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Safety Experts Raise Concern Over Popular Laundry Packs
WSJ ^ | Nov 18, 2013 | Serena Ng

Posted on 11/19/2013 7:25:36 AM PST by NautiNurse

Edited on 11/19/2013 7:34:03 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

The culprit: single-dose detergent capsules that can have a candy-like appearance. In the past year, they were involved in roughly 10,000 cases of exposure involving young children...

Three years ago, officials at an Italian poison-control center in Milan contacted P&G to report that children were biting into small packets of a P&G concentrated liquid detergent called Dash Ecodosi. The Milan officials advised P&G to make the capsules' packaging opaque and harder to open, said Fabrizio Sesana, a toxicologist at the Milan poison center.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: detergent; detergentpods; laundrypacks; poison; safety; tide
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To: JRandomFreeper

An argument can be made for calling a piece of string, a knife.


51 posted on 11/19/2013 9:13:28 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Many decades ago when I was maybe 10, a schoolmate’s smaller sister got under the sink and downed some Dran-O....from what I recall, she was going to have life-long, bigtime problems.


52 posted on 11/19/2013 9:17:44 AM PST by ErnBatavia (The 0baMao Experiment: Abject Failure)
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To: NautiNurse

“Easy and convenient? As though a scoop is a time consuming and difficult task. Please. You aren’t fooling anyone but yourself”

Sorry. Have to agree with “Mountain Bike Vomit”. I use them because they are convenient, easy, and much cleaner in the laundry room cabinet than liquid or powder. No liquid running down the bottle and staining my cabinet, so messy powder every where to poison my dogs who live in the laundry room when we’re away.

So, GHEEZ, stop being so judgemental. You do your dirty laundry the way you want to and we’ll do ours the way we want to.


53 posted on 11/19/2013 9:30:24 AM PST by No Socialist
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To: NautiNurse

Thanks. That was a baby...which may not have been developed enough to associate taste and response, and appears to have been the only known death. Wholly irresponsible to leave that in the basket with the baby. Not really the same, but apparently it can be fatal - at least if a baby eats an entire one.


54 posted on 11/19/2013 9:45:53 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Night Hides Not
Well, from a marketing POV, you don't want to cannibalize other lines for no good reason sooner than you have to.

I would assume that it was filling a niche for P&G.

55 posted on 11/19/2013 9:47:25 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Fresh Wind

Only once?


56 posted on 11/19/2013 10:07:39 AM PST by cyclotic (Hey BSA-I'm gone. Walk Worthy-traillifeusa.com)
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To: James C. Bennett

You can’t ban knives. My two sons would have nothing to put on their Christmas lists.

Both have pretty extensive collections. Somewhere around 40 each. The early ones were junk but in the last couple years, they’ve discovered Gerber, Kabar and all the other good ones.


57 posted on 11/19/2013 10:10:42 AM PST by cyclotic (Hey BSA-I'm gone. Walk Worthy-traillifeusa.com)
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To: lepton

Unpleasant? Sure. Toxic? Probably not, especially if the tyke is smart enough to spit it out when it tastes that bad. He might have a severe case of the poops for a day or two but it likely will not kill him.


58 posted on 11/19/2013 10:20:44 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: NautiNurse

How many of those “poison incidents” were fatal?


59 posted on 11/19/2013 10:25:51 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: James C. Bennett

No, a stainless steel ruler is most likely [wait for it ...] a FOOT!

Thanks. I’m here all week.


60 posted on 11/19/2013 10:30:58 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: ErnBatavia

Draino is hydrochloric acid. Very destructive to tissue. Detergents are mostly surfactants, chemicals that reduce the surface tension of water. They have little effect on human tissue, although they may remove some of the protective oils from skin.

No comparison.


61 posted on 11/19/2013 10:36:16 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: NautiNurse
If adults would avoid purchasing potentially deadly products because they were pretty, the market would alter the product.

Wow, continuing with a bad assumption doesn't necessarily make it true. Recall "If you like your plan..."? you are doingt eh same thing. People don't buy them because they are pretty, hell, you can't even see the product when you buy it. People buy them because they are convenient and effective for the intended job. Enough with the "pretty" stupidity.

62 posted on 11/19/2013 10:42:35 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (I'm not a gynecologist, but I'll take a look.)
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To: SampleMan
Only a very stupid child would do it twice.

And that's one that'll definitely grow up voting Dumbascrap and spawn even more D's, so you can't really say a little laundry soap in the gene pool is a drawback in his case.

63 posted on 11/19/2013 11:17:22 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: cyclotic

Get them a Kukri, each.

