goes to $2. But, as long as it is "free", there's an open invitation to abuse.

68 posted on 11/17/2013 6:14:25 AM PST by REPANDPROUDOFIT (November can't come soon enough!)
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To: CodeToad
According to the stats, a a fourth of the doctors are foreign, and a third of primary care doctors are foreign.

That would include Americans who attended a foreign medical school but practice in the US(Like the ones Reagan saved when he invaded Grenada). Foreign born who went to medical school in their country then immigrated to the US. Foreign born who immigrate to the US then get their education at a US medical school.

We import a lot of nurses too.

69 posted on 11/17/2013 6:25:55 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: tumblindice

ummmhhhh...pass the hand sanitizer please


70 posted on 11/17/2013 6:36:08 AM PST by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: tobyhill

Obamacare is making the old, dysfunctional, broken healthcare system of the past (last year) look pretty darn good. I’ve been defending American healthcare for years, and the idea that it needed to be completely replaced is as big a lie as the one that people are starving in America. Letting the left frame the issues is our downfall.


71 posted on 11/17/2013 6:46:21 AM PST by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: tumblindice

I have that novel. :)


72 posted on 11/17/2013 6:47:10 AM PST by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: firebrand
They take Medicare patients for one reason only: They refuse to refuse to treat the elderly.

OK can you explain this phrase?

73 posted on 11/17/2013 6:50:03 AM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone you see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: Chode
“Obama’s Socialized Health Insurance Tax”. OSHIT

How about adding just one more word?

"Obama's HUGE Socialized Health Insurance Tax.

OHSHIT.

It is as great a tag as Can't Afford Care Act or CACA. I forget which FReeper posted that, but it's so stolen, too. Both are clever, and accurately descriptive.

74 posted on 11/17/2013 7:13:13 AM PST by Big Giant Head
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To: Big Giant Head
100%!!!
75 posted on 11/17/2013 7:26:40 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: M-cubed

Darn that George Bush!


76 posted on 11/17/2013 7:27:17 AM PST by Red Dog #1
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To: randita

My town had 2 medical practices. Then Obamacare came along. Now we have 1. The owner of the practice was rumored to refuse to comply with the regulations and just closed it’s doors. If this is happening around the country, it’s going to be a disaster at the levels we on FR have always predicted.


77 posted on 11/17/2013 7:28:46 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: tobyhill
India: Here we come!
78 posted on 11/17/2013 7:47:09 AM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: central_va

That’s what she said!

0_o


79 posted on 11/17/2013 8:54:35 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Dutch Boy

Yeah.

Contrary to popular opinion, most doctors are not making millions. Only specialists make the big bucks.

Doctors in family practices make good livings, but they’re not getting rich.

Many can just go fee for service and refuse to take patients they lose money on.

If they’re close to retirement age, they don’t need this crap and may just hang it up and do charity work.

If they haven’t already, it won’t be long before the socialists in Congress try to mandate how doctors run their practices with threat of refusing to renew licenses unless they toe the line.

Young people who want a medical career would be wise to consider the military as an avenue to that rather than go out into this uncertain market with mega loans they may not be able to pay off.


80 posted on 11/17/2013 9:23:57 AM PST by randita
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