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Safety Experts Raise Concern Over Popular Laundry Packs
WSJ ^ | Nov 18, 2013 | Serena Ng

Posted on 11/19/2013 7:25:36 AM PST by NautiNurse

Edited on 11/19/2013 7:34:03 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

The culprit: single-dose detergent capsules that can have a candy-like appearance. In the past year, they were involved in roughly 10,000 cases of exposure involving young children...

Three years ago, officials at an Italian poison-control center in Milan contacted P&G to report that children were biting into small packets of a P&G concentrated liquid detergent called Dash Ecodosi. The Milan officials advised P&G to make the capsules' packaging opaque and harder to open, said Fabrizio Sesana, a toxicologist at the Milan poison center.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: detergent; detergentpods; laundrypacks; poison; safety; tide
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When adults choose to purchase a chemical product because it is pretty, bad things happen.
1 posted on 11/19/2013 7:25:36 AM PST by NautiNurse
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To: NautiNurse
When adults choose to purchase a chemical product because it is pretty, bad things happen.

They aren't purchased because they are pretty, it's because they are convenient and easy to use. If they have children then they need to keep the laundry detergent away from soap loving kids.

2 posted on 11/19/2013 7:29:55 AM PST by Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage (A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five.)
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To: NautiNurse

When adults leave “pretty” chemicals laying around where their children can ingest them, and then leave the children unsupervised, bad things happen.

It’s hardly the fault of the manufacturer.


3 posted on 11/19/2013 7:30:46 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: NautiNurse

Pretty ?? Pretty easy, actually. No measuring, no pouring. Just throw a pack in with the wash.

Adults failing to keep chemicals out of the reach of children is NOT the problem of the manufacturer.


4 posted on 11/19/2013 7:32:07 AM PST by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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To: IronJack

How toxic is a mouthful of nasty-tasting detergent?


5 posted on 11/19/2013 7:33:21 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Salgak

These packs are useful for older children to be able to start a load. The measuring part doesn’t usually go to well...


6 posted on 11/19/2013 7:35:21 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: NautiNurse

What ever happened to parents being RESPONSIBLE? Hello! The children being affected by this are very young children... Last I checked, it was advised that household chemicals be stored where small children cannot get to them.

It makes me wonder if these parents also leave open containers of bleach, rat poison, and ammonia just laying around for their children to play with.

Yes, I wonder why there seems to be a need to add those bright colors to the detergents in those “pods”... and it is to catch customer eyes. BUT - that does not remove all responsibility for parents to be PARENTS...


7 posted on 11/19/2013 7:36:00 AM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: NautiNurse

“The Milan officials advised P&G to make the capsules’ packaging opaque and harder to open...”

Alternatively, someone might remind parents that what goes on in the home is THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.


8 posted on 11/19/2013 7:36:59 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage
They aren't purchased because they are pretty

LOL--adults and children are attracted to bright shiny objects. If the pretty colors didn't sell the product, the manufacturers could save a lot of money by omitting the dyes.

Easy and convenient? As though a scoop is a time consuming and difficult task. Please. You aren't fooling anyone but yourself.

9 posted on 11/19/2013 7:37:03 AM PST by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: lepton

Probably not too horrible if the child’s mouth can be rinsed out fairly soon (assuming the experience doesn’t send him to the faucet quickly to do just that himself). Some minor chemical burns and irritation from the sodium carbonate and enzymes. It’s unlikely to have lasting ill effects.

“Keep out of reach of children” is doubtless on these packages.


10 posted on 11/19/2013 7:40:51 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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11 posted on 11/19/2013 7:41:41 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; lepton
Florida baby dies after ingesting detergent
12 posted on 11/19/2013 7:42:28 AM PST by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: NautiNurse

Depends on kind of washing machine too. Front loaders do will with detergents that are poured. For top loaders, a toss-in tablet will work fine. It’s less mess.


13 posted on 11/19/2013 7:42:38 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: NautiNurse
If you think the government should step in to protect people from themselves.... bad things happen.

/johnny

14 posted on 11/19/2013 7:43:28 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: NautiNurse

There was a time when a liquid detergent was packaged in a container that looked like a milk container.


15 posted on 11/19/2013 7:44:25 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: NautiNurse
Leaving such stuff were children can get to it is more of a problem.

In the US, it's the automatic dishwasher detergent "packaged measures" that are the problem with being attractive for children, not to mention more convenient to be kept under the sink.