:^)


64 posted on 11/19/2013 11:23:04 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: IronJack

Lol


65 posted on 11/19/2013 11:23:58 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: NautiNurse

do you seriously object to these pods? i found them to be a wonderful thing to get for my son who does his laundry at college. No muss, no fuss. storing and scooping laundry detergent is a hassle, i use these exclusively and find it ludicrous that any child would mistake it for candy. i had zero trouble keeping toxic substances from my kids when they were little, i don’t see why this is any different.


66 posted on 11/19/2013 11:26:54 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: NautiNurse

Your honesty doesn’t depend on my repeating details that you already know.


67 posted on 11/19/2013 11:36:07 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: xsmommy; NautiNurse

The full article is now behind a subscribe-wall for WSJ.

All I see from the excerpt is something that says 10,000 “exposure incidents.” Nothing about 14,000 which is what the nurse claims. OK, exposed... how? Some kid fingered one and got it on his skin? That sounds more plausible. And why aren’t parents stepping up to their responsibility? Why should we nanny nurse everyone into a sanitized Teflon lined room because parents won’t do what God told them to do? This is FREE Republic, not NANNY “for the chilrun” Republic. Let’s besiege PARENTS with messages to watch out for their kids and not try to defang every danger in the world!!


68 posted on 11/19/2013 11:42:14 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: xsmommy; NautiNurse

And... sigh... I really do think the Nurse means well.

But we have a practicality problem here. Suppose Nurse got her super safe detergent packets. 1 danger down, 10,000 more to go?

When addressing PARENTS would be far more efficient in helping the “chilrun”?

By almighty heaven, YES! Let’s advertise it to the liberals! WATCH OUT FOR YOUR KIDS! IT’S FOR THE CHILRUN!

Makes sense, no?


69 posted on 11/19/2013 11:49:44 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: xsmommy; NautiNurse

And before you laugh at “well that’s obvious”

The trouble with the liberal spell of evil from hell (hey that rhymes) is that it makes the obvious, no longer so. It discombobulates the mind.

The antidote is truth. Ya know, speak the truth in love?

Yep, we really need to tell those careless parents that it’s for the children. It might dawn on them that hey, here’s a great idea! And one conservative ideal has been championed with minimal pain.


70 posted on 11/19/2013 11:52:56 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: cyclotic
Only once?

Well, yeah, only once for that particular punishment. Heh, heh.

71 posted on 11/19/2013 1:29:40 PM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: stylecouncilor

ping


72 posted on 11/19/2013 2:45:12 PM PST by windcliff
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To: xsmommy
The first pretty and colorful item I noticed a couple of years ago was dishwasher detergent. Saw it in a tv ad, and we wondered aloud how many children would get into cabinets under the sink and go for it. The Tide pods are pretty and colorful too. Just sayin'. Adults and children like bright and shiny objects.


73 posted on 11/19/2013 2:57:40 PM PST by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: Travis T. OJustice
People don't buy them because they are pretty, hell, you can't even see the product when you buy it.

Original packaging resembled candy jars. See photos above. The article describes that the incidence of reported child poison exposure in Italy dropped 60% when the packaging was changed to eliminate visible pods. Without government intervention, P&G changed the packaging in the U.S. this year.

74 posted on 11/19/2013 3:34:01 PM PST by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: NautiNurse

Sorry, I think demonizing people who want convenient products is ridiculous. Parents of small children routinely childproof and prevent access to harmful substances and always have. Irresponsible parents don’t, and if it wasn’t detergent pods, it would be something else. Should we go back to wash boards and bars of fels naphtha soap to save the children.


75 posted on 11/19/2013 4:13:12 PM PST by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy

And I remember when my folks didn’t even do that much. I was kept in the playpen when not being directly watched or babysat (babysitters? remember those? and just about any teen was trustworthy?). Until I knew what the word POISON was supposed to mean. “It’ll kill you.” Enough said, I did not go poking into it, and if I ever touched it I’d be washing it off lickety split.

Lets hector the PARENTS, not the manufacturers.


76 posted on 11/19/2013 4:18:18 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: NautiNurse

And in a way, the risk of lawsuits spurred the move. Nobody had to write yet another piece of silly legislation.

And so fine. However launching jihads on what to your own confession sounds like what is now a non-problem, sounds a little ODD, shall I say, Ms. NN?


77 posted on 11/19/2013 4:21:14 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: NautiNurse

And! By the way. The lawsuit system may seem a red carpet for greed at times, but it HAS managed to keep the already huge number of government regulations from getting even huger. The principle becomes, don’t do what you’re likely to get sued over. Rather than a bureaucrat-drafted regulation which then gives the defense attorneys in such a suit a reason to argue that oh, the government covered that risk, so your suit is out of luck.


78 posted on 11/19/2013 4:26:23 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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