An advertising guy told me that when dishwasher detergents went to a thick liquid, manufacturers had problems with consumers managing to eject the stuff into their eyes. Eject as in dropping or placing the open jug down hard, and the container "burping" a blob straight up as they were leaning over it.

16 posted on 11/19/2013 7:46:18 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: NautiNurse

Not saying it NEVER happens. I said unlikely. There are so many factors with small children. Might have been a delayed allergic reaction. And there’s always the mysterious SIDS. I had a weird allergy when young that never recurred when I was older. Kentucky mints supposedly made my chest break out in a rash, yet they never did so again and I kept wondering why my mom was so uptight about my eating them. It says in that article it is the first time such a lethal event was known to have happened in North America and these products have been around a while.

Tragic — we lament even one death — but sensible precautions to protect children don’t require dulling down an adult world.


17 posted on 11/19/2013 7:46:43 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Salgak
Adults failing to keep chemicals out of the reach of children is NOT the problem of the manufacturer.

Don't tell Bloomberg.

I bought a pack to take on vacation this summer. I thought they were great! Just throw one in the washer, no muss, no fuss.

And much cheaper than buyer detergent from the vending machine in the hotel laundry.

18 posted on 11/19/2013 7:49:57 AM PST by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage

When I travel, I use Purex laundry sheets - throw a sheet in the washer and the detergent is released, keep it with the load into the dryer, and the softener is released. And no one is tempted to eat it.


19 posted on 11/19/2013 7:50:55 AM PST by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: JRandomFreeper
If you think the government should step in to protect people from themselves.... bad things happen.

You have assumed incorrectly.

If adults would avoid purchasing potentially deadly products because they were pretty, the market would alter the product.

20 posted on 11/19/2013 7:51:52 AM PST by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: knittnmom

Gold ole American ingenuity at work.

It’s the age old caution. Be careful what you let children get at. It’s known as “parenting.” You DO care about them don’t you?


21 posted on 11/19/2013 7:53:45 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: NautiNurse

And here I always thought that putting a cap/scoop full of detergent in the wash was incredibly convenient.


22 posted on 11/19/2013 7:54:10 AM PST by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: NautiNurse

One death does not a panic make. Children and pretty things have always been a hazard. Teaching children the difference between pretty things that are good and pretty things that are harmful is part of the normal lessons of life. Don’t shuck this off on manufacturers expecting them to create rubber rooms for everyone.


23 posted on 11/19/2013 7:55:17 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I just hope they have no transfats.


24 posted on 11/19/2013 7:56:23 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: TurboZamboni

Saponified transfats are good fabric softeners.


25 posted on 11/19/2013 7:56:49 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: TheBattman
What ever happened to parents being RESPONSIBLE? Hello! The children being affected by this are very young children... Last I checked, it was advised that household chemicals be stored where small children cannot get to them.

But...But...the stated reason for purchasing the product is the immense convenience and ease of use. It would be inconvenient to store the product in a location that required an extra step to reach up, open a cabinet.

26 posted on 11/19/2013 7:58:18 AM PST by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
One death does not a panic make.

How about 14,000 reported poison incidents since 2012?

27 posted on 11/19/2013 8:01:41 AM PST by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: MrB
The measuring part doesn’t usually go to well...

What would make you say that?


28 posted on 11/19/2013 8:02:03 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: NautiNurse

You’re right. Tell me, you wear just black and white clothing, and drive either a black or white car ???

Convenience SELLS. And as for measure-and-pour. . . .I can recall when our preferred brand changed format to a more “compact” format. Daughters STILL poured full cup of detergent from OLD box. . . went through the much-smaller box in about two weeks, was supposed to be ~2 months worth.


29 posted on 11/19/2013 8:03:19 AM PST by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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To: MarineBrat
And here I always thought that putting a cap/scoop full of detergent in the wash was incredibly convenient.

Ha--we need to get with the program.

30 posted on 11/19/2013 8:05:41 AM PST by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: NautiNurse

That’s all poison incidents involving laundry products? Or this particular form of a laundry product? Be honest here.

The lesson to be taken is, Keep poisons reasonably out of reach of children. Trying to create an over sanitized world actually robs children of life lessons they need to know. They will not always have nannies, and as soon as they are old enough to begin knowing that no that lemon ammonia isn’t lemonade, they should be taught this.


31 posted on 11/19/2013 8:07:34 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Salgak
Daughters STILL poured full cup of detergent from OLD box

You need to get a smaller cup. :o)

32 posted on 11/19/2013 8:07:50 AM PST by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: NautiNurse

The program is called making life more handy for people.

With many blessings come dangers of misusing them.

We are not excused from teaching our children bad from good.


33 posted on 11/19/2013 8:08:31 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: NautiNurse

This is 100% the fault of ignorant parents.

I’ve used this product and like it a lot. No measuring, no muss, no fuss. Toss the packet in the machine and you’re done. Super simple.


34 posted on 11/19/2013 8:08:49 AM PST by upchuck (I can't stand people that don't know the difference between 'your' and 'you're.' Their so stupid...)
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To: NautiNurse
The culprit: single-dose detergent capsules that can have a candy-like appearance. In the past year, they were involved in roughly 10,000 cases of exposure involving young children...

Exposure to soap? So. I'm thinking the worst case scenario is a kid chewing on one and getting a mouth full of soap, which they are highly unlikely to consume, unless P&G made it taste like chocolate syrup.

Only a very stupid child would do it twice.

35 posted on 11/19/2013 8:09:47 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
That’s all poison incidents involving laundry products? Or this particular form of a laundry product? Be honest here.

Let me guess--reading the article would be too inconvenient?

36 posted on 11/19/2013 8:12:24 AM PST by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: SampleMan

Also it is very common practice to add “bittering agents” (like “denatonium chloride”) to products that have historically had the most accidents, to limit the amount that might be ingested.

We do children more harm in the long run by creating unrealistic rubber rooms. Do accommodate the inabilities of infants and watch what you let them get near. But as soon as a toddler can know that a product should be treated with respect (I could toss laundry tablets into the washer without wanting to eat them) that toddler should be taught!

We are all in a spiritual war zone here and the war is intended to end up victorious if we don’t just chicken out and cower in a corner. Teaching bad from good is part of this. Elementary, our dear Watsons?


37 posted on 11/19/2013 8:13:12 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: NautiNurse

What’s the big deal? Note they said “exposure” as opposed to sickness or death. It’s probably not all that toxic, and no doubt tastes like crap. Try one once, learn that it’s not candy, and be none the worse for wear.


38 posted on 11/19/2013 8:13:46 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: NautiNurse

Let me guess — justifying your snottiness is worth more than a civil conversation?


39 posted on 11/19/2013 8:13:51 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Still Thinking

Ohhhhhhhh but ONE died! ONE died! And we KNOW that it had to have been the tablet that killed him, even though he seemed to be better and doctors expected no problem!

(Hey, SIDS sometimes happens. Though I hope an autopsy was performed.)


40 posted on 11/19/2013 8:15:29 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You are directing me to be honest about an article that you haven’t read. That makes me snotty? ROFLMAO!


41 posted on 11/19/2013 8:17:43 AM PST by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: SampleMan

I was once forced to take a mouthful of soap to clean out my dirty mouth.

It didn’t kill me, or even make me sick.


42 posted on 11/19/2013 8:22:52 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: NautiNurse

The WSJ requires you to register and log in to read that article, and it looks like you have to pay them $12 to do that.

So don’t go around flaming people for not wanting to do that.


43 posted on 11/19/2013 8:28:49 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; NautiNurse
That’s all poison incidents involving laundry products? Or this particular form of a laundry product? Be honest here.

Even if 20 million kids found the laundry detergent packets and ate them and died, it's not the manufacturer's fault when parents fail in keeping harmful stuff away from kids. If the manufacturers were at fault, then what next? Banning of knives?

44 posted on 11/19/2013 8:32:27 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: NautiNurse

We HAD a smaller cup. Humans are creatures of habit (grin)


45 posted on 11/19/2013 8:38:32 AM PST by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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To: Night Hides Not
I bought a pack to take on vacation this summer.

What's new is old. I remember ads for a laundry detergent called "Salvo".

46 posted on 11/19/2013 8:58:36 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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Banning of knives?

Knives are 'arms' under the Second Amendment. They can't be banned.

/johnny

47 posted on 11/19/2013 9:10:21 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

What about a stainless steel ruler? Is it an “arm”?


48 posted on 11/19/2013 9:11:08 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: James C. Bennett
An argument could be made for that.

/johnny

49 posted on 11/19/2013 9:12:16 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Calvin Locke

I don’t recall Salvo having a fabric softener with it.


50 posted on 11/19/2013 9:12:27 AM PST by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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